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| 115. Another WSJ article blaming YOUNG WORKERS, and DUers pissing all over themselves to agree. |
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They don't get paid enough to live away from home. This is the answer. It has nothing to do with greed or selfishness or immaturity. It has to do with making $200 a week without benefits and having to pay back student loans.
Young workers are workers, too. And it's high time we stopped bashing them and starting standing with them against WALL STREET JOURNAL slander and corporate assault.
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| -Daddy's Little Money Pits - adult children on family dole |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jun-06-10 05:24 PM |
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Student loan debt causes a lot of this |
bluestateguy |
Jun-06-10 05:29 PM |
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as does the lack of any decent jobs. |
Hempathy |
Jun-06-10 05:48 PM |
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Mommy and Daddy spoiling their little kiddies does it too...... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jun-06-10 06:20 PM |
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For most of them, yes. |
closeupready |
Jun-07-10 02:49 PM |
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Most parents throughout history have helped their children in the transition |
karynnj |
Jun-08-10 10:11 AM |
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fuck that noise. i have loan payments too but i don't mooch off of the folks. |
dionysus |
Jun-07-10 08:18 PM |
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you have a generation that has the idea they are entitled to everything, and they shouldn't have to |
Donnachaidh |
Jun-06-10 05:31 PM |
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There are plenty of adult children who genuinely need extra help, and then there |
Dappleganger |
Jun-06-10 05:36 PM |
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Exactly. |
ParkieDem |
Jun-07-10 02:47 PM |
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My parents bought us the Hybrid we drive |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-07-10 08:21 PM |
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Excellent |
jazzelle |
Jun-08-10 07:09 PM |
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Best post I've seen in a month. |
kayakjohnny |
Jun-06-10 05:38 PM |
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Yeah, but soon the Boomers will all be in homes. |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 05:47 PM |
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hah thanks a lot Im not going to a 'home'. Ill jump off a cliff first |
Mari333 |
Jun-07-10 07:07 AM |
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I guess the plight of the middle class is unchanged except for the cost of a latte. |
Wilms |
Jun-06-10 05:52 PM |
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100% correct |
malaise |
Jun-06-10 05:52 PM |
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Sounds just like my sister. |
GoCubsGo |
Jun-06-10 07:28 PM |
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I'll never understand it |
malaise |
Jun-06-10 09:37 PM |
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Different times |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 10:25 PM |
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As my daughter gets ready to become a senior in HS |
Goblinmonger |
Jun-07-10 08:16 PM |
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When I was in HS |
TheCentepedeShoes |
Jun-08-10 07:23 PM |
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Exactly.................. |
Darth_Kitten |
Jun-06-10 06:23 PM |
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Nah |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 09:47 PM |
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Doesn't your username mean "spirit of self-reliance"? |
JanMichael |
Jun-06-10 10:27 PM |
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It also means megalomanical dictator |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 10:45 PM |
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True. But the self reliance part, while maybe badly attempted, is still a part. |
JanMichael |
Jun-06-10 10:54 PM |
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My name pick wasn't about korean natural resource independence |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 11:02 PM |
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Nice broadbrush there. I'm 19 (soon to be 20) and I am not like that. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-06-10 07:19 PM |
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Hmm, I don't think you're who we're referencing here. |
Dappleganger |
Jun-06-10 07:33 PM |
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Well when people use terms like "generation" I feel somewhat attacked. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-06-10 07:37 PM |
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I'm sorry that you do... |
Dappleganger |
Jun-06-10 07:43 PM |
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I don't think they're the exception |
fishwax |
Jun-06-10 11:22 PM |
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You are an exception. A good exception. |
JanMichael |
Jun-06-10 10:22 PM |
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So then you admit that there irresponsible ones in your generation? |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jun-08-10 10:26 AM |
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"kid's today" - - -pfaw |
annabanana |
Jun-06-10 07:45 PM |
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Don't forget the wisdom of Paul Lynde: |
PassingFair |
Jun-06-10 10:17 PM |
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Name removed |
Jun-06-10 10:02 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jun-06-10 11:20 PM |
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Calvinist Christianity. "Wealth is a sign of being God's Elect". |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 11:23 PM |
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Is it these members of this generation that are constantly blaming the baby boomers for |
DeschutesRiver |
Jun-07-10 11:52 AM |
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That's exactly right. Look at Williamsburg in Brooklyn. There you go. |
closeupready |
Jun-07-10 02:49 PM |
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i'll agree with you for once. |
dionysus |
Jun-07-10 08:18 PM |
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Well the 'lifestyle' choice for my son |
xxqqqzme |
Jun-09-10 09:46 AM |
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When one generation grows old it attacks the younger one. |
Tutankhamun |
Jun-09-10 11:27 AM |
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With attitudes like that I can see why 50+ workers no longer get hired. |
tranche |
Jun-09-10 11:33 AM |
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Self Delete |
lolly |
Jun-09-10 04:52 PM |
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Texas Christian University is notorious for underperforming leisure class kids. |
TexasObserver |
Jun-06-10 05:45 PM |
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not exactly a lot of jobs out there. |
dembotoz |
Jun-06-10 05:50 PM |
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I think about how I was financially independent starting at 18, in the 70's |
Skittles |
Jun-06-10 06:04 PM |
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I landed a good paying union job at a grocery store when I was 19. |
CrispyQ |
Jun-06-10 06:22 PM |
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heck, I made it without even union protection |
Skittles |
Jun-06-10 06:51 PM |
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Sounds like my fiance's son. |
blueamy66 |
Jun-07-10 02:56 PM |
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this is one area where "poor" families actually have an edge |
SoCalDem |
Jun-06-10 05:56 PM |
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Time for mommy and daddy to cut the cord already. |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-06-10 06:03 PM |
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I hate threads where people blame individuals for structural problems. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-10 06:08 PM |
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Bingo, Mom. |
Wilms |
Jun-06-10 06:15 PM |
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Word |
XemaSab |
Jun-06-10 06:28 PM |
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Thank you! NT |
SocialistLez |
Jun-06-10 07:21 PM |
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Thank you! That's the most sensible reply that I've read. n/t |
proudohioan |
Jun-06-10 08:01 PM |
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It's typical "why don't they have a job?" BS that comes out every recession. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 10:06 PM |
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Another +1 |
leftstreet |
Jun-06-10 11:20 PM |
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. |
fishwax |
Jun-06-10 11:25 PM |
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I suspect too many have Republicans for parents |
opihimoimoi |
Jun-06-10 06:08 PM |
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Pooling resources is good. Shared responsibility is good. Exploitation is not. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-06-10 06:10 PM |
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So if there are no jobs for them to take |
treestar |
Jun-06-10 06:21 PM |
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SSSHHHH!! We need to blame the young people for shit that has nothing to w/ them. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-06-10 07:22 PM |
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Yes, the lazy young people |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 09:53 PM |
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It shows how much we have been brainwashed with Hate-The-Poor propaganda. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 10:07 PM |
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Surely there was a class in Bootstrap Management at Texas Christian University |
arcadian |
Jun-06-10 06:33 PM |
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It's funny, all the outrage over how *other people* conduct their family relationships. |
nomorenomore08 |
Jun-06-10 06:39 PM |
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Wall Street Journal |
malletgirl02 |
Jun-06-10 07:24 PM |
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And therein lies the irony... |
nomorenomore08 |
Jun-06-10 07:25 PM |
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+100. and if said jet-set kids *do* want to work, they always can, always for a respectable wage - |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-06-10 08:22 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. |
JNelson6563 |
Jun-08-10 09:35 AM |
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We have a society trying to have it both ways |
The2ndWheel |
Jun-06-10 06:55 PM |
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Agreed. But you have to include the "Get off my lawn!" factor as well. |
nomorenomore08 |
Jun-06-10 07:21 PM |
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Well if you aren't paying rent for that lawn you're on, pay up or get off. |
closeupready |
Jun-07-10 03:03 PM |
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Neither of our kids are financially secure (daughter is 47, son 44) |
tularetom |
Jun-06-10 07:15 PM |
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Those are entirely different circumstances. |
Dappleganger |
Jun-06-10 07:40 PM |
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I have seen this plenty |
NNN0LHI |
Jun-06-10 07:18 PM |
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It would help if there were jobs for them to go to |
AllentownJake |
Jun-06-10 07:21 PM |
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I could understand this youth punching bag session if there were plenty of jobs out there. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-06-10 07:24 PM |
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The media searches for the most ridiculous story |
AllentownJake |
Jun-06-10 07:26 PM |
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Or affordable housing that wasn't fit to be condemned. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-10 07:28 PM |
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Excellent comments here |
VermeerLives |
Jun-06-10 07:21 PM |
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Pay as you go doesn't work too well |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 10:07 PM |
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"Personally, if I had children I would not pay for their college education." |
depakid |
Jun-06-10 11:19 PM |
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Not sure I understand the problem. Why are multigenerational families a bad thing? |
retread |
Jun-06-10 07:24 PM |
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I think it's partly the uber-capitalist mentality we have in this country. |
nomorenomore08 |
Jun-06-10 07:30 PM |
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because it goes against Consumerist-Capitalist hyperindividualist social atomism. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 10:11 PM |
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what you said. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-07-10 07:02 AM |
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That's exactly it |
treestar |
Jun-07-10 07:24 PM |
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Day I turned 18 I was told if you move out, it's YOYO time. |
hobbit709 |
Jun-06-10 07:26 PM |
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Our culture has lost the concept of family |
Matariki |
Jun-06-10 07:38 PM |
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Never underestimate the power of saturation media, |
Trillo |
Jun-06-10 08:27 PM |
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There's not a lot of options out there |
JonLP24 |
Jun-06-10 08:01 PM |
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My how times have changed. |
Trillo |
Jun-06-10 08:20 PM |
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It is sad |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 10:17 PM |
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Good post. nt |
raccoon |
Jun-08-10 09:16 AM |
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But some kids ARE Daddy's Money Pits. |
blueamy66 |
Jun-07-10 11:53 AM |
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I left home at 18 with $300 from my parents for college. |
donco6 |
Jun-06-10 08:29 PM |
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How old are you? Because that wouldn't cover one semester's used community college texts now. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-10 09:59 PM |
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It didn't then either. But that's all they had to give. |
donco6 |
Jun-06-10 10:24 PM |
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Well here is your cookie. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-06-10 10:28 PM |
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I understand that. But nobody's going to get two shitty fast food jobs right now. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-10 10:31 PM |
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You know, I thought it over. |
donco6 |
Jun-06-10 10:47 PM |
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That was my experience in college--I cleaned up after these "just cannot find a job!" types |
Romulox |
Jun-08-10 09:23 AM |
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THERE ARE NO JOBS! What do expect them to do? Live on the street? |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 10:00 PM |
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As the living standard of the USA declines, more kids... |
roamer65 |
Jun-06-10 10:07 PM |
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Yup. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 10:16 PM |
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Went that route myself |
Alcibiades |
Jun-06-10 10:49 PM |
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My daughter just graduated from college |
Horse with no Name |
Jun-09-10 04:29 PM |
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My daughter just graduated from college |
Horse with no Name |
Jun-09-10 04:29 PM |
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Gotta love the sexism in the article's title. |
noamnety |
Jun-06-10 10:28 PM |
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Ten to one the writer of the article has step-children. |
Matariki |
Jun-07-10 11:40 AM |
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bookmark for later as I need to read this |
Liberation Angel |
Jun-06-10 10:36 PM |
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What's wrong with parents helping their kids ? |
JI7 |
Jun-06-10 10:36 PM |
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Image is all that counts sometimes |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 10:47 PM |
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IME, they are typically the pot-smoking, drunken louts populating bars at 2 and 3 a.m., |
closeupready |
Jun-07-10 02:52 PM |
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those are usually the kids of wealthy families , but this article gave an example of |
JI7 |
Jun-07-10 09:52 PM |
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And why are they calling it a "dole?" |
treestar |
Jun-07-10 07:26 PM |
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Isn't the Wall Street Journal supported by some sugar daddy? |
hunter |
Jun-06-10 10:40 PM |
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Why are they criticizing cell phone sharing plans? |
Juche |
Jun-06-10 10:53 PM |
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That's exactly what I mean by "Corporate Consumerist Hyperindividualistic Social Atomism". |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 11:02 PM |
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So supporting your family members is called 'the dole' now?? |
Zoeisright |
Jun-06-10 11:14 PM |
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Worst economy in 70 years: blame the kids. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-07-10 07:00 AM |
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This article had solid stats to back up its assertions, but how many examples did it use? |
Berry Cool |
Jun-07-10 10:07 AM |
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This is what comes when a real virtue, the seeking of knowledge, is commoditized and |
Greyhound |
Jun-07-10 02:39 PM |
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I have said it in a million different threads |
Ramulux |
Jun-07-10 05:11 PM |
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Right on homeslice n/t |
rockymountaindem |
Jun-07-10 08:20 PM |
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I cannot believe the crap I'm reading here! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-07-10 06:01 PM |
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Very good points. Wages are way below even a modest cost of living. |
stanwyck |
Jun-07-10 08:09 PM |
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Very good points. Wages are way below even a modest cost of living. |
stanwyck |
Jun-07-10 08:09 PM |
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Young workers are the most exploited segment of the working class today. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-07-10 08:17 PM |
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You're not taking into account inflation in your figures: |
kiva |
Jun-08-10 09:48 AM |
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Another WSJ article blaming YOUNG WORKERS, and DUers pissing all over themselves to agree. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-07-10 08:16 PM |
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Back in the 80's, my brother lived at home while going to college and working- |
haele |
Jun-07-10 08:27 PM |
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At least with HCR someone like her can get affordable healthcare |
LynneSin |
Jun-08-10 09:24 AM |
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Calling BS on the "but there are no jobs!" thing. |
Romulox |
Jun-08-10 09:27 AM |
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A person focused on their academics is "grade-grubbing" and " a little snowflake"? |
Matariki |
Jun-08-10 06:44 PM |
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Methinks the lady doth protest too much. |
Romulox |
Jun-09-10 09:37 AM |
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This is such heartless, uninformed nonsense. So effing sick of it. |
Prism |
Jun-08-10 06:48 PM |
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Thank you for this |
JonLP24 |
Jun-08-10 07:27 PM |
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From 2009 |
JonLP24 |
Jun-08-10 06:50 PM |
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I think people are talking about real jobs. Not part time high school and college work. |
tranche |
Jun-09-10 11:36 AM |
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It's part of the same trend. If kids aren't "allowed" to work in HS and college, they have no skills |
Romulox |
Jun-09-10 04:02 PM |
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The fault lies with the parents. Cut the goddamn umbilical cord already, you ass clowns. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jun-08-10 10:25 AM |
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so the 'adults' fuck up the country...and the youth get blamed? A message from Limp Bizkit... |
happy_liberal |
Jun-08-10 06:34 PM |
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It's all a scam, all of it |
chillspike |
Jun-08-10 06:50 PM |
#137 |
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They paved paradise and put up a parking lot |
happy_liberal |
Jun-08-10 07:21 PM |
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TCU |
yella_dawg |
Jun-08-10 07:24 PM |
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Interesting. . .just last semester, I asked one class how many of them |
kevinbgoode |
Jun-09-10 10:03 AM |
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I was more fortunate |
NNN0LHI |
Jun-09-10 10:22 AM |
#147 |
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How many of these parents (and their children) complaining about "no jobs" drive American? |
Romulox |
Jun-09-10 04:07 PM |
#153 |
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Best post of the thread. |
Romulox |
Jun-09-10 04:08 PM |
#154 |
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I'm soft hearted that way. I don't think I can push my kids out. |
TwilightGardener |
Jun-09-10 10:09 AM |
#146 |
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I have very simple rule for my kids. |
Xithras |
Jun-09-10 10:24 AM |
#148 |
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