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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 02:03 PM
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56. But it is NOT about tests (plural). It is about the test. (singular)
It may be called by different names in different states...in FL it is the FCAT.

A student can make all "A's", study hard for years...and fail the FCAT. And be a failure.

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  -NY passes students who get wrong answers on tests The Straight Story  Jun-06-10 11:32 AM   #0 
  - It ain't just NY, and it ain't just elementary tests.  southerncrone   Jun-06-10 11:42 AM   #1 
  - In my state the only high school kids who have to take the state tests  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 11:49 AM   #4 
  - In my state, ALL must pass the ACT to graduate in 2013.  southerncrone   Jun-06-10 12:02 PM   #11 
  - The deliberate under and  Golden Raisin   Jun-06-10 04:48 PM   #73 
  - Uhhm, I got partial credit for showing my work in Differential Equations classes at Berkeley...  LooseWilly   Jun-07-10 04:02 AM   #100 
  - Yes that happens in a lot of states  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 11:43 AM   #2 
  - Another example of farce.  southerncrone   Jun-06-10 11:52 AM   #6 
  - I just finished grading 60+ 10-page papers as part of the TA requirement for my grad degree  Adsos Letter   Jun-06-10 11:56 AM   #7 
     - You should try to "decipher" some HS freshman & soph writing!  southerncrone   Jun-06-10 12:13 PM   #15 
        - I had to read your statement a couple of times before it made sense  notadmblnd   Jun-06-10 12:37 PM   #18 
        - "the word "use" in this sentence needs no quotation marks"  Hempathy   Jun-06-10 12:44 PM   #20 
        - In six sentences, the writer used they 3 times. A real grammar cop  notadmblnd   Jun-06-10 12:58 PM   #25 
        - "...if you're not part of the solution, then obviously; you're part of the problem. "  Hempathy   Jun-06-10 02:13 PM   #63 
        - All the "they" pronouns had perfectly clear antecedents.  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 03:16 PM   #68 
        - A+  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 01:12 PM   #32 
        - You need to distinguish between casual writing and formal writing.  Catshrink   Jun-06-10 12:56 PM   #23 
        - As you should. It has been my experience  notadmblnd   Jun-06-10 01:10 PM   #30 
           - "some causal writing" -- typo  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 01:48 PM   #49 
        - Um yes that is indeed a complete sentence  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 01:11 PM   #31 
           - The topic  notadmblnd   Jun-06-10 01:15 PM   #37 
           - Yes if the 'work' reflects an understanding of the process.  elleng   Jun-06-10 03:50 PM   #71 
           - No it isn't.  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 01:21 PM   #40 
              - What you posted is a fragment. Plus there's no context.  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 01:24 PM   #42 
                 - Yes, that's why I called it a 'sentence fragment.'  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 01:36 PM   #46 
                    - Forsooth, thou art wrong.  Igel   Jun-06-10 04:30 PM   #72 
                       - Agreed, but I did give the nod to literary considerations to begin with.  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 05:45 PM   #79 
        - When TAing awhile back I got a paper written entirely in text-ese  Posteritatis   Jun-06-10 01:55 PM   #50 
        - I would've stuck to 'LOL u fail.'  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 02:07 PM   #61 
           - It certainly didn't get a stellar grade in any case  Posteritatis   Jun-06-10 02:28 PM   #64 
        - Antecedents for "They"  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 03:22 PM   #70 
        - What's a yr? eom  boppers   Jun-06-10 05:41 PM   #78 
           - "This yr's frosh" =  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 09:20 PM   #92 
  - Diane Ravitch's book  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 11:46 AM   #3 
  - "increase," not "increases"  woo me with science   Jun-07-10 01:14 AM   #95 
  - Let's hurry up and race to the bottom  Angry Dragon   Jun-06-10 11:50 AM   #5 
  - If a student shows their work, giving partial credit for knowing how  ZombieHorde   Jun-06-10 11:56 AM   #8 
  - That's why we need good scoring guides  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 12:01 PM   #10 
  - I guess BP should get partial credit for showing it could drill most of the well safely  FarCenter   Jun-06-10 12:21 PM   #17 
  - If that was in the Oil Drilling scoring guide, yes  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 01:14 PM   #34 
  - BP does not get school credits, you big silly. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-06-10 01:38 PM   #47 
     - In the real world there is often a big difference between being right and being almost right  FarCenter   Jun-06-10 02:07 PM   #60 
        - I am not sure what you mean by the "real world," but I don't think  ZombieHorde   Jun-06-10 05:49 PM   #80 
  - actually the student should get full credit  dsc   Jun-06-10 12:55 PM   #22 
     - That is not odds. The odds are 1:11. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-06-10 01:34 PM   #45 
        - sorry misread the question though I would also call it misleading  dsc   Jun-06-10 01:56 PM   #51 
  - And they come in to college expecting to get the same consideration.  kiva   Jun-06-10 12:00 PM   #9 
  - Yup. A big wakeup; check out my post #7, wherein I just recently received a wakeup of my own  Adsos Letter   Jun-06-10 12:06 PM   #12 
     - It's scary. I'm at a community college, so many of our students  kiva   Jun-06-10 06:01 PM   #81 
  - I think this would be more acceptable if a kid was getting 1 out of 4  dsc   Jun-06-10 12:07 PM   #13 
  - The stupid, it BURNS!!!  Odin2005   Jun-06-10 12:12 PM   #14 
  - i went to a public school.  endless october   Jun-06-10 12:18 PM   #16 
  - Maybe we should fund public education well. Stop the stupid competition  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 12:43 PM   #19 
  - what does funding have to do with bad gradding practices?  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 12:59 PM   #26 
     - I do hate the idea of making education about just one test.  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 01:02 PM   #27 
     - Nobody said it was just about one test.  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 01:08 PM   #29 
        - But it IS about just one test  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 01:17 PM   #38 
           - In 12 years of school that gives you 12 tests, no?  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 01:31 PM   #44 
              - The test that counts is just the big one. Grades don't matter if you don't pass THE test  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 02:00 PM   #52 
              - Get with the program, Mad!  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 02:03 PM   #58 
                 - That is just what I am seeing here. We are all just dumb.  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 02:06 PM   #59 
              - Actually no  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 02:01 PM   #54 
              - Ok, so 10 instead of 12; I stand by my basic point.  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 02:10 PM   #62 
                 - And your insult to teachers is noted  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-06-10 07:25 PM   #89 
                    - But heaven forfend you should properly prepare students for them. nt  anigbrowl   Jun-07-10 01:09 AM   #94 
              - And that means shoddy standardized tests are okay! (nt)  Posteritatis   Jun-06-10 02:03 PM   #55 
     - "gradding"  KonaKane   Jun-06-10 01:15 PM   #36 
        - You'd love my teacher certification textbook.  Igel   Jun-06-10 04:57 PM   #74 
  - Self-esteme is vary important. Math skillz aint.  cherokeeprogressive   Jun-06-10 12:48 PM   #21 
  - And BTW this is part of the New York Post anti public school campaign  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 12:58 PM   #24 
  - We have become a forum that supports privatizing education.  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 01:03 PM   #28 
  - Not this one.  KonaKane   Jun-06-10 01:13 PM   #33 
  - Me, too. And also for  Tansy_Gold   Jun-06-10 01:40 PM   #48 
  - an unjustifiable conclusion  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 01:14 PM   #35 
  - But it is NOT about tests (plural). It is about the test. (singular)  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 02:03 PM   #56 
     - I find it hard to believe any A student would have a major problem with this.  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 02:47 PM   #66 
        - Superior education, superior attitude?  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 03:14 PM   #67 
           - That's a judgment for others to make, not me  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 06:09 PM   #83 
  - Yes, those who do not are in the minority in the Democratic party now.  donco6   Jun-06-10 02:03 PM   #57 
  - We also declare winners a team who loses by too many points. What  Obamanaut   Jun-06-10 01:20 PM   #39 
  - IQ exists on a bell curve, and those on the left end of it can't stay in school forever  AngryAmish   Jun-06-10 01:21 PM   #41 
  - 1. Everyone knows the tests are ridiculous. 2. Why do people NOT get...  Smarmie Doofus   Jun-06-10 01:27 PM   #43 
  - I see a lot of people who get that teachers don't want those tied to the tests...  Posteritatis   Jun-06-10 02:00 PM   #53 
     - There is much hostility now toward teachers. Mostly caused by this administration.  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 02:36 PM   #65 
     - Oh come now. Neither Obama nor Duncan invented the idea of being competitive.  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 06:23 PM   #84 
        - They are fulfilling the dream of Gingrich for free market schools.  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 06:56 PM   #88 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-10 01:08 AM   #93 
              - I am not very bright according to you. Your remarks are tiring.  madfloridian   Jun-07-10 01:28 AM   #97 
     - How can one have accountability in the profession?  boppers   Jun-06-10 05:40 PM   #77 
        - Testing alone isn't enough  Posteritatis   Jun-06-10 08:06 PM   #90 
  - I don't see anything wrong with that  Clintonista2   Jun-06-10 03:19 PM   #69 
  - That's useful at times.  Igel   Jun-06-10 05:22 PM   #76 
  - well  Shadow Creature   Jun-06-10 04:59 PM   #75 
  - To hell with standardized testing!  New Dawn   Jun-06-10 06:08 PM   #82 
  - Yes, objectivity is so horrible  anigbrowl   Jun-06-10 06:27 PM   #85 
  - Arne IS abandoning regulation....turning it over to private companies.  madfloridian   Jun-06-10 06:30 PM   #86 
  - That wasn't very persuasive. Whatever happened to "justify your answer?"  anigbrowl   Jun-07-10 01:35 AM   #98 
  - They only provide 'meaningful' testing for English vocabulary/grammar and math.  New Dawn   Jun-06-10 06:51 PM   #87 
     - And you consider those skills worthless. I see. nt  anigbrowl   Jun-07-10 01:15 AM   #96 
  - I'm hearing more and more about schools only paying token attention to the GRE  Posteritatis   Jun-06-10 08:09 PM   #91 
  - .  snagglepuss   Jun-07-10 03:27 AM   #99 
 

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