freddie mertz
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Thu Jun-10-10 11:04 AM
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| 30. It is not the ACLU's JOB to be "happy." It is to advocate for for civil liberties. |
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Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 11:05 AM by freddie mertz
REGARDLESS of which party is in power.
Which is a good and useful thing.
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| -ACLU chief "disgusted" with Obama's policies on civil liberties and National Security |
Wandawilkerson |
Jun-10-10 10:41 AM |
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According to Politico...nt |
SidDithers |
Jun-10-10 10:42 AM |
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And according to Firedoglake |
Wandawilkerson |
Jun-10-10 10:43 AM |
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See, the problem here is that you are believing your lying eyes... |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 10:50 AM |
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self-delete duplicate n/t |
Wandawilkerson |
Jun-10-10 10:43 AM |
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Politico is not expressing its opinion, but rather it is repeating what Romero |
JDPriestly |
Jun-11-10 10:51 AM |
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ACLU also was in favor of "free speech" in campaigns. |
Jennicut |
Jun-10-10 10:43 AM |
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In regard to the issues cited by Romero, do you take the ACLU position or the Obama position? |
Wandawilkerson |
Jun-10-10 10:45 AM |
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Gitmo is not closing unless we have a place to put the people |
Jennicut |
Jun-10-10 10:48 AM |
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they could ship them to the Bagra 'secret prison' |
G_j |
Jun-10-10 10:54 AM |
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Many Senators would prefer that, actually. |
Jennicut |
Jun-10-10 11:00 AM |
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Do you like blocking lawsuits filed by torture victims |
Drops_not_Dope |
Jun-11-10 10:24 AM |
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But real "leadership " could take care of that problem. I find it really hypocritical when anything |
saracat |
Jun-10-10 03:33 PM |
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That's what I think |
Bullet1987 |
Jun-11-10 07:28 AM |
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Leadership is and always has been the question |
sui generis |
Jun-11-10 09:42 AM |
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Recommend. Nt |
xchrom |
Jun-10-10 10:44 AM |
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The ACLU: proud defenders of... |
bluestateguy |
Jun-10-10 10:45 AM |
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I was wondering how long it would take to trash the ACLU |
nichomachus |
Jun-10-10 10:47 AM |
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Can we get a thread where the ACLU and Unions get trashed at once |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 10:48 AM |
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Running 2 under the bus for the price of 1? Well that is change I believe in! |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 10:55 AM |
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I am not a neoliberal. |
Jennicut |
Jun-10-10 10:57 AM |
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huh? come again? |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 11:02 AM |
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Of course it is |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:02 AM |
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+1 |
The Northerner |
Jun-11-10 05:49 AM |
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ROFL!! Would save a lot of time! nt |
laughingliberal |
Jun-10-10 11:04 AM |
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Seems to be a "hot new trend" among a certain breed of (so-called) Democrats. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:07 AM |
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This is what happens when the opposition party goes insane |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:08 AM |
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I think that's right. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:11 AM |
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I think we go into hiding like the Jedi |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:13 AM |
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That is just hilarious! |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:18 AM |
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I get to be Yoda |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:19 AM |
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Then you would get to live too, at least till the earlier, better film cycle! |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:24 AM |
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So... |
kenfrequed |
Jun-11-10 09:51 AM |
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Dupe. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:11 AM |
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Or perhaps it was an Ewok |
pinboy3niner |
Jun-10-10 11:57 AM |
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Good Lord, I certainly hope not! |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 02:33 PM |
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The Democratic frog march to the right is the opposite of what the country needs |
niceypoo |
Jun-11-10 09:46 AM |
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you forgot the progressives and "far leftists" |
madrchsod |
Jun-10-10 11:40 AM |
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No that is every other |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:43 AM |
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Well, duh... if it weren't for those evil leftists that do not have any significant position of powe |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 09:51 PM |
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lol |
madfloridian |
Jun-10-10 11:42 AM |
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Shocking |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:46 AM |
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Good - it stands as an indictment to the poster. Shows more about them than it does about us. nt |
glitch |
Jun-10-10 11:56 AM |
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Sexist and belittling to boot, eh? |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 02:34 PM |
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Well, two birds with one stone... that's pretty fiscally responsible |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 09:54 PM |
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oh hell.."little bitches" is tame compared to what we over age 50 were called in the campaign. |
flyarm |
Jun-11-10 07:57 AM |
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of course it is still standing..the grown ups don't alert on every post that doesn't agree with them |
flyarm |
Jun-11-10 08:01 AM |
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Done! |
snake in the grass |
Jun-10-10 02:18 PM |
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You bet correctly! |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 02:36 PM |
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Like lightning! |
snake in the grass |
Jun-10-10 02:46 PM |
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Maybe if you called all of us "little bitches," it could have stayed open. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 02:51 PM |
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I'll keep that in mind. |
snake in the grass |
Jun-10-10 02:55 PM |
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That was good |
bahrbearian |
Jun-11-10 05:43 AM |
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I too hate that 'sarcasm' tag... |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-11-10 10:05 AM |
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I heard the ACLU is a union shop! |
Dr.Phool |
Jun-10-10 02:46 PM |
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Free speech sucks |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 10:47 AM |
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In these instances, you are correct. |
Jennicut |
Jun-10-10 10:49 AM |
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No they are not |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 10:50 AM |
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Right, because people you don't like shouldn't have civil rights. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jun-10-10 10:52 AM |
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I would just appreciate it if the above mentioned clients of the ACLU would say thank you |
bluestateguy |
Jun-10-10 12:13 PM |
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You really don't understand this principle thing |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 12:53 PM |
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I understand that. But you don't defend civil rights for the thank you. |
EFerrari |
Jun-10-10 01:19 PM |
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Come on civil rights for every American? Now you are being "unrealistic!" |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 10:00 PM |
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The ACLU only concerns itself with the bill of rights |
niceypoo |
Jun-11-10 09:54 AM |
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Does that make you a "useless idiot"? |
Jokerman |
Jun-10-10 12:07 PM |
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Wow, you are too dumb to be a liberal. You don't GET the purpose of the ACLU. |
KansasVoter |
Jun-10-10 02:38 PM |
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another guy who just does not fucking get it |
Skittles |
Jun-10-10 03:36 PM |
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The First Amendment applies to bastards and fools as much as it does to saints and saviors. |
Selatius |
Jun-10-10 03:37 PM |
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la la la... |
Zix |
Jun-10-10 04:45 PM |
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Proud defenders of the Constitution, even when it's inconvenient. |
Smashcut |
Jun-10-10 05:43 PM |
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Rights are tricky in that way; everybody actually has them, whether you like... |
Tesha |
Jun-10-10 05:49 PM |
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Anything to comment on the policies or story, or just ACLU-bashing here? |
Bluebear |
Jun-10-10 07:16 PM |
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I know that as a faithful supporter of the Democratic Party this is almost alien to you, |
Greyhound |
Jun-10-10 07:27 PM |
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Civil rights aren't just for people you like ... |
GOTV |
Jun-11-10 05:28 AM |
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What is your point? That freedom of speech shouldn't be for everybody? nt |
Chef Eric |
Jun-11-10 05:39 AM |
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And don't forget their support for Citizen's United vs FEC in the Supreme Court. |
amb123 |
Jun-11-10 07:46 AM |
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Oh fer god's sake...It's called the American CIVIL LIBERTIES Union.. |
truth2power |
Jun-11-10 09:13 AM |
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All in the context of protecting the bill of rights |
niceypoo |
Jun-11-10 09:43 AM |
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"If there has been change in the civil liberties context, I frankly don't see it." |
Lerkfish |
Jun-10-10 10:53 AM |
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I dare the ACLU detractors in this thread |
G_j |
Jun-10-10 10:58 AM |
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Oh, please don't dare them. It is waaay too early for the harvest of red herring that will ensue! |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 11:01 AM |
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i predict crickets. nt. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:08 AM |
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Romero never really loved him! |
QC |
Jun-10-10 10:53 AM |
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Maybe he had a reason -- not everyone was busy waving the pompoms |
nichomachus |
Jun-10-10 10:56 AM |
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He wants human rights? What is next a pony? |
liberation |
Jun-10-10 10:58 AM |
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Has the ACLU ever been happy with a President? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-10-10 11:01 AM |
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Given our Presidents in my lifetime |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 11:03 AM |
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That was my thought. Who was the last President who gave them reason to be happy? |
laughingliberal |
Jun-10-10 11:11 AM |
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Under Palin, ACLU would BE in Guantanamo! nt |
pinboy3niner |
Jun-10-10 12:00 PM |
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LOL! nt. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 02:39 PM |
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There haven't been ANY pResidents who gave a crap about Civil Liberties while in office... |
ProudDad |
Jun-11-10 10:45 AM |
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It is not the ACLU's JOB to be "happy." It is to advocate for for civil liberties. |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:04 AM |
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I'm not saying that it is their job. |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-10-10 11:08 AM |
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Maybe if the admin. had made some real progress in civil liberties... |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 11:10 AM |
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That killed that exchange. |
Bluebear |
Jun-10-10 07:16 PM |
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Unsuprising... |
Moochy |
Jun-11-10 09:34 AM |
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Are you happy with torture victims having their lawsuits blocked |
Wandawilkerson |
Jun-10-10 11:12 AM |
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Yes, they're just a bunch of impossible-to-please cranks. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-10-10 11:34 PM |
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Leave Obama alone!!! |
Moochy |
Jun-11-10 09:34 AM |
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They never really loved him! |
QC |
Jun-11-10 10:58 AM |
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So are a lot of people on the left. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-10-10 11:07 AM |
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"I made the point that expectations were high " |
ProSense |
Jun-10-10 01:44 PM |
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Thanks for chiming in |
AllentownJake |
Jun-10-10 02:33 PM |
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How long is too long? What is the sell-by date for civil liberties? |
freddie mertz |
Jun-10-10 02:38 PM |
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I was going to ask a similar question |
kenfrequed |
Jun-11-10 09:36 AM |
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he's only 36 months into his second term and he hasn't fixed everything.. |
frylock |
Jun-10-10 03:35 PM |
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No, he's 36 months into his 1st term |
ProudDad |
Jun-11-10 10:47 AM |
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well, considering that is roughly a third of his presidency... |
Lerkfish |
Jun-10-10 03:37 PM |
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But, but... |
niceypoo |
Jun-11-10 10:03 AM |
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What, no blue links?! |
Smashcut |
Jun-10-10 05:48 PM |
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Smashcut |
Jun-10-10 05:48 PM |
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K/R |
Echo In Light |
Jun-10-10 02:34 PM |
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Shame they supported the Corporate takeover of America. |
mzmolly |
Jun-10-10 02:55 PM |
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The ACLU's job is to defend rights... |
ProudDad |
Jun-11-10 10:53 AM |
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Ah "Dad" |
mzmolly |
Jun-11-10 11:39 AM |
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K&R |
dorkulon |
Jun-10-10 03:00 PM |
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Great line. I concur. |
mmonk |
Jun-10-10 10:30 PM |
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join the crowd |
Skittles |
Jun-10-10 03:36 PM |
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I was just revisitng the archives-- the GIGS of documentation on |
chill_wind |
Jun-10-10 04:02 PM |
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The continuance/ratification of so many of junior's wholly corrupt far-RW PNAC |
indepat |
Jun-10-10 07:15 PM |
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Kick and shame on the ACLU bashers here. |
Bluebear |
Jun-10-10 08:13 PM |
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This story is suspect from the outset. It is being fired from the Propaganda Cannon, aka Politico. |
Stinky The Clown |
Jun-10-10 08:15 PM |
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Here's WSJ and Congress.org |
Bluebear |
Jun-10-10 08:17 PM |
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The WSJ article goes back to Politico |
Stinky The Clown |
Jun-10-10 10:22 PM |
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So what, are you suggesting Romero didn't say those things? |
dorkulon |
Jun-11-10 09:55 AM |
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K & R For The Truth (nt) |
Dinger |
Jun-10-10 08:19 PM |
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So am I. He has some time to turn it around before he loses my vote |
seaglass |
Jun-10-10 08:29 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-10-10 10:02 PM |
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k |
Wilms |
Jun-11-10 12:32 AM |
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K&+R |
Senator |
Jun-11-10 02:08 AM |
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K & R |
democrank |
Jun-11-10 04:44 AM |
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k&r |
mikita |
Jun-11-10 05:39 AM |
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I love the ACLU. |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-11-10 07:52 AM |
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Yep, ACLU defends rights, Obama defends privilege... (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Jun-11-10 10:57 AM |
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knr |
defendandprotect |
Jun-11-10 09:25 AM |
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Disgusted is an appropriate word. |
pundaint |
Jun-11-10 12:06 PM |
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