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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:52 PM
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76. Then you're deliberately misreading my post, and attempting to "pick a fight." I said nary a word
about Obama criticizing or not criticizing "bankers." That was all a big, massive Straw-man of your own making. What I pointed out was that, unlike you and I, he has to choose his words carefully in public settings, being the President of the United States and all, or, say, face the consequences of the market panicking the next day, among other unpleasant consequences. If you disagree with that, then you're not living in the real world.

But this was never about Obama or bankers or the market: you simply, like a significant minority of posters lately, are mad about something, and invented a debate with another poster who wasn't even taking the other side of argument you are basically having with yourself. Please go find someone else's time to waste, thanks. :thumbsup:
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  -Cynthia Tucker: Obama squandered his Oval Office moment Bluebear  Jun-15-10 09:03 PM   #0 
  - Corporatism  bahrbearian   Jun-15-10 09:08 PM   #1 
  - Agreed. I think BP is getting some backroom deal on this one.  Xenotime   Jun-16-10 08:51 AM   #62 
  - Who is Cynthia Tucker?  jaxx   Jun-15-10 09:09 PM   #2 
  - The Atlanta Journal Constitution's political columnist. Biography for you:  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 09:10 PM   #3 
  - Does that make her opinion gospel?  jaxx   Jun-15-10 09:13 PM   #10 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-15-10 09:14 PM   #11 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-15-10 09:16 PM   #12 
     - odd  William Z. Foster   Jun-15-10 09:18 PM   #13 
     - Odd, indeed. Of course, that would explain why our elected representatives feel so free to ignore us  scarletwoman   Jun-15-10 09:29 PM   #20 
     - so well said. we're supposed to be above the "down with intoohlucktools" crowd.  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 09:29 PM   #21 
     - Well said. nt  Lorien   Jun-16-10 01:11 PM   #73 
     - No, Obama is God. His life is the Gospel. nt  newtothegame   Jun-16-10 04:19 PM   #79 
     - You show that strawman who's boss!  Ignis   Jun-16-10 04:28 PM   #81 
     - No but it is respected.  saracat   Jun-16-10 08:21 PM   #86 
     - nobody said her opinion is gospel  northernlights   Jun-16-10 08:24 PM   #87 
     - Does opinion have to be gospel to be relevant?  tekisui   Jun-17-10 09:00 AM   #95 
  - Exactly, and who gives a shit what she thinks?  treestar   Jun-15-10 09:49 PM   #32 
  - Interesting choice of metaphor...  LooseWilly   Jun-15-10 10:50 PM   #45 
  - And Jon Stewart, don't forget.  donco6   Jun-16-10 07:54 AM   #57 
     - Robert Reich is the latest on the big list 'o heretics 'n apostates. n/t  QC   Jun-16-10 08:53 AM   #64 
        - And is Krugman a saint or scumbag this week? I get whiplash keeping track...  JHB   Jun-16-10 09:05 PM   #92 
           - I can never keep up with Krugman's status, given how it changes from moment to moment.  QC   Jun-17-10 08:59 AM   #94 
  - Who are you? n/t  QC   Jun-16-10 08:54 AM   #65 
  - Obama could have pulled gold bars from his ass and a crew here would criticize it.  KonaKane   Jun-15-10 09:10 PM   #4 
  - Sorry, KonaKane, Cynthia Tucker isn't on "a crew here".  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 09:11 PM   #7 
  - You're more hung up on craigslist than anyone I have seen here.  KonaKane   Jun-15-10 09:44 PM   #29 
     - Accolytes, oh how brainy. We're not worthy.  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 10:46 PM   #43 
  - No, Obama pulled corporate shit from his ass.  provis99   Jun-15-10 09:21 PM   #14 
  - Cynthia Tucker and her "crew" here are just haterrz  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 09:25 PM   #16 
  - Pray, tell. Which was his worst speech, then, if not this one?  Laelth   Jun-15-10 09:23 PM   #15 
  - whaaaaaaaa? they're all A+++++++++!!  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 09:32 PM   #22 
     - Exactly. Crickets from the poster above. n/t  Laelth   Jun-15-10 09:37 PM   #25 
     - Ha! Are you allowed to quote another poster? Careful.....nt  Captain Hilts   Jun-16-10 08:56 PM   #90 
  - And he could pour oil in the gulf on national TV in primetime  dgibby   Jun-15-10 09:53 PM   #34 
  - It's only a year and a half into his presidency. You can't possibly expect him to stop pouring oil!  jgraz   Jun-15-10 10:06 PM   #37 
  - LOL!  Hardrada   Jun-16-10 01:23 PM   #75 
  - Oh so you'd rather have Sarah Palin pouring the oil?  walldude   Jun-16-10 05:40 PM   #83 
  - When Obama pulls gold bars from his ass, I vow to applaud the performance.  LooseWilly   Jun-15-10 09:55 PM   #35 
  - If that wasn't his worst speech from the Oval Office  XemaSab   Jun-16-10 01:12 AM   #48 
     - I think it was his first speech  leftynyc   Jun-16-10 07:58 AM   #58 
  - Yet another lost opportunity.  jgraz   Jun-15-10 09:10 PM   #5 
  - +1. n/t  me b zola   Jun-15-10 09:33 PM   #23 
  - Touche!  Carolina   Jun-15-10 09:39 PM   #27 
  - Yes sir. Its all gift wrapped and ready for the taking, and he shrinks. - nt  Poboy   Jun-15-10 10:17 PM   #41 
  - and then he went all god on me  Yuugal   Jun-15-10 09:11 PM   #6 
  - This is a pattern with the Obama administration.  mix   Jun-15-10 09:12 PM   #8 
  - The crisis is ongoing and hasn't been "wasted" -- not yet. But tonight's speech was.  highplainsdem   Jun-15-10 09:12 PM   #9 
  - How do you "waste" a crisis?  apocalypsehow   Jun-15-10 09:27 PM   #17 
  - I did not get that phrase either. Really what strikes me initially...  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 09:28 PM   #18 
  - I agree 100% - you nailed it. I couldn't put my finger on it till you elucidated it, but you're  apocalypsehow   Jun-15-10 09:42 PM   #28 
  - Exactly. This speech is 1 month overdue, and what should have been said  Poboy   Jun-16-10 01:05 AM   #47 
  - My thoughts exactly  XemaSab   Jun-16-10 01:14 AM   #49 
  - Rahm: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," NOVEMBER 21, 2008  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 09:34 PM   #24 
  - Thanks for the link. It lends context to the column posted by the OP.  apocalypsehow   Jun-15-10 09:47 PM   #30 
     - heheh -- i remember being starry-eyed in my youth.  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 10:06 PM   #36 
     - I remember being starry-eyed last year  XemaSab   Jun-16-10 01:16 AM   #51 
     - Think of it as using an opportunity  Hydra   Jun-16-10 12:00 AM   #46 
  - wouldn't want to "panic the market," now, would we? when it's Goldman Sachs vs the Gulf, no brainer  amborin   Jun-16-10 01:25 AM   #52 
     - That kinda really wasn't my point....as much as you and I might not like it, President Obama has  apocalypsehow   Jun-16-10 03:18 AM   #54 
     - i think i've thought it through  amborin   Jun-16-10 10:14 AM   #67 
        - Then you're deliberately misreading my post, and attempting to "pick a fight." I said nary a word  apocalypsehow   Jun-16-10 01:52 PM   #76 
     - BP Hires Goldman Sachs  Poboy   Jun-16-10 07:51 AM   #56 
        - If BP hired Goldman Sachs, it is to get advice on...  bvar22   Jun-16-10 08:53 PM   #88 
  - I guess its over now..  butterfly77   Jun-15-10 09:28 PM   #19 
  - No, just to Cynthia Tucker, she's part of my "crew" here you're always talking about.  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 09:37 PM   #26 
  - at some point it's going to dawn on you guys that it's not about the *speeches* it's the (in)action  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 09:48 PM   #31 
  - Like what? Putting on a cod piece and flying a jet into the Gulf airspace?  KonaKane   Jun-15-10 09:51 PM   #33 
     - Captain Straw Man strikes again!!!!!  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 10:07 PM   #38 
        - Hey, you can't blame folks for wanting to have their little erotic fantasies.  scarletwoman   Jun-15-10 10:10 PM   #39 
           - that's what GD-P is for -- there should be a "you must be 18" to enter  nashville_brook   Jun-15-10 10:14 PM   #40 
              - Sometimes it's like walking in on a slumber party over there.  QC   Jun-16-10 09:21 AM   #66 
  - It is for some people who live in the gulf.  walldude   Jun-16-10 05:44 PM   #84 
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  - ---  Bluebear   Jun-15-10 10:47 PM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-16-10 01:16 AM   #50 
  - And.....It took EIGHT WEEKS for an Oval Office speech!  democrat2thecore   Jun-16-10 01:49 AM   #53 
  - What a load of crap  bluestateguy   Jun-16-10 03:32 AM   #55 
  - Being prepared for higher electric bills  eilen   Jun-16-10 08:26 AM   #59 
  - Was she watching a different speech?  Radical Activist   Jun-16-10 08:30 AM   #60 
  - Not effective enough, its never enough  immune   Jun-16-10 11:00 AM   #68 
     - A lot of progressives like dramatic pandering.  Radical Activist   Jun-16-10 02:09 PM   #77 
        - Misappropriation of Che Guevara's image (nt)  whatchamacallit   Jun-16-10 03:34 PM   #78 
           - Che was a man of action  Radical Activist   Jun-16-10 04:25 PM   #80 
  - do you just google "obama speech bad" to come up with this crap?  dionysus   Jun-16-10 08:49 AM   #61 
  - Do you always turn it on the DUer?  tekisui   Jun-17-10 09:02 AM   #97 
  - Cynthia Tucker never really loved him!  QC   Jun-16-10 08:52 AM   #63 
  - She means he didn't make the Carter energy speech.  cliffordu   Jun-16-10 11:02 AM   #69 
  - Regardless of the fact that selfish jackasses elected Regan, Carter was right. n/t  Raineyb   Jun-16-10 11:16 AM   #71 
  - I started riding a bike after that speech.  cliffordu   Jun-16-10 11:42 AM   #72 
  - History proved him right and had Reagan not fucked up his policies  walldude   Jun-16-10 05:46 PM   #85 
  - I think the Iran Hostage Crisis did more to kick Carter under than his energy speech.  Selatius   Jun-16-10 01:20 PM   #74 
     - Yep.  cliffordu   Jun-16-10 05:37 PM   #82 
     - BINGO. Go to the head of the class. nt  Captain Hilts   Jun-16-10 08:57 PM   #91 
     - Yep. And even then he didn't really tank until the Desert 1 fiasco...  JHB   Jun-17-10 06:21 AM   #93 
  - "The president has wasted a crisis."  ProSense   Jun-16-10 11:08 AM   #70 
  - Should have set up a specific fund to aid Gulf marine life. People want to help. And aren't being  Captain Hilts   Jun-16-10 08:54 PM   #89 
     - +1. Look at how much Americans helped after Haiti Quake. n/t  Statistical   Jun-17-10 09:01 AM   #96 
 

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