| -Backpacker shoots, kills grizzly in Denali National Park |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 03:06 PM |
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didn't the previous ban only apply to concealed weapons? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-01-10 03:07 PM |
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Here's what it says on the Park's website |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 03:14 PM |
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This is good advice: |
Wilber_Stool |
Jun-01-10 03:25 PM |
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lol |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-01-10 03:31 PM |
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I would have to see the tape to see if she was charged. People |
roguevalley |
Jun-01-10 04:11 PM |
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I wouldn't try to talk sense into the ignorant and cowardly folks on this thread |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 04:41 PM |
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You're so right. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 08:50 PM |
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heh. I waited for it. Yup. |
librechik |
Jun-01-10 04:14 PM |
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How can the average person tell the difference between a charge and a bluff? |
TheMightyFavog |
Jun-01-10 03:28 PM |
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Well, if you tried to educate yourself before going into the wilderness |
joeybee12 |
Jun-01-10 04:52 PM |
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When it comes to grizzlies |
Confusious |
Jun-01-10 08:22 PM |
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Well that is comforting to know. |
MyNameGoesHere |
Jun-02-10 01:02 PM |
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"studies have shown that pepper spray may actually be more effective in preventing a bear attack tha |
eShirl |
Jun-01-10 07:22 PM |
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An article on one. |
HuckleB |
Jun-02-10 08:08 PM |
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A bit more on guns, WAS legal to carry in 2/3 of Denali before this. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 12:41 AM |
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Well, one study, at least. And it was done in regard to bears in Alaska. |
HuckleB |
Jun-02-10 08:15 PM |
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Bear Spray vs. Bullets |
HuckleB |
Jun-02-10 08:28 PM |
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Delete - copied twice |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 03:14 PM |
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Bears are always charging people who are armed |
Chulanowa |
Jun-01-10 03:10 PM |
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... |
texastoast |
Jun-01-10 03:15 PM |
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Bears are a bunch of gun-grabbers, I tell ya! |
smokey nj |
Jun-01-10 06:24 PM |
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So it begins. |
sinkingfeeling |
Jun-01-10 03:14 PM |
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Everyone with a brain carries firearms into the Alaskan Wilderness |
Titanothere |
Jun-01-10 03:14 PM |
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Maybe you shouldn't go into the Alaskan wilderness if you need to carry a gun, n'est-ce pas? |
marmar |
Jun-01-10 03:16 PM |
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Exactly -- and especially in a national park or refuge |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 03:19 PM |
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+1000 |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-01-10 04:02 PM |
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Where is the movement to ban human in these areas? |
eShirl |
Jun-01-10 04:07 PM |
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Consider yourself banned. |
Titanothere |
Jun-01-10 05:10 PM |
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So, if you're in a National Park and an animal attacks.you... |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 04:10 PM |
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Thanks Blue. |
cwydro |
Jun-02-10 10:16 AM |
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They don't care |
malaise |
Jun-01-10 03:23 PM |
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If only the cowards could understand. |
tabasco |
Jun-01-10 06:06 PM |
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Guy was killed/eaten by a black bear in Glacier 25ish yrs back, was a friend |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 06:13 PM |
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Another urbanite who has never really been out there |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-01-10 07:36 PM |
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Another urbanite who thinks bears shouldn't be getting capped just so human beings.... |
marmar |
Jun-01-10 08:59 PM |
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Spare the rest of us your ignorance |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-01-10 09:49 PM |
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Pathetically predictable.assinine response. |
marmar |
Jun-01-10 10:18 PM |
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Jun-02-10 12:59 AM |
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Not all of us live as you do |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-02-10 02:34 AM |
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This is a national park. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 03:18 PM |
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Are the grizzlies in Alaska more violent than those in Montana? I've hiked all over Glacier with |
sinkingfeeling |
Jun-01-10 03:20 PM |
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Exactly. |
arbusto_baboso |
Jun-01-10 03:21 PM |
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Don't wear bells. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-01-10 07:00 PM |
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I've read that you should never hike with a dog in bear country. |
leftyladyfrommo |
Jun-01-10 07:08 PM |
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That's true, just because the dog's behavior is unpredictable and could be |
coti |
Jun-01-10 07:20 PM |
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but will it spare me when it attacks the dog? |
JVS |
Jun-02-10 04:04 AM |
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Yea. That's the problem. A pissed off bear is better just left completely alone. n/t |
leftyladyfrommo |
Jun-02-10 05:25 AM |
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Jun-01-10 03:21 PM |
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.... |
Lorien |
Jun-01-10 03:25 PM |
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and how are you going to know if cubs are involved before you head out? |
Titanothere |
Jun-01-10 04:46 PM |
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No angst. You're just too damned ready to tote a gun, is all. |
arbusto_baboso |
Jun-01-10 04:50 PM |
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So only nice men in uniforms should have firearms? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 04:59 PM |
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"Guns don't remedy stupid; in fact they usually serve to magnify it." excellent n/t |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 05:06 PM |
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Of course I don't want to lug a gun around ... but I don't want to wrestle a Griz either n/t |
Titanothere |
Jun-01-10 05:08 PM |
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I imagine for many people, it's little more than an either-or question |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 01:35 PM |
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so if a bear attacks you..you will go hand to hand with it? |
backwoodsbob |
Jun-01-10 06:55 PM |
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Why would you be allowed to go hand to hand with it, if you can't shoot it? |
coti |
Jun-01-10 08:30 PM |
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You should try negotiating first.... |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 09:13 PM |
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Or a |
Politicalboi |
Jun-01-10 10:48 PM |
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I believe that's "pic-a-nic basKET" |
coti |
Jun-01-10 11:17 PM |
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Bears are like people. Most are decent but some just have an attitude. |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 06:20 PM |
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Too true ..Why Shoot a Bear when |
AsahinaKimi |
Jun-01-10 07:20 PM |
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Two of your words don't go well together..... |
TheCowsCameHome |
Jun-01-10 03:29 PM |
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Wrong. Humans are the ones with brains. Use them. This couple was making no noise, |
callous taoboy |
Jun-01-10 03:40 PM |
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Of course, the survivors can all tell the same story. |
bvar22 |
Jun-01-10 05:26 PM |
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A 357 in bear country???? |
Winterblues |
Jun-01-10 05:37 PM |
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I will be fine. |
bvar22 |
Jun-01-10 06:37 PM |
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Treadwell was an idiot |
MrsMatt |
Jun-01-10 07:34 PM |
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Indeed, he was an idiot. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 08:54 PM |
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The worst thing he did was endanger other people, bears, foxes, etc |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:57 PM |
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Idiot or Genius |
bvar22 |
Jun-01-10 09:37 PM |
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Timothy Treadwell is niether idiot nor genius |
Travis Coates |
Jun-02-10 05:37 AM |
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Treadwell is a really poor example to support your case. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-02-10 01:34 PM |
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Because he was an idiot or because he didn't have a firearm? |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 01:38 PM |
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I guess you can take a little bell and hope it works ... |
Titanothere |
Jun-01-10 03:52 PM |
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You can ID grizzly shit because it smells like pepper spray and contains little bells. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-01-10 05:00 PM |
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awesome |
Titanothere |
Jun-01-10 05:11 PM |
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Jun-01-10 04:52 PM |
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There is no justification for this. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 05:16 PM |
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Um, self defense justifies this. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-01-10 05:18 PM |
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No. As I said, if you can't take the risk of an animal encounter |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 06:10 PM |
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Ah, blaming the victim. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-01-10 06:24 PM |
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The victim is the dead bear. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 06:26 PM |
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No, the victim was the victim of the bear attack. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-01-10 06:26 PM |
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What part of "human life is more valuable that animal life" |
MicaelS |
Jun-02-10 12:54 PM |
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Um, you ARE aware that bears that attack people get killed by the Park Service? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:31 PM |
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It's legal to carry firearms, but illegal to discharge them? |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 06:34 PM |
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Its not quite like that... |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-01-10 10:12 PM |
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I used to live in the foothills of the Talkeetna Mountains. I day hiked all over the place. |
scarletwoman |
Jun-01-10 06:03 PM |
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Oh, stop making sense. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-02-10 01:47 PM |
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People with brains who look at the evidence might decide to carry pepper spray. |
HuckleB |
Jun-02-10 08:31 PM |
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Many of us do. Some carry both. I knew few people who didnt''carry bear spray though. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 08:40 PM |
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I've always carried bear spray in Alaska and the Rockies. |
HuckleB |
Jun-02-10 08:56 PM |
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fucking assholes |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 03:24 PM |
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The bear would have been shot by the rangers if it had killed the hikers. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:27 PM |
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This is the tip of the iceberg. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Jun-01-10 03:26 PM |
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Maybe not this one |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-02-10 03:47 AM |
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"It's coming right for us!" |
onehandle |
Jun-01-10 03:58 PM |
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At least it was actually a bear. It seems around here there is at least |
Vinca |
Jun-01-10 04:07 PM |
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What a stupid thing to say. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 04:09 PM |
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Of course not. But if you can't tell the difference between a charging bear |
Vinca |
Jun-01-10 04:32 PM |
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Bloodlust is bloodlust |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 04:43 PM |
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"I ALWAYS root for the bull" |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-01-10 05:15 PM |
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And if the bear IS charging, or is chomping on someone, then what? |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 06:22 PM |
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Simple. You ring a bell. |
Synicus Maximus |
Jun-02-10 08:47 PM |
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Actually, bells are a good idea. When found in bear scat, they know what happened to you. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 08:59 PM |
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just the stupid selfish ones; preferably before they've reproduced. |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 05:09 PM |
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Ha. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 05:44 PM |
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"Knowing how defend himself proves his worth to the gene pool." |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 05:49 PM |
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Smart enough not to be killed by one. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-02-10 06:35 PM |
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Actually, in another local story |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 10:09 PM |
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Typical bullshit. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 04:07 PM |
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Jun-01-10 04:54 PM |
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You're right, education is important. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-01-10 04:57 PM |
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people should educate themselves and be preapred before going into the wild. |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 05:21 PM |
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No kidding... |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 06:43 PM |
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there's no proof this bear attacked anyone. |
provis99 |
Jun-03-10 11:09 PM |
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The bear just wanted to talk about forest fire prevention... |
Blue_Tires |
Jun-01-10 04:32 PM |
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Some of you here are fools acting like bears never attack people |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 04:58 PM |
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Some of us have spent enough time in bear country to know what the deal is |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 05:02 PM |
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I've read a heckuva lot of Alaskans who choose to have a gun |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 05:10 PM |
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Tough guys, eh? |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 05:18 PM |
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So what's the big deal about having both options? |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 05:23 PM |
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Jun-01-10 05:42 PM |
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Gee just like the streets turned into the wild west when concealed carry |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 05:51 PM |
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Here's news- compared with responsible nations- America's streets (and bars and restuarants) |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 06:06 PM |
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You *might* get a better hearing without the reflexive anti-US chauvinism. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-01-10 06:45 PM |
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That's just a description of the facts, Jack |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 07:22 PM |
#124 |
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Better they get stomped or stabbed like the UK, eh? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-01-10 11:25 PM |
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Interesting anti-gun UK today a man killed 12 last count |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-02-10 12:59 PM |
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In a "responsible nation" like the UK? Unpossible! nt |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:13 PM |
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cool picture. thanks |
Vattel |
Jun-01-10 10:42 PM |
#182 |
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I live in bear country |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 05:24 PM |
#62 |
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But an American used a gun, therefore he is wrong! |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-01-10 07:24 PM |
#126 |
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You are right I forgot shame on me for being an American NT |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 07:53 PM |
#132 |
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Oh boy, another internet "tough guy" |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 07:33 PM |
#127 |
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As I said before |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 08:01 PM |
#134 |
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You woudn't come out of your house in Oz then |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 08:20 PM |
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Wrong about dogs and cougars. Try these articles/links..... |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:25 PM |
#145 |
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I was going to say |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 08:34 PM |
#147 |
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Then you assume wrong- |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 12:48 AM |
#193 |
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Do you and Travis Coates live in the same place? I thought you were in Australia, from your profile |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 12:51 AM |
#195 |
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A self-proclaimed 'expert' refuted by professionals in the field. Color me unsurprised. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-01-10 11:56 PM |
#187 |
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How do you think cougars are hunted? |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 12:43 AM |
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If they use dogs, they are trained to hunt cougars. Are you saying all those links I gave are false? |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 12:50 AM |
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I'm saying exacly what I said earlier |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 12:58 AM |
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"As to mountain lions- they run from dogs instinctively " is what you wrote. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:01 AM |
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I've lived where you apparently live |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 01:37 AM |
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hahahahahahahahaha. Bad guess. You still don't say if all those links/articles |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:57 AM |
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Dealing with animals in the wild ain't a bunch of gotcha's on paper |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 02:19 AM |
#204 |
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You clearly do not have a clue about cougars |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-02-10 03:55 AM |
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Jun-02-10 08:27 AM |
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Rather than asking, you assume. Sad, really |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:03 PM |
#244 |
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Save your breath. He's factose-intolerant. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:18 PM |
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I'm trying to find the news article about the guy in Baldwin Lake, CA whose 90 lb. German Shepard |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-02-10 01:30 PM |
#256 |
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Is this it?: "Sheriff’s Deputies Put Down Mountain Lion at Baker Pond Thursday Morning" |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 02:04 PM |
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Actually this happened a couple of years ago, not too far from the incident you linked to. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-02-10 07:01 PM |
#295 |
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Right. Dogs. DogS. As in plural. As in more than one dog. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-02-10 01:27 PM |
#254 |
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Not in California...its been banned for some time |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-02-10 05:48 PM |
#285 |
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You can't pack a gun in OZ |
Travis Coates |
Jun-02-10 05:40 AM |
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Jun-02-10 08:16 AM |
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We know, we know already: "Americans using guns is a bad idea" . |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-01-10 06:55 PM |
#104 |
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Take it back to the gungeon. nt |
onehandle |
Jun-01-10 05:44 PM |
#74 |
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This bear could have been avoided: stay out of the park. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 06:12 PM |
#85 |
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So your solution is just don't go to our national parks. Ever. |
coti |
Jun-01-10 06:33 PM |
#95 |
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And don't go swimming in the ocean either |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 07:14 PM |
#116 |
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Don't beat the shark with your fist, either. Imagine how it makes the shark feel. |
coti |
Jun-01-10 07:18 PM |
#119 |
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You carry a gun while swimming? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 09:16 PM |
#160 |
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If people aren't allowed to defend themselves |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 09:35 PM |
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Jun-01-10 09:46 PM |
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I am far from a gun nut... |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 10:33 PM |
#181 |
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What if I want to go into the park |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 07:16 PM |
#118 |
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Do you really not understand the idea of a nature reserve? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 09:48 PM |
#168 |
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Pike National Forest |
Travis Coates |
Jun-02-10 05:55 AM |
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Yeah - don't kill the animals in them. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-02-10 07:53 AM |
#220 |
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I think I made myself clear |
Travis Coates |
Jun-02-10 03:29 PM |
#273 |
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Did you hear about the fools who sprayed bear repellent on themselves, like bug spray? |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 06:31 PM |
#94 |
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Yep- griz are a lot less predictable than black bear |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 07:15 PM |
#117 |
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The killing of the bear in Eagle River |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-01-10 10:04 PM |
#176 |
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Many people may think theat firearms are the only appropriate tool... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 06:35 PM |
#292 |
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Shoot bear or get mauled to death... tough choice there. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jun-01-10 05:02 PM |
#46 |
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Pardon me for not automatically believing the story of a bear "charging" them w/out cause |
brentspeak |
Jun-01-10 05:20 PM |
#58 |
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Gee you were there huh? |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 05:26 PM |
#65 |
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I go actual hiking all the time |
brentspeak |
Jun-01-10 05:29 PM |
#66 |
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And I drive all the time, |
bvar22 |
Jun-02-10 01:47 PM |
#265 |
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Or a primer in cost/benefit ratios, either... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 06:21 PM |
#287 |
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"This couple likely stupidly did something to surprise or provoke the bear." |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 05:51 PM |
#76 |
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I would have had pepper spray with me... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-01-10 05:20 PM |
#59 |
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Just don't spray it on your gear - might be catnip to them |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 05:25 PM |
#63 |
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no worries there... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-01-10 05:40 PM |
#69 |
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Better than ending up like Timothy Treadwell... Dariwn Award candidate... |
-..__... |
Jun-01-10 05:36 PM |
#67 |
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sorry, using a fucking nut like Treadwell does NOTHING to support your argumant... |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 05:44 PM |
#72 |
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I bet that thing kicks like a mule NT |
Travis Coates |
Jun-01-10 08:41 PM |
#148 |
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Seems to me that it would be less expensive to simply think... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 06:23 PM |
#288 |
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This thread is hilarious. |
flvegan |
Jun-01-10 05:44 PM |
#73 |
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Yep - bunch of keyboard hikers |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-01-10 05:52 PM |
#78 |
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If the bear had been packing, we wouldn't be having this discussion nt |
wtmusic |
Jun-01-10 05:53 PM |
#79 |
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too bad it wasn't the bears.... |
Scout |
Jun-01-10 05:58 PM |
#80 |
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I'm suspicious of the hikers |
mokawanis |
Jun-01-10 06:17 PM |
#87 |
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Faced with a charging grizzly, I'd probably shoot too. |
mainer |
Jun-01-10 06:38 PM |
#98 |
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Wilderness areas are just that - wilderness. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 06:46 PM |
#101 |
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Only on DU |
The Straight Story |
Jun-01-10 06:51 PM |
#102 |
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Nah. There are whole forums here for those |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-01-10 07:01 PM |
#107 |
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I know. Critical thinking is underrated, but so is common sense. |
coti |
Jun-01-10 07:09 PM |
#115 |
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Yet another case of irony impairment |
depakid |
Jun-01-10 08:06 PM |
#135 |
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What's the unwarranted assumption in this case? |
coti |
Jun-01-10 08:11 PM |
#139 |
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Wow. Even after being called on it- you STILL don't get it |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 12:53 AM |
#196 |
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You're bullshitting. |
coti |
Jun-02-10 03:15 AM |
#207 |
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I love how threads like these bring the gun supporters out of the dungeon. |
Lucian |
Jun-01-10 07:00 PM |
#106 |
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But, but. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-01-10 07:02 PM |
#108 |
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Yeah, those people should have laid down and let the bear eat them |
The Straight Story |
Jun-01-10 07:03 PM |
#109 |
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Those people didn't need to be there to begin with. |
Lucian |
Jun-01-10 07:04 PM |
#110 |
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Simple fact was ---- they were. And people DO go hiking outdoors, and guns can protect them |
The Straight Story |
Jun-01-10 07:05 PM |
#111 |
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People need to quit being stupid and going into bear territory. |
Lucian |
Jun-01-10 07:07 PM |
#112 |
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I guess everyone who lives in CA OR WA ID MT MN NJ AK etc should move |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:07 PM |
#137 |
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No, they should stay the fuck out of the areas reserved for bears. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 09:11 PM |
#157 |
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People should stay out of National Parks unless they are willing to die? |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 12:44 AM |
#192 |
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That's what he's saying. We shouldn't visit our national parks. nt |
coti |
Jun-02-10 03:17 AM |
#208 |
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if you intend to kill the animals stay out. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-02-10 07:52 AM |
#219 |
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I've spent a lot of time in the bush, never had to shoot a bear. BUT |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:12 PM |
#248 |
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What if you are accepting of being eaten by a bear? Then that bear will be hunted down and killed. |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 03:48 PM |
#279 |
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I imagine there are ways to prevent the death of... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 06:27 PM |
#290 |
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what? |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 06:38 PM |
#294 |
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I grew up in upstate New York, not in a national park, not in a |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-02-10 03:09 PM |
#272 |
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Unless armed with (wait for it...) common sense and basic research.... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 06:26 PM |
#289 |
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Look at post #245. Denali is not a wildlife preserve nt |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:57 PM |
#267 |
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How are you going to get the bears |
Travis Coates |
Jun-02-10 03:40 PM |
#275 |
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they were stupid and the bear paid the price. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 07:20 PM |
#122 |
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Do an autopsy on the bear. If most of the 9 shots hit it in the chest/face and move |
coti |
Jun-01-10 07:24 PM |
#125 |
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amateurs wouldn't know if it was charging or not. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 07:38 PM |
#131 |
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Excellent! Just what we need, someone who personally knows the people involved. |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:06 PM |
#136 |
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dude -- everybody fuckin lies -- including you -- and me. nt |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 08:09 PM |
#138 |
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Poor Logic. Just because I lied once does not mean everything I say is a lie. |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:14 PM |
#140 |
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dude doesn't and often isn't gender specific and other than one time |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 08:18 PM |
#141 |
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Poor logic. Just because I say I lied once does not mean that is the only time I've lied or that |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:20 PM |
#143 |
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projection on your part. |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 08:45 PM |
#149 |
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Inadequate knowledge of what the term "projection" means. |
uppityperson |
Jun-01-10 08:52 PM |
#152 |
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ok -- so this is you right? |
xchrom |
Jun-01-10 09:06 PM |
#156 |
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ok--so this is youright? |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 12:57 AM |
#198 |
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Spoken like a true Republican! Damn those freedoms! n/t |
Spoonman |
Jun-02-10 08:38 AM |
#224 |
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That's right... |
S n o w b a l l |
Jun-01-10 07:54 PM |
#133 |
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Nice how we are relegated to the dungeon. |
OnionPatch |
Jun-02-10 08:40 AM |
#225 |
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Yep - Good Post OnionPatch |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-02-10 12:57 PM |
#239 |
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Martyrdom is very popular these days... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-02-10 06:30 PM |
#291 |
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Who knows the real story. The bear is dead. |
leftyladyfrommo |
Jun-01-10 07:07 PM |
#113 |
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the bears story will never be told |
Shadow Creature |
Jun-01-10 07:38 PM |
#130 |
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I need more information before I can form an opinion |
jmondine |
Jun-01-10 08:47 PM |
#150 |
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I agree with this. Here's the thing, though: |
coti |
Jun-01-10 09:11 PM |
#158 |
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I was with you right until the very end. |
jmondine |
Jun-01-10 09:32 PM |
#162 |
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Absolutely agree. People need to fully understand the risks. |
coti |
Jun-01-10 09:37 PM |
#164 |
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Sounds like we're in agreement, just having a couple of misunderstandings. |
jmondine |
Jun-02-10 12:39 AM |
#188 |
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I would never trust a pepper spray over a gun with a large, wild animal, though. |
coti |
Jun-02-10 03:24 AM |
#209 |
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How do you tell the difference between |
Spoonman |
Jun-02-10 08:47 AM |
#226 |
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Bears! The number one threat to America |
dflprincess |
Jun-01-10 09:22 PM |
#161 |
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I was once charged by a pigeon in Central Park. |
Vattel |
Jun-01-10 09:47 PM |
#167 |
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I grovel in the magnificence of this post. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 09:50 PM |
#170 |
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wow, thanks |
Vattel |
Jun-01-10 10:02 PM |
#173 |
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I was attacked by a pigeon in Central Park just last week |
dflprincess |
Jun-02-10 01:11 PM |
#247 |
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at least bears don't fly! |
Vattel |
Jun-03-10 10:09 AM |
#306 |
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I am in awe |
MrCoffee |
Jun-02-10 03:45 PM |
#278 |
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I live in Montana but I don't need a firearm to fend off bear attacks.... |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-01-10 09:50 PM |
#171 |
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I just |
cowman |
Jun-01-10 10:24 PM |
#180 |
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Wasn't it in Montana where the woman was attacked by a black bear. |
leftyladyfrommo |
Jun-02-10 05:27 AM |
#214 |
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It was a scary story, here is a link... |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-02-10 12:46 PM |
#237 |
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I demand the right to jump into tiger cages armed to kill |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-01-10 09:54 PM |
#172 |
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More strawmen. nt |
coti |
Jun-01-10 10:03 PM |
#174 |
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Them too. I'll kill any strawman that threatens me. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-02-10 07:47 AM |
#218 |
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Not in my zoo, you won't! |
jmondine |
Jun-02-10 12:40 AM |
#189 |
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I ran into a black bear once |
Roon |
Jun-01-10 10:03 PM |
#175 |
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Which is what generally happens, |
bvar22 |
Jun-02-10 10:40 AM |
#235 |
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You're presenting verifiable facts against a faith-based argument |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:01 PM |
#241 |
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Thank you for the post. eom |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:19 PM |
#251 |
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Bears, Authors |
Politicalboi |
Jun-01-10 10:45 PM |
#183 |
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Goodness. |
HuckleB |
Jun-03-10 08:02 AM |
#305 |
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I camped out in the Savage River area in Denali |
Baclava |
Jun-02-10 12:55 AM |
#197 |
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I'dve done the same thing |
Quatermain |
Jun-02-10 02:24 AM |
#205 |
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The bear was charging the woman. |
OnionPatch |
Jun-02-10 08:35 AM |
#223 |
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Curious- there hasn't been a problem in all these years- as the OP mentioned |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 08:56 AM |
#227 |
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No, I do think the hikers could have "jumped the gun". |
OnionPatch |
Jun-02-10 10:14 AM |
#232 |
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A woman was injured in Denali by a bear 3 years ago |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-02-10 01:02 PM |
#243 |
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There have been over 600 bear attacks in Alaska history. Secondly, |
apples and oranges |
Jun-02-10 09:54 AM |
#228 |
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Again, not the point. yes bears attack humans and even kill them every now and then. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-02-10 12:39 PM |
#236 |
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Self Defense != Predation |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-03-10 10:49 PM |
#310 |
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National Parks and Wilderness Areas are WILDLIFE SANCTUARIES. |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-02-10 10:04 AM |
#229 |
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As we can see all too clearly- all too many people don't give a shit about anything like that |
depakid |
Jun-02-10 10:22 AM |
#234 |
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Nice use of the royal "we" - and an assumption of facts not in evidence |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:23 PM |
#252 |
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Hate to tell you but if you have enough $$$$$'s you can hunt in Denali |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-02-10 01:07 PM |
#245 |
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A lot of replies say, "If you have to take a gun, stay home" |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jun-02-10 10:08 AM |
#230 |
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I wish the bear won. It's his home. Stupid red necks. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jun-02-10 10:11 AM |
#231 |
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I love all the people who "know" what happened, and are prejudging the shooter |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 01:10 PM |
#246 |
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I like the dumbasses saying shit like "well he shouldn't have been in a national park." |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-02-10 01:25 PM |
#253 |
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I NEVER agree with you about anything...ever. |
bvar22 |
Jun-02-10 09:02 PM |
#304 |
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No one should go to a national park wearing a gun, period... |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jun-02-10 03:01 PM |
#270 |
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assassination? lol |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-02-10 03:32 PM |
#274 |
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Are you seriously saying people should not act in dangerous situations? |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 03:44 PM |
#277 |
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If you've got information that shows this guy was hunting the bear, let's have it. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 05:36 PM |
#284 |
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You have singlehandedly depleted the DU supply of hyperbole for the next month |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-03-10 10:41 PM |
#308 |
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There are some indications that we can draw some conclusions from |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-03-10 10:44 PM |
#309 |
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He should have used martial arts.....nt |
old mark |
Jun-02-10 01:33 PM |
#258 |
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YES!...Like THIS! |
bvar22 |
Jun-02-10 01:44 PM |
#263 |
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Here is a better "using martial arts against a bear" video/ad |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:49 PM |
#266 |
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See? If only EVERYONE would learn to do this, and all guns disappeared |
old mark |
Jun-02-10 02:31 PM |
#269 |
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Question on bear terminology. Brown vs Grizzly |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 01:43 PM |
#262 |
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I hear both terms used. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-02-10 05:22 PM |
#283 |
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There are also blonde and brown variant of the black bear |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-03-10 10:37 PM |
#307 |
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Are bear attacks on the increase? |
HuckleB |
Jun-02-10 03:02 PM |
#271 |
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THE ARISTOCRATS!! |
flvegan |
Jun-02-10 03:42 PM |
#276 |
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The US Forest Service on the Tongass NF required an armed |
PufPuf23 |
Jun-02-10 04:08 PM |
#280 |
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POW Island. Had a friend who took his bus back and forth to Thorne Bay, was setting up |
uppityperson |
Jun-02-10 04:23 PM |
#281 |
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My first trip to Prince of Wales was by twin otter flying under a |
PufPuf23 |
Jun-02-10 04:40 PM |
#282 |
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That's because they secretly wanted the brown bears killed. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-02-10 05:50 PM |
#286 |
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bottom line: you can carry a gun in a NP if the state allows it---& Obama signed into law |
wordpix |
Jun-03-10 10:56 PM |
#311 |
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