| 18. The same Joe Biden who authored |
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several unconstitutional 'anti-crime' acts which were limited by the Supreme Court. The same Joe Biden, author of the (criminal )Iraq War Resolution. The same Joe Biden, who sponsored the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005? That Joe Biden?!?  |
| -Joe Biden on the assault on the Marmara: "So What's The Big Deal Here?" |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:12 PM |
#0 |
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He's right. |
Joe the Revelator |
Jun-04-10 10:20 PM |
#1 |
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He's right in saying the IDF should be allowed to investigate its own murderers? |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:22 PM |
#3 |
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no one should be able to investigate their own problems. ever. |
wingnut40 |
Jun-04-10 10:28 PM |
#9 |
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Sure! |
Fox_Hunter |
Jun-05-10 12:33 AM |
#45 |
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So the murder of an American citizen |
Tunkamerica |
Jun-04-10 10:24 PM |
#7 |
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Using buzz words doesn't give you the high ground in an argument |
Joe the Revelator |
Jun-04-10 10:29 PM |
#11 |
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Execution style murder is "buzz words"? |
Webster Green |
Jun-04-10 10:33 PM |
#15 |
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All I did was summarize the reality |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:34 PM |
#17 |
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Sure it is. unless the person is prone on on knees |
Pavulon |
Jun-04-10 11:44 PM |
#36 |
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What is a "moz drill", which is considered standard fare? |
tango-tee |
Jun-05-10 12:18 PM |
#61 |
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Military jargon, used as though it validates his opinion that the killing was legit. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 12:55 PM |
#65 |
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No the video tape showing guys swinging pipe does that.(nt) |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 01:01 PM |
#70 |
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Uh, no, it doesn't n/t |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-06-10 03:26 AM |
#138 |
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No, it doesn't. |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:37 AM |
#142 |
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No the video shown on international news sources makes it undeniable.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:30 AM |
#155 |
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+1 |
Jefferson23 |
Jun-06-10 08:21 AM |
#152 |
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Its a failure to stop drill used with sidearms. More so by police |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 01:01 PM |
#69 |
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"Centre mass"... |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:43 AM |
#144 |
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Think about it. Where is your center of mass? |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:31 AM |
#156 |
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It means he's trying to impress people. |
Forkboy |
Jun-05-10 02:09 PM |
#75 |
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Forkboy, |
tango-tee |
Jun-05-10 10:57 PM |
#92 |
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Bottom line, you guys really wanted this. It was you white whale |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:18 PM |
#98 |
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Sort of like how Israel gets what it wants when terrorists attack? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 12:32 AM |
#128 |
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HUH? Not one single sentence of what you wrote makes |
kas125 |
Jun-06-10 03:02 AM |
#136 |
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Pavulon... |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:44 AM |
#145 |
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It was a planned stunt from the beginning, and it went south |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:33 AM |
#157 |
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You sound like as conspiracy nut. |
Forkboy |
Jun-06-10 08:44 AM |
#164 |
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Impress people AND defend pirates who murdered unarmed |
kas125 |
Jun-06-10 02:58 AM |
#135 |
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A home invader doesn't get to plead self defense just because the homeowner fought back. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 12:20 PM |
#62 |
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You analogy is flawed, use police in my house. |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 01:04 PM |
#71 |
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How do you know it is the police if they have a 'no knock' warrant? |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:13 PM |
#95 |
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Because they have uniforms that say "police" |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:15 PM |
#96 |
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Oh right you have time to figure that out while they are shooting at you |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:16 PM |
#97 |
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Do I have a pipe and a gas mask. Did I disarm the first man and gut shoot |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:20 PM |
#100 |
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Just keep repeating that lie and I'm sure someone will believe it. |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:29 PM |
#105 |
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Video tape speaks. all else is straight bullshit. |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:32 PM |
#108 |
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Video from the murdering party is not evidence. |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:37 PM |
#111 |
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Video it from the cameras on the ship, you are late to the party |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:40 PM |
#114 |
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Oh wow...yet again you are wrong - masks don't stop bullets. |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:41 PM |
#116 |
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Google that video up. Those pipes look real peaceful. |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:44 PM |
#119 |
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Boarding a ship in international waters armed to the teeth |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 12:52 AM |
#129 |
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I support full disclosure. As this tape does, it will just support the truth.(nt) |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:26 AM |
#154 |
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Let's see the RESt of the footage, eh, Pavulon? |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:45 AM |
#146 |
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The more the better. Seems they all show opposite of your meme |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 12:15 PM |
#182 |
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Since when have the police been allowed to |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-06-10 03:29 PM |
#187 |
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except for one thing |
erikdane |
Jun-06-10 12:27 PM |
#183 |
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In a blockade a ship that refused to allow its contents to be inspected loses its protected status. |
Statistical |
Jun-06-10 10:18 AM |
#174 |
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"Self-defense" is a buzz word. So is "terrorist." |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 12:12 PM |
#59 |
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Israel announced intent over the radio, thats how the "unarmed" had time to get pipes |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 12:16 PM |
#60 |
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I hereby announce my intent to invade your house. Don't hit me or I'm allowed to shoot you. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 12:43 PM |
#63 |
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The video shows the truth and nullifies all the BS |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 12:58 PM |
#67 |
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That video was edited to show the what the Israeli government wanted it to show |
Raineyb |
Jun-05-10 02:15 PM |
#77 |
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Video is the ultimate witness. Edits can be detected. |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 02:53 PM |
#78 |
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Clearly you don't mind innocent people getting gunned down. |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:30 PM |
#106 |
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Pipe swinging innocent, you have a tv or internet? check the video |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:35 PM |
#109 |
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The murdering party boards, shooting unarmed civilians and you expect |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:39 PM |
#113 |
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The pipe makes them armed |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:47 PM |
#121 |
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You're just making it up. |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:46 AM |
#147 |
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Try it with you local police, walk in and hit an officer and keep hitting him |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:36 AM |
#159 |
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Then, I assume that you will be ready to apologize and DO |
kas125 |
Jun-06-10 03:10 AM |
#137 |
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Are you a robot? You have been repeating the same stupid |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-06-10 03:42 AM |
#143 |
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They were armed, its on tape and everything you said about legality is wrong.(nt) |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:34 AM |
#158 |
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I guess according to ignored some Americans are more worthy of being avenged than others. |
Raineyb |
Jun-05-10 02:05 PM |
#73 |
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Yes, Israel has the right to murder foreign civilians on a foreign ship in international waters. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 12:07 PM |
#56 |
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Well stated, JackRiddler! |
tango-tee |
Jun-05-10 11:07 PM |
#93 |
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It is amazing how far people will go to 'rationalize' state sanctioned |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:19 PM |
#99 |
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Might is not right |
HughMoran |
Jun-05-10 11:20 PM |
#101 |
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No he isn't. Not even close. |
Richard Steele |
Jun-06-10 11:06 AM |
#177 |
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I didn't vote for him |
wingnut40 |
Jun-04-10 10:21 PM |
#2 |
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Same here. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:23 PM |
#4 |
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Why do you think so many dems know him as MBNA Joe? |
Lost4words |
Jun-04-10 10:32 PM |
#13 |
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Learn somethings about him, watch the interview: |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:33 PM |
#87 |
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Yes you did, you couldn't split that vote. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 12:08 PM |
#57 |
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I voted for both. |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:32 PM |
#86 |
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Well no, no it doesn't.... |
tnlefty |
Jun-04-10 10:23 PM |
#5 |
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It's a good night for it. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:24 PM |
#6 |
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Watch the interview: |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:36 PM |
#88 |
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That's two topics this week he pontificated on when he should have known better |
depakid |
Jun-04-10 10:25 PM |
#8 |
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Check his position on jobs and Gaza in interview: |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:37 PM |
#89 |
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Yeah, |
Libertas1776 |
Jun-04-10 10:29 PM |
#10 |
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He's a fucking asshole. |
katandmoon |
Jun-04-10 10:31 PM |
#12 |
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He is a fucking asshole. |
Webster Green |
Jun-04-10 10:34 PM |
#19 |
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Joe, it's a BIG FUCKING DEAL!!!!! |
WeDidIt |
Jun-04-10 10:32 PM |
#14 |
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He's right. |
emilyg |
Jun-04-10 10:34 PM |
#16 |
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You agree, then, that the Israeli government should be allowed to run a whitewash investigation? |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:36 PM |
#23 |
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Do Jewish lives matter to the Muslims? |
emilyg |
Jun-04-10 11:32 PM |
#30 |
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Does your statement have relevancy? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-04-10 11:34 PM |
#32 |
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I wasn't talking to you. Yes it stopped being an excuse in kindergarten - as did |
emilyg |
Jun-05-10 01:30 AM |
#48 |
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You're speaking in an open forum |
Chulanowa |
Jun-05-10 04:32 AM |
#49 |
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You grow the fuck up. |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:54 PM |
#91 |
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Doesn't bother me |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 02:33 AM |
#134 |
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Too bad, Chulan, you know thing about me. |
elleng |
Jun-06-10 11:23 AM |
#178 |
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Ellen, thanks for the link, but I'm a bit confused... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-06-10 03:34 AM |
# |
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No, Violet, not 'sticking up' for Emilyg; haven't met her, |
elleng |
Jun-06-10 11:27 AM |
#179 |
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You didn't seem to mind when |
emilyg |
Jun-06-10 01:00 PM |
#184 |
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My impression of the Biden interview... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-06-10 06:32 AM |
#151 |
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That's an accurate summary, Violet, but one word of advice on English non-word usage |
Ken Burch |
Jun-06-10 03:58 PM |
#190 |
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And of course he did NOT say something 'mean,' he doesn't do such. |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:52 PM |
#90 |
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Jewish lives matter to most Muslims; Muslim lives do not matter to the Israeli government. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jun-05-10 07:19 PM |
#82 |
| -
What a revolting and bigoted thing for you to say... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-06-10 03:30 AM |
#139 |
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You put it better than I did, Violet. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-06-10 03:54 PM |
#189 |
| -
Ahhhh, there it is. Ducking and diving. |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:50 AM |
#148 |
| -
Yuck. |
Forkboy |
Jun-06-10 10:08 AM |
#172 |
| -
Well at least you are |
emilyg |
Jun-06-10 01:04 PM |
#185 |
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To a fair amount, they do. To others, perhaps they have fewer fellow feelings towards ISRAELIS. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-06-10 03:12 PM |
#186 |
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The same Joe Biden who authored |
Dawson Leery |
Jun-04-10 10:34 PM |
#18 |
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OH...so you've heard of him, then. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:35 PM |
#20 |
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I am not registered with any political party either. |
Dawson Leery |
Jun-04-10 10:52 PM |
# |
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OK...how about |
Ken Burch |
Jun-06-10 03:52 PM |
#188 |
| -
The Senate always reminds me of this and Joe is their rep in the WH. |
EFerrari |
Jun-04-10 10:35 PM |
#21 |
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Link - contact the VP ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-04-10 10:35 PM |
#22 |
| -
While legally he is correct |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-04-10 10:37 PM |
#24 |
| -
I have never been a Hamas fan. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 10:42 PM |
#25 |
| -
I will answer once |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-04-10 10:52 PM |
#26 |
| -
They fear all the time....but is that fear ALWAYS justified? |
Ken Burch |
Jun-04-10 11:03 PM |
#28 |
| -
How long can grudges go on? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-04-10 11:16 PM |
#29 |
| -
"Where is the outrage"? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-04-10 11:41 PM |
#34 |
| -
Is the US giving $3 billion a year in aid to North Korea? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-05-10 11:42 PM |
#117 |
| -
Hey, what is the main battle tank used by egypt? |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:48 PM |
#122 |
| -
You're seriously using Egypt as the example? How deep would you like to dig your hole? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-06-10 01:35 AM |
#132 |
| -
This is a pet issue |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:41 AM |
#162 |
| -
Again, is the US officially involved in the Congo war? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-06-10 10:28 AM |
#176 |
| -
It is about claims of control. |
RandomThoughts |
Jun-04-10 11:02 PM |
#27 |
| -
well an american citizen was murdered...oh.. i mean died |
madrchsod |
Jun-04-10 11:34 PM |
#31 |
| -
Not towing your line on your pet issue, so fuck him. |
Pavulon |
Jun-04-10 11:38 PM |
#33 |
| -
The world is bigger than the US and Israel |
Chulanowa |
Jun-04-10 11:42 PM |
#35 |
| -
The IP conflict is backwater, meaningless. other than those who worship at its altar |
Pavulon |
Jun-04-10 11:46 PM |
#37 |
| -
The IP conflict drives much of what consumes our politics these days.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-05-10 12:04 AM |
#40 |
| -
They live in overflowing toilet states. Like the DPRC |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 12:08 AM |
#41 |
| -
Israel has no oil.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-05-10 12:19 AM |
#42 |
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53, who was pres then? Airliners had propellers, they hate us because of their theocrat gov |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 12:26 AM |
#43 |
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Umm.. The theocrat government is a direct result of the overthrow in 1953 |
Fumesucker |
Jun-05-10 01:16 AM |
#47 |
| -
Yep, but after reconstruction we moved on. E. Germans moved on, |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 12:05 PM |
#54 |
| -
Strange, "the land of the free" has the highest incarceration rate in the world.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-05-10 07:10 PM |
#81 |
| -
Victims of the drug war. Hint, not white people |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:25 PM |
#104 |
| -
Ah, that makes it so much better... |
Fumesucker |
Jun-06-10 01:44 AM |
#133 |
| -
Oh i Get it. Palestinians are the regional poor |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:38 AM |
#161 |
| -
It took over a century to get rid of Jim Crow.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-06-10 10:00 AM |
#171 |
| -
And who made those "toilet states"? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-05-10 12:36 AM |
#46 |
| -
Whoa partner. The us did not back an attack on kuwait |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 07:27 AM |
#50 |
| -
Actually we did |
Chulanowa |
Jun-05-10 12:02 PM |
#52 |
| -
Care to back that with a primary source? |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 12:03 PM |
#53 |
| -
Sure thing |
Chulanowa |
Jun-05-10 12:48 PM |
#64 |
| -
Did you actually read that doc? |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 01:09 PM |
#72 |
| -
It states both |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 12:30 AM |
#127 |
| -
No it discuses military drills and clearly does not say we support the invasion. |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:42 AM |
#163 |
| -
Wrong on East Germany |
SOS |
Jun-06-10 10:26 AM |
#175 |
| -
Well the wonders of communism can still be found in Cuba or North Korea |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 12:05 PM |
#180 |
| -
Unified Germany - Love it or Leave It! |
SOS |
Jun-06-10 11:55 PM |
#192 |
| -
Not quite correct |
Chulanowa |
Jun-05-10 12:31 AM |
#44 |
| -
IP is a line item on agendas of oil rich states. Note the wall egypt built |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 07:30 AM |
#51 |
| -
Note that Egypt is a puppet state |
Chulanowa |
Jun-05-10 12:55 PM |
#66 |
| -
And yet you've commented on it as much, if not more, than almost everyone here. |
Forkboy |
Jun-05-10 02:13 PM |
#76 |
| -
Its to hot to work in the yard... |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 03:04 PM |
#80 |
| -
There's certainly some hot air floating around..... |
Forkboy |
Jun-06-10 08:46 AM |
#166 |
| -
Queue video...Its fake though right? |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 09:03 AM |
#169 |
| -
You seem to want to argue with what you say instead of what I say. |
Forkboy |
Jun-06-10 09:18 AM |
#170 |
| -
Strongly disagree, because of the number of people in other countries who care about it. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jun-05-10 07:22 PM |
#84 |
| -
Nope, they are puppets. That is why egypt built a wall and Jordan |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:23 PM |
#103 |
| -
That's really not gonna win you any friends, Pavulon. |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:53 AM |
#149 |
| -
Biden, SHUT THE FUCK UP, ASSHOLE. |
chimpymustgo |
Jun-04-10 11:46 PM |
#38 |
| -
Watch it here, get facts. |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:28 PM |
#85 |
| -
No big deal that our citizens are getting abducted, tortured, and murdered? |
New Dawn |
Jun-04-10 11:51 PM |
#39 |
| -
*FACEPLAM* @ Joe |
Odin2005 |
Jun-05-10 12:07 PM |
#55 |
| -
He knows it's BS. |
frustrated_lefty |
Jun-05-10 12:08 PM |
#58 |
| -
Biden is a neo-lib and a mouthpiece for the administration. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-05-10 01:01 PM |
#68 |
| -
Exactly. nt |
snagglepuss |
Jun-05-10 11:48 PM |
#123 |
| -
What's the surprise here |
upi402 |
Jun-05-10 02:08 PM |
#74 |
| -
'we're open to international participation' - since it was in intl. waters that would be nice |
Bluebear |
Jun-05-10 02:55 PM |
#79 |
| -
Guardian has it WRONG! |
elleng |
Jun-05-10 07:21 PM |
#83 |
| -
What do you expect from Israel shills? |
Voluntary1 |
Jun-05-10 11:10 PM |
#94 |
| -
You mean the guys with pipes? |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:22 PM |
#102 |
| -
He was shot at close range with four bullets to his head and |
Voluntary1 |
Jun-05-10 11:36 PM |
#110 |
| -
With a pistol. Ever had any military training |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:42 PM |
#118 |
| -
No evidece that Furkan Dogan had a pistol |
Voluntary1 |
Jun-06-10 12:01 AM |
#126 |
| -
There is no evidence PERIOD. Everyone is surfing on emotion and little fact |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:57 AM |
#168 |
| -
Hey they were clearly asking for murder, they picked up pipes |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:31 PM |
#107 |
| -
I will up the bet. $500 cash if you let a high school kid |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:38 PM |
#112 |
| -
You can try and justify bullets to pipes for defense all you want to |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:41 PM |
#115 |
| -
I dont count, neither do you. State department, and potus do |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:45 PM |
#120 |
| -
Wrong, you are not important since you believe that |
Rex |
Jun-05-10 11:49 PM |
#124 |
| -
Orwellian language aside, the humanitarians on the other boats were not harmed |
Pavulon |
Jun-05-10 11:52 PM |
#125 |
| -
Only 9. |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:31 AM |
#140 |
| -
The people on the other boats who used no violence |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:24 AM |
#153 |
| -
Really? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-06-10 12:56 AM |
#130 |
| -
State has a clear position on this. |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:46 AM |
#167 |
| -
With a helmet on, full combat gear and a gun to hold up to protect my face? |
Prometheus Bound |
Jun-06-10 01:05 AM |
#131 |
| -
Dressed like the guys in the video |
Pavulon |
Jun-06-10 08:44 AM |
#165 |
| -
Nope. Definitely helmets. |
Prometheus Bound |
Jun-06-10 07:20 PM |
#191 |
| -
Well, soldiers wear helmets and body armor. A pipe to the head won't do as much damage. |
Selatius |
Jun-06-10 04:56 AM |
#150 |
| -
The big deal joe is that people are dead. |
Zix |
Jun-06-10 03:34 AM |
#141 |
| -
I like Joe generally. |
BlueMTexpat |
Jun-06-10 08:37 AM |
#160 |
| -
I'll be wonderinng what the big deal is in November of 2012, Joe. |
Forkboy |
Jun-06-10 10:13 AM |
#173 |
| -
Ruh Ro. Meme seems to be falling apart as more photos surface. |
Pavulon |
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