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Mon Jun-14-10 03:07 PM
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| 39. There ya go again. Unbelievable. I get it .Stop playing the contest. |
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Race isn't more important than sexism. And this thread isn't about comparison.
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| -Don’t Pat Yourself on the Back Yet: The Plight of Women in the U.S. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-13-10 11:34 PM |
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K&R!! |
Kitty Herder |
Jun-13-10 11:53 PM |
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Thank you for this. This is a remarkable piece ! |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 12:45 AM |
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Wow, thank you so much for this. Now I am totally depressed. But I know |
LiberalLoner |
Jun-14-10 12:56 AM |
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KandR |
Dystopian |
Jun-14-10 01:30 AM |
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About Women and Health: |
Betty Karlson |
Jun-14-10 02:19 AM |
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K & R |
canetoad |
Jun-14-10 02:23 AM |
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K&R |
Book Lover |
Jun-14-10 02:36 AM |
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MRA? nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-14-10 11:23 AM |
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MRA = Men's Rights Advocates |
Caliman73 |
Jun-14-10 11:52 AM |
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That's correct (nm) |
Book Lover |
Jun-14-10 12:26 PM |
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no wonder I didn't get that... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-14-10 12:29 PM |
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they're heeeeeeere see #22 n/t |
Scout |
Jun-14-10 01:21 PM |
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Then perhaps you could rebut those points. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-14-10 02:30 PM |
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Oh, I saw |
Book Lover |
Jun-14-10 08:59 PM |
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The best part of these threads |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:40 AM |
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You have failed to mention the provocation for Randi Rhode's vulgar remarks. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 05:09 AM |
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The old "she asked for it" or "she made me do it" |
cornermouse |
Jun-14-10 06:27 AM |
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Well, Something Else There |
iamjoy |
Jun-14-10 08:01 AM |
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I disagree |
Caliman73 |
Jun-14-10 12:16 PM |
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Agree that the term "whore" has become gender-neutral . . . in the main ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-14-10 03:32 PM |
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"They started it!!!" |
Cerridwen |
Jun-14-10 08:37 AM |
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Nonsense. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 01:34 PM |
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"in case you're unaware of it"... |
Greyhound |
Jun-14-10 03:54 PM |
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Actually it's a psych term that has no particular ideological origin nor political connotation |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 04:03 PM |
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Pitting sexism against racism and expecting anyone to make a "choice" is vile. |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 11:42 AM |
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Nobody's interested in the "oppression sweepstakes," just the truth. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 01:52 PM |
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Then why enter the sweepstakes? Using opinions about another campaign to justify |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 02:53 PM |
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"Hillary Struggles Against Sexism But Regularly Plays Race Card" |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 03:01 PM |
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There ya go again. Unbelievable. I get it .Stop playing the contest. |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 03:07 PM |
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It's about accountability; you demand it but refuse to give it. Your outrage is selective. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 03:14 PM |
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The topic is feminism. |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 03:27 PM |
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It's a diatribe on sexism with Hillary as the victim and a blind eye to her race-baiting campaign. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 03:38 PM |
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Yawn. She is the SOS now, did you hear? |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 03:40 PM |
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She is SOS because Pres. Obama is a gracious feminist. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 03:43 PM |
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Thanks for attempting to get back on topic. |
saracat |
Jun-14-10 03:54 PM |
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LOL. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 04:07 PM |
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Angela Davis "Women, Race and Class" should be required reading in school. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-14-10 04:24 PM |
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If racism was the provocation, Randi's remarks |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jun-14-10 06:24 PM |
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It was; I was there. It was at a club here in SF on behalf of 960 Green. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-14-10 10:33 PM |
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K. &. R. |
cornermouse |
Jun-14-10 06:25 AM |
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A very robust k & r to you McCamy! We have our work cut out for us! |
CTyankee |
Jun-14-10 07:06 AM |
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another big with the emotion and raising of girls. the ego. we are taught to coddle, protect the |
seabeyond |
Jun-14-10 07:40 AM |
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And may I also recommend... |
planetc |
Jun-14-10 07:48 AM |
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"Feminism is anti-dominionation of anyone by anyone else" ... Marilyn French |
defendandprotect |
Jun-14-10 03:34 PM |
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k&r |
noamnety |
Jun-14-10 08:11 AM |
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Kick, Recommend and BRAVA!!!!!!! |
Cerridwen |
Jun-14-10 08:27 AM |
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This is one of the best posts I have read on DU in a while. |
Greybnk48 |
Jun-14-10 08:50 AM |
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K&R Thank you for this. Extremely well done. /nt |
Spheric |
Jun-14-10 10:26 AM |
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I don't have enough time to post on this excellent OP but have to K&R! nt |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-14-10 10:54 AM |
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k&r |
LWolf |
Jun-14-10 11:07 AM |
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Point by point |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-14-10 11:12 AM |
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Men are victims of men. Women are the victims of...men. Just as we raise our daughters to have low |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-14-10 04:31 PM |
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I don't dispute that patriarchal attitudes hurt. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-14-10 05:18 PM |
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"The only kind of violence with which we should be concerned..." |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 09:40 AM |
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The person to whom I was replying |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 09:59 AM |
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I don't see how that implies that the victim is less important. |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 10:03 AM |
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Had the OP been about perpetrators |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:13 AM |
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The OP is about women. |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 10:15 AM |
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Is "no, that's misleading" a threadjack? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:23 AM |
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What exactly in the OP was inaccurate? |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 10:28 AM |
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For one: |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:35 AM |
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So it's not inaccurate, you just wanted to add a disclaimer. |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 10:42 AM |
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I concede your point. I said "inaccurate" when I should have said "deliberately misleading". n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:45 AM |
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It's not misleading. It's factual. |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 10:46 AM |
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So if I post an OP about "the plight of men in the US" |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:48 AM |
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if you had a thread on problems men are having, i would consider, and interact |
seabeyond |
Jun-16-10 07:56 AM |
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Including calling bullshit if you thought it was justified. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-16-10 10:49 AM |
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Hypothetical: If a woman raises her son to be a bully, and he beats me up, am I "oppressing myself" |
Romulox |
Jun-15-10 09:49 AM |
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The insurance issue would've been more persuasive if they had discussed car insurance. nt |
Romulox |
Jun-15-10 09:50 AM |
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Yes. But persuasive of the opposite point. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:05 AM |
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Right. But any good writing acknowledges and deals with concessions. |
Romulox |
Jun-15-10 11:38 AM |
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Name removed |
Jun-15-10 04:23 PM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Jun-14-10 11:18 AM |
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Actually, women are on the verge of outnumbering men in the workforce: |
Lorien |
Jun-14-10 01:06 PM |
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at 60% of the pay. |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jun-14-10 09:33 PM |
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Bravo! |
JustAnotherGen |
Jun-14-10 01:13 PM |
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700k to 2 million less a year? |
Alcibiades |
Jun-14-10 10:11 PM |
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BIGGEST POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION! |
Greyhound |
Jun-14-10 01:59 PM |
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K&R -- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-14-10 03:27 PM |
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K&R |
Odin2005 |
Jun-14-10 03:55 PM |
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Thank you for the post... |
Juneboarder |
Jun-14-10 03:59 PM |
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gotta run, no time to comment, but... K&R. THANKS Mcamy Taylor. |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Jun-14-10 04:20 PM |
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Now I feel depressed.......... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jun-14-10 05:16 PM |
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BINGO! |
cleverusername |
Jun-14-10 08:14 PM |
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kick. nicely put together |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jun-14-10 08:16 PM |
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And the lawyers who could challenge those who commit violence against |
JDPriestly |
Jun-14-10 09:04 PM |
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You Lie! |
Alcibiades |
Jun-14-10 10:24 PM |
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The Atlantic is trying to sell copy. I'm trying to tell the truth. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-14-10 10:31 PM |
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It's a bizarre read |
Alcibiades |
Jun-14-10 10:41 PM |
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"more cause for celebration than despair". what men really dont get... more than |
seabeyond |
Jun-14-10 10:35 PM |
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Don't forget working people in general |
Alcibiades |
Jun-14-10 11:18 PM |
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Somewhat hyperbolic, but still a good read. Thanks. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 09:36 AM |
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lol @ "somewhat" (nt) |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 09:40 AM |
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*shrug* The point of writing is to engage the reader. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:15 AM |
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Obviously. Sensationalism rules, rational thought be damned. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jun-15-10 10:21 AM |
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Heh. Funny. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-10 10:28 AM |
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K&R |
Beacool |
Jun-15-10 12:09 AM |
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More please. |
Greyhound |
Jun-15-10 01:27 PM |
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Try Feminism 101 |
cleverusername |
Jun-15-10 03:14 PM |
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"By 15, girls are twice as likely to become depressed than boys." |
redqueen |
Jun-16-10 07:41 AM |
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In your opinion, why are teen boys 4x as likely to commit suicide? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-16-10 10:56 AM |
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It's 3x. Probably because they're not allowed to feel emotions because it's too feminine to do so. |
redqueen |
Jun-16-10 11:01 AM |
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It's 3.93 times. By most math, that rounds to "four". |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-16-10 12:32 PM |
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kicking |
AsahinaKimi |
Jun-16-10 07:52 AM |
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