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You told me why it's a stupid idea, which I already agreed with.
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| - Standing Up for Helen Thomas - By Robert Parry |
kpete |
Jun-08-10 10:33 AM |
#0 |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Jun-08-10 10:35 AM |
#1 |
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So True |
liberalmike27 |
Jun-09-10 01:27 AM |
#131 |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Jun-08-10 10:37 AM |
#2 |
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K&R |
Whisp |
Jun-08-10 10:38 AM |
#3 |
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Excellent article |
malaise |
Jun-08-10 10:41 AM |
#4 |
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Parry is another treasure. K&R |
EFerrari |
Jun-08-10 10:42 AM |
#5 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-08-10 10:48 AM |
#9 |
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That bias continues here too n/t |
n2doc |
Jun-08-10 10:42 AM |
#6 |
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Right and IMO in large part because there is too little real discussion of |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 05:40 PM |
#46 |
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Yes, we provide some aid to Gaza |
BlueMTexpat |
Jun-09-10 02:18 AM |
#133 |
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The collective censorship on this issue is astonishing and frightening - whether it's DU or the |
chimpymustgo |
Jun-09-10 09:00 AM |
#144 |
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The collective censorship on this issue is astonishing and frightening - whether it's DU or the |
chimpymustgo |
Jun-09-10 09:00 AM |
#145 |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Jun-08-10 10:43 AM |
#7 |
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K&R nt |
City Lights |
Jun-08-10 10:47 AM |
#8 |
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Thanks |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jun-08-10 10:49 AM |
#10 |
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I saw Frank Sesno on CNN -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jun-08-10 10:50 AM |
#11 |
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If her views were "very well known to everyone".... |
MicaelS |
Jun-08-10 11:25 AM |
#12 |
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Are we going to start attacking people for their privately held views now? |
EFerrari |
Jun-08-10 11:32 AM |
#14 |
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Yes we are..... |
MicaelS |
Jun-08-10 12:22 PM |
#21 |
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Right. The distinction I was making is between public and private. |
EFerrari |
Jun-08-10 12:53 PM |
#22 |
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Think you're onto a big discussion there . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 05:56 PM |
#51 |
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Except that Helen Thomas is a public figure, and not a supposed family member of an anonymous poster |
liberation |
Jun-08-10 04:17 PM |
#32 |
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Because perhaps there is nothing worth outing? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-08-10 03:58 PM |
#31 |
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The problem is not that she thinks the Israelis "are not always right." |
Chef Eric |
Jun-08-10 09:13 PM |
#84 |
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"She implied" - Is that so? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-09-10 12:32 AM |
#124 |
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If she was talking about Jews in West Bank/Gaza, why did she say they should go to Germany/Poland? |
Chef Eric |
Jun-09-10 05:32 AM |
#139 |
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There's only one answer you want to hear and want to accept |
Chulanowa |
Jun-09-10 07:23 AM |
#141 |
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Boy, you just LOVE to tell me what I am really hearing, really thinking, really saying. |
Chef Eric |
Jun-09-10 08:28 AM |
#142 |
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And I have a problem with what you are suggesting and implying |
Chulanowa |
Jun-09-10 02:42 PM |
#166 |
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She thinks that the state of Israel was a mistake, and I agree... |
modestybl |
Jun-08-10 11:34 PM |
#116 |
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She was talking about the inequality between them |
nightgaunt |
Jun-14-10 06:25 PM |
#189 |
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Thought the questioning of her in that video was a bit odd on reflection..... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 05:50 PM |
#49 |
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We'll never hear from anyone else |
Chulanowa |
Jun-09-10 03:28 PM |
#170 |
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K&R |
Carolina |
Jun-08-10 11:31 AM |
#13 |
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Good to hear intelligent and brave colleagues speaking up |
Laughing Mirror |
Jun-08-10 11:41 AM |
#15 |
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And there you have it |
Catherina |
Jun-08-10 11:46 AM |
#16 |
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The Disconnect... |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-08-10 11:50 AM |
#17 |
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Ari Fleischer, propagandist for war crimiinals, |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-08-10 07:47 PM |
#75 |
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Low, low POS. n/t |
Peregrine Took |
Jun-08-10 08:27 PM |
#80 |
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Well said. |
BrklynLiberal |
Jun-08-10 09:59 PM |
#94 |
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kr+45 |
inna |
Jun-08-10 11:51 AM |
#18 |
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K&R |
uppityperson |
Jun-08-10 12:20 PM |
#19 |
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Thank you Robert Parry.... |
blm |
Jun-08-10 12:21 PM |
#20 |
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Thank you Robert Parry -- one of the last of the genuine journalists. |
glitch |
Jun-08-10 12:54 PM |
#23 |
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K&R /nt |
Spheric |
Jun-08-10 02:07 PM |
#24 |
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Criticize Israel?! |
jacksprat |
Jun-08-10 02:10 PM |
#25 |
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How is not anti-semitic to say that the Jews should "go back to Germany and Poland"? nt |
Chef Eric |
Jun-08-10 09:23 PM |
#86 |
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Reverse that question. How *is* it anti-semitic? |
Recursion |
Jun-08-10 10:21 PM |
#98 |
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There has been a continuous Jewish presence in that land for thousands of years. |
Chef Eric |
Jun-08-10 10:57 PM |
#109 |
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But are the israelis jews of today from the holy land? |
German |
Jun-09-10 02:42 AM |
#136 |
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Yes, they are. DNA evidence has debunked the "Khazar" theory. |
Chef Eric |
Jun-09-10 05:20 AM |
#138 |
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Not the Khazar shit again. |
cali |
Jun-13-10 08:32 AM |
#186 |
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Umm.. no you didn't |
Recursion |
Jun-09-10 06:42 AM |
#140 |
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She didn't just say "Germany and Poland." She said "Germany, Poland, the United States" |
stranger81 |
Jun-09-10 11:58 AM |
#151 |
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Tell all the damn pundits (both R & D) I support Helen .... |
orbitalman |
Jun-08-10 03:43 PM |
#26 |
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You'd think she murdered 9 people in international waters, the way people reacted. |
Mugweed |
Jun-08-10 03:51 PM |
#27 |
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You would, wouldn't you? |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-09-10 02:24 AM |
#135 |
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K&R |
MissDeeds |
Jun-08-10 03:52 PM |
#28 |
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K & R. n/t |
chill_wind |
Jun-08-10 03:56 PM |
#29 |
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Helen Thomas was way, way out of line. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-10 03:58 PM |
# |
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Suffering is suffering whether you are a Jew or a Palestinian -- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 06:31 PM |
#56 |
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Did the US take in Jews threatened by Hitler? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-10 07:05 PM |
#65 |
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Turkey did take in German jews threatened by Hitler before the holocaust... |
cascadiance |
Jun-08-10 09:34 PM |
#91 |
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Thanks for that and . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:07 PM |
#96 |
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Wow, I wasn't aware that the "Z" word was a bad word. |
cascadiance |
Jun-08-10 10:22 PM |
#99 |
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As far as I'm aware . . . think it says that in the I/P forum . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:54 PM |
#107 |
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The problem is not with the word "Zionist." The problem is that so few people know what it means. |
Chef Eric |
Jun-08-10 11:17 PM |
#110 |
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I was under that impression to though, where Zionism implies the structure of the government... |
cascadiance |
Jun-08-10 11:36 PM |
#117 |
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Certainly, the situation where Israel is an "occupier" over the state of Palestine .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 01:49 PM |
#158 |
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The question was the USE of the word in DU forums . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 12:13 PM |
#155 |
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"...a right to their own homeland." |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jun-09-10 12:20 PM |
#156 |
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Turkey would have done precisely the same thing as the Israelis did |
JDPriestly |
Jun-09-10 12:45 AM |
#126 |
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Speculation on your part. And the line was not there in INTERNATIONAL WATERS... |
cascadiance |
Jun-09-10 01:02 AM |
#129 |
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You are probably too young to remember the Turkish-Cypriot conflict. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-09-10 02:21 AM |
#134 |
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Too young? I probably knew more people DIRECTLY involved in that than you did! |
cascadiance |
Jun-09-10 02:52 PM |
#168 |
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US turned away a boatload of Jews trying to excape Germany ... forced to return... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:02 PM |
#95 |
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that is a significantly biased view of WW2 |
B Whale |
Jun-09-10 08:06 PM |
#174 |
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If you look at the map, you will note that the largest part of Transjordan |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-10 07:10 PM |
#66 |
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Does this suggest to you somehow .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:14 PM |
#97 |
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The Palestinians have a homeland. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-09-10 12:43 AM |
#125 |
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Evidently, we're all talking about the need for a "State of Palestine" .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 12:06 PM |
#153 |
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NBC news did a segment tonight on "Growing Up Behind the Blockade in Gaza" |
dflprincess |
Jun-08-10 09:25 PM |
#87 |
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Nothing for me to feel proud of in Obama's failure to criticize Israel |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:23 PM |
#100 |
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Best reply on this thread! |
earth mom |
Jun-08-10 11:26 PM |
#111 |
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One of the few posts on this subject that really "gets it". |
WileEcoyote |
Jun-08-10 07:17 PM |
#68 |
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That analogy isn't quite right. |
dorkulon |
Jun-08-10 08:33 PM |
#81 |
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Israel is no victim here. |
Raineyb |
Jun-09-10 09:15 AM |
#146 |
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Besides US backing with money and weapons -- !!! Palestine has no military ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 01:52 PM |
#159 |
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Helen Thomas was way, way out of line. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-10 03:58 PM |
#30 |
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She should do all that... |
liberation |
Jun-08-10 04:23 PM |
#33 |
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Lolz... |
here_is_to_hope |
Jun-08-10 04:27 PM |
#34 |
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"Suggesting that the Jews in Israel go back ... |
AlbertCat |
Jun-08-10 05:50 PM |
#48 |
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Yis there any other european country? .....why yes |
B Whale |
Jun-08-10 06:24 PM |
#54 |
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What European country did not persecute Jews for centuries? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-10 06:40 PM |
#59 |
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You have to understand that the basis of that ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 06:45 PM |
#61 |
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I understand that very well. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-08-10 06:56 PM |
#64 |
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Jews are immigrating to Germany - More Jews in Germany now that pre-WWII... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 09:33 PM |
#90 |
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hey hey easy. You asked a question, is there |
B Whale |
Jun-08-10 06:56 PM |
#63 |
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Apparently some people figure WWII is a carte blanche for them to be racist |
liberation |
Jun-08-10 08:10 PM |
#78 |
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Nice post . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:28 PM |
#103 |
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I lived in France. There are many Jews there. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-09-10 12:50 AM |
#128 |
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Dupe |
liberation |
Jun-09-10 11:48 AM |
#149 |
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What is your definition of "safe?" |
liberation |
Jun-09-10 11:48 AM |
#150 |
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you have a screwed view of europe and european people |
B Whale |
Jun-09-10 08:13 PM |
#175 |
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One of the great prime ministers in Austria was Jewish, but believe m |
JDPriestly |
Jun-10-10 03:01 AM |
#177 |
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i would take your point about austria. i do believe austria has |
B Whale |
Jun-11-10 05:39 AM |
#182 |
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Yes, you're correct . .. |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 09:40 PM |
#92 |
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Not all European people are anti-Jewish. But I lived there, |
JDPriestly |
Jun-09-10 12:47 AM |
#127 |
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it impossible for Jewish people to live there and feel secure. |
AlbertCat |
Jun-09-10 09:51 AM |
#148 |
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And I lived in Europe too, and had plenty of Jewish friends who lived there all their lives |
liberation |
Jun-09-10 11:58 AM |
#152 |
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Denmark deserves more credit than a "maybe" |
dflprincess |
Jun-08-10 09:05 PM |
#83 |
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That is a very disingenuous question. |
liberation |
Jun-09-10 12:11 PM |
#154 |
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Evidently, Israeli Jews are returning to Germany and Israel isn't happy about that ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 01:58 PM |
#160 |
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Please see my post . . . here . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 09:31 PM |
#89 |
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No Ashkenazim means no need for settlements |
Recursion |
Jun-08-10 10:24 PM |
#101 |
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Negotiated Peace would require that the Israelis give up on expanding their territories |
NorthCarolina |
Jun-08-10 04:46 PM |
#37 |
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'And I suggest that any of you who' - ? |
Bluebear |
Jun-08-10 05:36 PM |
#45 |
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I didn't know the United States was a European country. |
Lilith Velkor |
Jun-08-10 06:30 PM |
#55 |
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That's crap |
ilaughatrightwingers |
Jun-08-10 11:34 PM |
#115 |
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so where are the homelands for gypsies, homosexuals, political dissidents, and others? |
tomp |
Jun-09-10 08:34 AM |
#143 |
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+1000% |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 01:59 PM |
#161 |
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Strongly recommended. |
avaistheone1 |
Jun-08-10 04:39 PM |
#35 |
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How come the media never slams the Right? |
freeperhuntersRus |
Jun-08-10 04:46 PM |
#36 |
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it must be all that "liberal bias" or something... |
liberation |
Jun-08-10 04:49 PM |
#38 |
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K & R |
Dinger |
Jun-08-10 05:17 PM |
#39 |
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Very good |
Safya |
Jun-08-10 05:19 PM |
#40 |
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Turn on your own to spare Israel.....always.... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jun-08-10 05:19 PM |
#41 |
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K&R |
Owl |
Jun-08-10 05:21 PM |
#42 |
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In the passion of the moment it is easy to say what we are feeling |
eagertolearn |
Jun-08-10 05:23 PM |
#43 |
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What I see is a lot of support from the corporate MIC and then the lemming journalists follow.... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 05:35 PM |
#44 |
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K&R |
RetroLounge |
Jun-08-10 05:45 PM |
#47 |
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K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-08-10 05:51 PM |
#50 |
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k/r. the hypocrites. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-08-10 05:59 PM |
#52 |
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K&R -- Thank you, Robert Parry. Thanks Kpete for posting this. I support Helen Thomas |
scarletwoman |
Jun-08-10 06:17 PM |
#53 |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Jun-08-10 06:31 PM |
#57 |
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kick and recommend!! |
Douglas Carpenter |
Jun-08-10 06:37 PM |
#58 |
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here's a cheer for Ms. Thomas. |
branders seine |
Jun-08-10 06:41 PM |
#60 |
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One must wonder if Mr. Parry would be so quick to leap to Thomas' defense... |
proteus_lives |
Jun-08-10 06:51 PM |
#62 |
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I wonder if you would be so quick to condemn Helen Thomas if she went after |
Raineyb |
Jun-08-10 10:46 PM |
#106 |
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Yes, I would. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-08-10 11:44 PM |
#119 |
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Robert Parry, another of the few real journalists left in this |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-08-10 07:15 PM |
#67 |
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she was a journalist they were more than happy to get rid of. |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-08-10 07:37 PM |
#72 |
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Good post, I think your view is shared by a majority of decent people. |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-08-10 10:28 PM |
#104 |
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Thank you, sabrina 1, it's nice to see someone else have decency about this issue. |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-08-10 11:31 PM |
#112 |
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Amy Goodman would be one guess for "next" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 10:38 PM |
#105 |
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sadly, you're spot on. she's fantastic. God protect her/good vibes! |
Divine Discontent |
Jun-08-10 11:32 PM |
#114 |
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UIA loves her some Robert Parry |
UpInArms |
Jun-08-10 07:30 PM |
#69 |
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So glad to see this post from Robert Parry defending Helen Thomas! |
KoKo |
Jun-08-10 07:33 PM |
#70 |
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Howard Kurtz sucks. Big Time. |
Owl |
Jun-08-10 07:36 PM |
#71 |
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I thank Robert Parry for standing up for Helen. |
bleever |
Jun-08-10 07:38 PM |
#73 |
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K&R |
pleah |
Jun-08-10 07:39 PM |
#74 |
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I am glad that someone is articulate enough to write for Helen |
kgnu_fan |
Jun-08-10 07:48 PM |
#76 |
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Helen needs all the people standing up for that she can muster. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jun-08-10 07:54 PM |
#77 |
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Isn't she entitled to her opinion, even if some view it as not "PC?" |
Peregrine Took |
Jun-08-10 08:24 PM |
#79 |
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This was rotten, indeed. |
Proud_Lefty |
Jun-08-10 08:39 PM |
#82 |
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Why does most everyone including Parry mention Thomas' Lebanese background |
snagglepuss |
Jun-08-10 09:14 PM |
#85 |
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Here's some info I'm surprised at... Jews are immigrating to Germany . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-08-10 09:27 PM |
#88 |
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Some are taking German citizenship... |
Karenina |
Jun-13-10 08:23 AM |
#184 |
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Excellent article. I stand with Helen Thomas. |
BrklynLiberal |
Jun-08-10 09:55 PM |
#93 |
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F*ck the |
femrap |
Jun-08-10 10:26 PM |
#102 |
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Really??? |
CL455W4R |
Jun-08-10 10:56 PM |
#108 |
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Cause the Aliens controlling DU will melt your brain and feed it to oil companies |
HEyHEY |
Jun-08-10 11:39 PM |
#118 |
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The blinding cataracts need to be removed from your eyes. |
ooglymoogly |
Jun-09-10 01:11 AM |
#130 |
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Because |
femrap |
Jun-09-10 12:58 PM |
#157 |
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Check the specific rules posted at "I/P" . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 02:03 PM |
#163 |
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Apologies to CL455W4R. I meant my above post for another poster |
ooglymoogly |
Jun-09-10 03:01 PM |
#169 |
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Hypocrisy |
ilaughatrightwingers |
Jun-08-10 11:32 PM |
#113 |
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I will forever stand with Helen Thomas..the Queen of truth! eom |
flyarm |
Jun-09-10 12:04 AM |
#120 |
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Sorry, her remark was simply common sense resolution, but what is the acceptable alternative? |
earcandle |
Jun-09-10 12:06 AM |
#121 |
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I stand with Helen...without the reservations of this post. |
ooglymoogly |
Jun-09-10 12:23 AM |
#122 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-09-10 12:26 AM |
#123 |
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What is Sensible Cities? |
avaistheone1 |
Jun-09-10 02:13 AM |
#132 |
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Why all the hate? |
genorp |
Jun-09-10 04:44 AM |
#137 |
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Absolute bullshit excuse making. |
Raineyb |
Jun-09-10 09:23 AM |
#147 |
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Thank you for making my point |
genorp |
Jun-09-10 02:00 PM |
#162 |
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Bravo . . .!! Thank you -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 02:07 PM |
#165 |
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Minus 1000% -- Too much wrong with that post to get into . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 02:05 PM |
#164 |
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So much for real discussion: |
LTX |
Jun-09-10 02:43 PM |
#167 |
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Yes, I am arguing for more honest discussion of "I/P" affairs . . . but not in the dungeon... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 03:35 PM |
#171 |
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The legality of the blockade: |
LTX |
Jun-09-10 04:57 PM |
#173 |
| -
UN find the blockade of Gaza "illegal" . . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jun-09-10 09:14 PM |
#176 |
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Navi Pillay's report is not a UN finding of illegality |
LTX |
Jun-10-10 09:48 AM |
#178 |
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"U.N. Human Rights Chief: Israel's Blockade of Gaza Strip Is Illegal" -- no rambling there ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-10-10 01:06 PM |
#179 |
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As I said, Pillay's report is not a UN finding of illegality: |
LTX |
Jun-10-10 02:49 PM |
#180 |
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As I've mentioned ... for the second time now ... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-10-10 10:43 PM |
#181 |
| -
I see: |
LTX |
Jun-11-10 08:59 AM |
#183 |
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Parry and Thomas stood up to Rev Moon, Bush and the rest of the Washington Mafia. |
Octafish |
Jun-09-10 04:15 PM |
#172 |
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Kicked (nt) |
Dinger |
Jun-13-10 08:24 AM |
#185 |
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Kick |
Better Believe It |
Jun-13-10 08:33 AM |
#187 |
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Kick |
Spazito |
Jun-13-10 10:16 AM |
#188 |
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