madfloridian
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Sun Jun-06-10 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 56. But it is NOT about tests (plural). It is about the test. (singular) |
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It may be called by different names in different states...in FL it is the FCAT.
A student can make all "A's", study hard for years...and fail the FCAT. And be a failure.
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| -NY passes students who get wrong answers on tests |
The Straight Story |
Jun-06-10 11:32 AM |
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It ain't just NY, and it ain't just elementary tests. |
southerncrone |
Jun-06-10 11:42 AM |
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In my state the only high school kids who have to take the state tests |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 11:49 AM |
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In my state, ALL must pass the ACT to graduate in 2013. |
southerncrone |
Jun-06-10 12:02 PM |
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The deliberate under and |
Golden Raisin |
Jun-06-10 04:48 PM |
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Uhhm, I got partial credit for showing my work in Differential Equations classes at Berkeley... |
LooseWilly |
Jun-07-10 04:02 AM |
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Yes that happens in a lot of states |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 11:43 AM |
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Another example of farce. |
southerncrone |
Jun-06-10 11:52 AM |
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I just finished grading 60+ 10-page papers as part of the TA requirement for my grad degree |
Adsos Letter |
Jun-06-10 11:56 AM |
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You should try to "decipher" some HS freshman & soph writing! |
southerncrone |
Jun-06-10 12:13 PM |
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I had to read your statement a couple of times before it made sense |
notadmblnd |
Jun-06-10 12:37 PM |
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"the word "use" in this sentence needs no quotation marks" |
Hempathy |
Jun-06-10 12:44 PM |
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In six sentences, the writer used they 3 times. A real grammar cop |
notadmblnd |
Jun-06-10 12:58 PM |
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"...if you're not part of the solution, then obviously; you're part of the problem. " |
Hempathy |
Jun-06-10 02:13 PM |
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All the "they" pronouns had perfectly clear antecedents. |
Tansy_Gold |
Jun-06-10 03:16 PM |
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A+ |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 01:12 PM |
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You need to distinguish between casual writing and formal writing. |
Catshrink |
Jun-06-10 12:56 PM |
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As you should. It has been my experience |
notadmblnd |
Jun-06-10 01:10 PM |
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"some causal writing" -- typo |
Tansy_Gold |
Jun-06-10 01:48 PM |
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Um yes that is indeed a complete sentence |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 01:11 PM |
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The topic |
notadmblnd |
Jun-06-10 01:15 PM |
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Yes if the 'work' reflects an understanding of the process. |
elleng |
Jun-06-10 03:50 PM |
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No it isn't. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 01:21 PM |
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What you posted is a fragment. Plus there's no context. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 01:24 PM |
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Yes, that's why I called it a 'sentence fragment.' |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 01:36 PM |
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Forsooth, thou art wrong. |
Igel |
Jun-06-10 04:30 PM |
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Agreed, but I did give the nod to literary considerations to begin with. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 05:45 PM |
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When TAing awhile back I got a paper written entirely in text-ese |
Posteritatis |
Jun-06-10 01:55 PM |
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I would've stuck to 'LOL u fail.' |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 02:07 PM |
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It certainly didn't get a stellar grade in any case |
Posteritatis |
Jun-06-10 02:28 PM |
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Antecedents for "They" |
Tansy_Gold |
Jun-06-10 03:22 PM |
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What's a yr? eom |
boppers |
Jun-06-10 05:41 PM |
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"This yr's frosh" = |
Tansy_Gold |
Jun-06-10 09:20 PM |
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Diane Ravitch's book |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 11:46 AM |
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"increase," not "increases" |
woo me with science |
Jun-07-10 01:14 AM |
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Let's hurry up and race to the bottom |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-06-10 11:50 AM |
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If a student shows their work, giving partial credit for knowing how |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-06-10 11:56 AM |
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That's why we need good scoring guides |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 12:01 PM |
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I guess BP should get partial credit for showing it could drill most of the well safely |
FarCenter |
Jun-06-10 12:21 PM |
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If that was in the Oil Drilling scoring guide, yes |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 01:14 PM |
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BP does not get school credits, you big silly. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-06-10 01:38 PM |
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In the real world there is often a big difference between being right and being almost right |
FarCenter |
Jun-06-10 02:07 PM |
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I am not sure what you mean by the "real world," but I don't think |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-06-10 05:49 PM |
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actually the student should get full credit |
dsc |
Jun-06-10 12:55 PM |
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That is not odds. The odds are 1:11. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-06-10 01:34 PM |
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sorry misread the question though I would also call it misleading |
dsc |
Jun-06-10 01:56 PM |
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And they come in to college expecting to get the same consideration. |
kiva |
Jun-06-10 12:00 PM |
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Yup. A big wakeup; check out my post #7, wherein I just recently received a wakeup of my own |
Adsos Letter |
Jun-06-10 12:06 PM |
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It's scary. I'm at a community college, so many of our students |
kiva |
Jun-06-10 06:01 PM |
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I think this would be more acceptable if a kid was getting 1 out of 4 |
dsc |
Jun-06-10 12:07 PM |
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The stupid, it BURNS!!! |
Odin2005 |
Jun-06-10 12:12 PM |
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i went to a public school. |
endless october |
Jun-06-10 12:18 PM |
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Maybe we should fund public education well. Stop the stupid competition |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 12:43 PM |
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what does funding have to do with bad gradding practices? |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 12:59 PM |
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I do hate the idea of making education about just one test. |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 01:02 PM |
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Nobody said it was just about one test. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 01:08 PM |
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But it IS about just one test |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 01:17 PM |
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In 12 years of school that gives you 12 tests, no? |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 01:31 PM |
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The test that counts is just the big one. Grades don't matter if you don't pass THE test |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 02:00 PM |
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Get with the program, Mad! |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 02:03 PM |
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That is just what I am seeing here. We are all just dumb. |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 02:06 PM |
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Actually no |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 02:01 PM |
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Ok, so 10 instead of 12; I stand by my basic point. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 02:10 PM |
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And your insult to teachers is noted |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jun-06-10 07:25 PM |
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But heaven forfend you should properly prepare students for them. nt |
anigbrowl |
Jun-07-10 01:09 AM |
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And that means shoddy standardized tests are okay! (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-06-10 02:03 PM |
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"gradding" |
KonaKane |
Jun-06-10 01:15 PM |
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You'd love my teacher certification textbook. |
Igel |
Jun-06-10 04:57 PM |
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Self-esteme is vary important. Math skillz aint. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-06-10 12:48 PM |
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And BTW this is part of the New York Post anti public school campaign |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 12:58 PM |
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We have become a forum that supports privatizing education. |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 01:03 PM |
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Not this one. |
KonaKane |
Jun-06-10 01:13 PM |
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Me, too. And also for |
Tansy_Gold |
Jun-06-10 01:40 PM |
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an unjustifiable conclusion |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 01:14 PM |
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But it is NOT about tests (plural). It is about the test. (singular) |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 02:03 PM |
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I find it hard to believe any A student would have a major problem with this. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 02:47 PM |
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Superior education, superior attitude? |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 03:14 PM |
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That's a judgment for others to make, not me |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 06:09 PM |
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Yes, those who do not are in the minority in the Democratic party now. |
donco6 |
Jun-06-10 02:03 PM |
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We also declare winners a team who loses by too many points. What |
Obamanaut |
Jun-06-10 01:20 PM |
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IQ exists on a bell curve, and those on the left end of it can't stay in school forever |
AngryAmish |
Jun-06-10 01:21 PM |
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1. Everyone knows the tests are ridiculous. 2. Why do people NOT get... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Jun-06-10 01:27 PM |
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I see a lot of people who get that teachers don't want those tied to the tests... |
Posteritatis |
Jun-06-10 02:00 PM |
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There is much hostility now toward teachers. Mostly caused by this administration. |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 02:36 PM |
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Oh come now. Neither Obama nor Duncan invented the idea of being competitive. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 06:23 PM |
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They are fulfilling the dream of Gingrich for free market schools. |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 06:56 PM |
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Name removed |
Jun-07-10 01:08 AM |
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I am not very bright according to you. Your remarks are tiring. |
madfloridian |
Jun-07-10 01:28 AM |
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How can one have accountability in the profession? |
boppers |
Jun-06-10 05:40 PM |
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Testing alone isn't enough |
Posteritatis |
Jun-06-10 08:06 PM |
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I don't see anything wrong with that |
Clintonista2 |
Jun-06-10 03:19 PM |
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That's useful at times. |
Igel |
Jun-06-10 05:22 PM |
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well |
Shadow Creature |
Jun-06-10 04:59 PM |
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To hell with standardized testing! |
New Dawn |
Jun-06-10 06:08 PM |
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Yes, objectivity is so horrible |
anigbrowl |
Jun-06-10 06:27 PM |
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Arne IS abandoning regulation....turning it over to private companies. |
madfloridian |
Jun-06-10 06:30 PM |
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That wasn't very persuasive. Whatever happened to "justify your answer?" |
anigbrowl |
Jun-07-10 01:35 AM |
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They only provide 'meaningful' testing for English vocabulary/grammar and math. |
New Dawn |
Jun-06-10 06:51 PM |
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And you consider those skills worthless. I see. nt |
anigbrowl |
Jun-07-10 01:15 AM |
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I'm hearing more and more about schools only paying token attention to the GRE |
Posteritatis |
Jun-06-10 08:09 PM |
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snagglepuss |
Jun-07-10 03:27 AM |
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