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Response to Reply #26
28. You can't tell the difference
between someone engaged in combat (and with handgun) and a sniper who is in no danger and whose presence is unknown to the attacker?

There are exceptions to every rule. Generally speaking you aim center mass and fire until target is no longer a thread. Many special forces until train defeat drill which is alternating head and body shots to "defeat" any potential body armor.
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  -ABC: American, 19, among Gaza Flotilla Dead (shot in head X4) mod mom  Jun-03-10 10:15 AM   #0 
  - Mr. Dogan was obviously a particularly nasty terrorist  gratuitous   Jun-03-10 10:19 AM   #1 
  - He had no right being in INTERNATIONAL WATERS!  mod mom   Jun-03-10 10:24 AM   #5 
  - Four shots to the head of a US citizen - Has Israel finally gone too far?  kenny blankenship   Jun-03-10 11:38 AM   #23 
  - the fact they wore mask tells me they intended to do something that they needed to protect their  mod mom   Jun-03-10 11:41 AM   #25 
  - you're right. nt  tiptoe   Jun-03-10 03:23 PM   #49 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-04-10 12:15 AM   #98 
  - Terrorists attack the families of soldiers and politicians.  proteus_lives   Jun-04-10 04:15 PM   #114 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-03-10 03:29 PM   #51 
  - Has it been determined that only one person fired at the 19 year old?  SnakeEyes   Jun-03-10 11:57 PM   #93 
  - Even that is no justification  Ticonderoga   Jun-04-10 09:27 AM   #105 
     - How is the blockade illegal?  SnakeEyes   Jun-04-10 01:07 PM   #113 
  - Or shot him in the face with a tear gas canister  Ticonderoga   Jun-04-10 09:24 AM   #104 
  - Ha!  Confusious   Jun-03-10 08:18 PM   #80 
  - In any investigation of this event,  burnsei sensei   Jun-03-10 09:01 PM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-03-10 01:48 PM   #36 
  - Or a flesh eating zombie. I mean come on, we've all seen the movies. nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-04-10 04:26 PM   #118 
  - Our gov has not condemmed this horrible incident. I doubt they  sandbar   Jun-03-10 10:19 AM   #2 
  - It's not too late for Obama to get out in front of this problem  kenny blankenship   Jun-03-10 11:48 AM   #27 
     - Touche`  Grinchie   Jun-03-10 03:30 PM   #52 
  - K&R If the US behaves like it has in the past  deminks   Jun-03-10 10:21 AM   #3 
  - Killed defending himself and others from piracy. The U.S. just happens to...  Poll_Blind   Jun-03-10 10:22 AM   #4 
  - Israel's paid shills appearing to smear this guy as a "terrorist" in 3...2...1... n/t  backscatter712   Jun-03-10 10:25 AM   #6 
  - "I hope our government seeks justice for this death as well as others!"  LakeSamish706   Jun-03-10 10:25 AM   #7 
  - I hate that this involves Israel but  CarlaLevin   Jun-03-10 10:26 AM   #8 
  - article says "shot at close range"  mod mom   Jun-03-10 10:28 AM   #9 
  - It's possible that he was shot by...  Cassandra   Jun-03-10 10:37 AM   #10 
  - 4 soldiers at close range couldn't see the others were about to fire?  mod mom   Jun-03-10 10:40 AM   #11 
  - yeah - in an EXECUTION.  Donnachaidh   Jun-03-10 10:44 AM   #13 
  - At the same time? Or one after the other? Doesnt compute. nm  rhett o rick   Jun-03-10 05:15 PM   #69 
  - Guess you have never fired a semi automatic handgun.  Statistical   Jun-03-10 10:50 AM   #14 
  - A decision was made to shoot in the head VS maiming in another area of the body  mod mom   Jun-03-10 10:58 AM   #17 
  - Of course it was a deadly attack  Statistical   Jun-03-10 11:03 AM   #18 
     - To Wit:....  xocet   Jun-03-10 11:44 AM   #26 
     - You can't tell the difference  Statistical   Jun-03-10 11:58 AM   #28 
     - Of course....  xocet   Jun-03-10 03:37 PM   #56 
     - Thanx  disillusioned73   Jun-03-10 02:18 PM   #43 
     - You want to stop the target, and the target is obviously not wearing  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-04-10 09:48 AM   #107 
  - Attempting a head shot (much less 4) under duress is not common training.  Lance_Boyle   Jun-03-10 01:08 PM   #32 
  - +1 for Occam's Razor  Ignis   Jun-03-10 04:35 PM   #63 
  - or 3rd position on M4 trigger control. Full auto  Pavulon   Jun-04-10 04:24 PM   #117 
  - My own guess is four people opening up at once NT  Recursion   Jun-03-10 03:32 PM   #54 
  - "Four shots sounds like standing over someone and shooting repeatedly"  proteus_lives   Jun-03-10 11:07 AM   #19 
  - so you trust IDF Spokespeople over peace activists? n/t  subsuelo   Jun-03-10 11:35 AM   #22 
  - Depends on the situation.  proteus_lives   Jun-03-10 02:18 PM   #44 
     - Sorry, but you've always totally swallowed everything the IDF says about any situation...  Violet_Crumble   Jun-04-10 05:44 AM   #100 
        - Ok.  proteus_lives   Jun-04-10 04:16 PM   #115 
           - I don't give a shit what you think about me...  Violet_Crumble   Jun-04-10 04:22 PM   #116 
  - someone in a mask jumps on my boat in international waters & threatens me with a gun  WolverineDG   Jun-03-10 12:26 PM   #30 
  - Are you trying to break a blockade after being repeatedly warned off?  proteus_lives   Jun-03-10 02:15 PM   #40 
     - That does not excuse what happened nt  WolverineDG   Jun-03-10 03:18 PM   #47 
     - at what point would you admit this was indefensible?  Warren Stupidity   Jun-03-10 09:50 PM   #86 
     - This was not done inside the legit waters of Israel but 40 miles out.  truedelphi   Jun-04-10 12:12 AM   #96 
     - They were in international waters. Plus that blockade is illegal...  Violet_Crumble   Jun-04-10 05:49 AM   #102 
  - The IDF says they specifically targetted LEGS once they opened fire.  Lance_Boyle   Jun-03-10 01:09 PM   #33 
  - Why?  proteus_lives   Jun-03-10 02:16 PM   #41 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-03-10 02:01 PM   #37 
  - And deck chairs!  proud2BlibKansan   Jun-03-10 05:03 PM   #68 
     - Deck chairs?!? Clearly, they HAD to be shot.  Ignis   Jun-03-10 05:46 PM   #71 
  - backwards.  whattheidonot   Jun-03-10 11:32 AM   #21 
  - Just watched an interview from the Al Jazeera reporter who was there.  backscatter712   Jun-03-10 03:23 PM   #50 
     - Just saw that video as well. But I'm sure the journalist will be smeared.  Ignis   Jun-03-10 05:54 PM   #72 
     - Likely for crowd dispersal  SnakeEyes   Jun-04-10 12:01 AM   #94 
  - fucking murderous bastards.  Whisp   Jun-03-10 10:40 AM   #12 
  - Shot in the head 4  femrap   Jun-03-10 10:51 AM   #15 
  - Precisely  Sherman A1   Jun-03-10 02:18 PM   #42 
  - ABC's 'Breaking News' headline is about a Golden Girl passing  subsuelo   Jun-03-10 10:57 AM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-03-10 03:34 PM   #55 
  - Israel is the Eddie Haskell of the world stage. NT  JohnnyBoots   Jun-03-10 11:11 AM   #20 
  - Israel is the Charles Manson of the world stage.  Dr.Phool   Jun-03-10 02:08 PM   #38 
     - Manson could only dream of starting race wars like Israel does.  Wizard777   Jun-03-10 03:16 PM   #46 
  - Activism sometimes can be dangerous - Americans tend to forget that  stray cat   Jun-03-10 11:39 AM   #24 
  - You're always so deep.  Forkboy   Jun-03-10 12:23 PM   #29 
  - kick and recommend!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!  Douglas Carpenter   Jun-03-10 01:04 PM   #31 
  - I hope we don't.  newtothegame   Jun-03-10 01:29 PM   #34 
  - Neocons, like Netanyahu?  mod mom   Jun-03-10 01:39 PM   #35 
  - Many of those "liberals" are opportunistic - liberal in America, ultra-right when it comes to Israel  entanglement   Jun-03-10 04:37 PM   #65 
  - Don't call them liberal. They resent it.  glitch   Jun-03-10 06:15 PM   #74 
  - Israel is the only US ally whose armed forces have killed American citizens advertenly  liberation   Jun-03-10 03:13 PM   #45 
  - Self defense my ass.  crim son   Jun-03-10 02:12 PM   #39 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Jun-03-10 09:09 PM   #82 
  - Israel doesn't shoot at kids with rocks  SnakeEyes   Jun-04-10 12:03 AM   #95 
  - Not that the US would have to do much. No retaliation. No censuring. No sanctions.  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-04-10 09:58 AM   #108 
  - This is very very very bad.  freddie mertz   Jun-03-10 03:21 PM   #48 
  - Can we get a new spokesliar?  Moochy   Jun-03-10 09:55 PM   #89 
  - Who Ordered/allowed/ the Raid and the shooters must all face trail and subsequent punishment  opihimoimoi   Jun-03-10 03:30 PM   #53 
  - Yep. This conversation would be entirely different if Israel had simply  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-04-10 10:03 AM   #109 
  - omg. awful  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-03-10 03:38 PM   #57 
  - IDF = cold-blooded murderers.  Odin2005   Jun-03-10 03:39 PM   #58 
  - Fuck  SILVER__FOX52   Jun-03-10 03:40 PM   #59 
  - Furkan Dogan was engaged  Enthusiast   Jun-03-10 04:18 PM   #60 
  - I'm sure he was an anti-semite and therefore had it coming.  Crunchy Frog   Jun-03-10 04:29 PM   #61 
  - He was an ORGANIZED TURK(ish american)  Warren Stupidity   Jun-03-10 09:51 PM   #88 
  - Interesting: Most headlines have "U.S. Citizen" rather than the more emotive "American".Very subtle.  entanglement   Jun-03-10 04:30 PM   #62 
  - +1, have to massage the message, right?  Ignis   Jun-03-10 05:54 PM   #73 
  - Every Press Owner gets the chance to spin locally  Moochy   Jun-03-10 09:50 PM   #87 
  - Good observation.  geardaddy   Jun-03-10 06:36 PM   #75 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Jun-03-10 09:10 PM   #83 
  - Goebbelian, ain't it?  liberation   Jun-04-10 12:13 AM   #97 
     - That 'American student' was Rachel Corrie.  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-04-10 10:07 AM   #110 
        - Wrong  Ticonderoga   Jun-04-10 10:25 AM   #111 
           - Oh.  RaleighNCDUer   Jun-04-10 10:28 AM   #112 
  - If our politicians don't seek justice for Furkan, I'm through. Finished. n/t  Catherina   Jun-03-10 04:37 PM   #64 
  - finished with what?  Truth2Tell   Jun-04-10 01:59 AM   #99 
     - Finished with them  Catherina   Jun-04-10 08:17 AM   #103 
  - our government?  G_j   Jun-03-10 04:40 PM   #66 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Jun-03-10 09:11 PM   #84 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-03-10 04:58 PM   #67 
  - Four shots to the head? Fuck the Israeli terrorists. US needs to take  tekisui   Jun-03-10 05:36 PM   #70 
  - he must have attacked those poor Israeli commandos  branders seine   Jun-03-10 06:50 PM   #76 
  - "Sprinkle some crack on him and let's get out of here!"  Ignis   Jun-03-10 07:50 PM   #78 
  - This is such a tragedy, and horrific situation..for everyone involved.  BrklynLiberal   Jun-03-10 07:42 PM   #77 
  - Pre-dawn raid, in int'l waters, in SWAT gear with guns dropping from choppers?  AmericaIsGreat   Jun-03-10 07:50 PM   #79 
  - Oh so now that an American is dead, it makes it all different  Moochy   Jun-03-10 09:49 PM   #85 
  - agreed, but it does make it more difficult  Warren Stupidity   Jun-03-10 10:08 PM   #90 
  - Shot in the head 4 times???? WHO THE FUCK CAN TELL AFTER THE FIRST TWO????  cliffordu   Jun-03-10 11:10 PM   #91 
  - I'm surprised Israel hasn't tried to claim compensation from the dead people's families  davidpdx   Jun-03-10 11:11 PM   #92 
  - Give them time. They'll get round to it n/t  Violet_Crumble   Jun-04-10 05:45 AM   #101 
  - "I hope our government seeks justice for this death as well as others!" -- HAHAHA  Bertha Venation   Jun-04-10 09:37 AM   #106 
  - Terrorism from a terrorists state.  blindpig   Jun-04-10 04:44 PM   #119 
 

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