You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #8: Wait, what? [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Wait, what?
"Worse yet, we have the misguided idea that education funding, and the direction that education takes, are matters that the public in general should have a lot of input on."

Are you joking?

Education spending, mostly coming from local and state revenue, is like the most expensive thing citizens pay for with their taxes. And you don't think the public should have a lot of "input"? Sounds extremely elitist to me. Who do you think should have "input"? Maybe just teachers and their unions can decide how to spend almost a trillion dollars a year?

This is exactly the kind of thinking that has alienated so many people and made them less sympathetic to public employees in general. This notion that public sector jobs are these untouchable fiefdoms where a downturn in the economy shouldn't effect them. I get the feeling a lot of people think these government jobs should be shielded from cuts and layoffs, maybe because they are union jobs or something. Sorry, but if the private sector is suffering, then the public sector will need to be curtailed. When the economy is bad the majority of Americans who work for private businesses just won't have as much to spend on government services. I just don't see how this is so complicated to people.

Not only should the public have input, I wish they'd take the time to get even more involved. Maybe if they did, people would start helping teachers by participating in the education process by having their kids rested, fed and ready to learn. Perhaps if people were paying attention they'd value the profession more and stop thinking of teachers as glorified babysitters and realize they are professional educators worthy of respect they deserve.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -Having trouble with the 'scape-goating teachers' worry that... YvonneCa  May-30-10 10:51 AM   #0 
  - thank you for caring, you are an asset to your students :-) nt  msongs   May-30-10 10:58 AM   #1 
  - I truly believe that if people REALLY understood what teachers do...  YvonneCa   May-30-10 11:01 AM   #3 
  - Obama's plan with Duncan is to wear you down - make it so humiliating  scentopine   May-30-10 10:59 AM   #2 
  - Well said.  teacher gal   May-31-10 05:28 PM   #19 
  - Teacher appreciation week is just more of those polite mouthings that people use  MadHound   May-30-10 11:03 AM   #4 
  - "Education is an afterthought in this country...  YvonneCa   May-30-10 07:57 PM   #7 
  - Wait, what?  Imajika   May-30-10 08:51 PM   #8 
     - There's the problem in a nutshell. The general public...  YvonneCa   May-30-10 10:35 PM   #10 
     - Well, yes, that is exactly what I think...  Imajika   May-30-10 11:07 PM   #11 
        - What will we do with all the children in the schools...  YvonneCa   May-31-10 04:22 PM   #18 
     - Tell you what, can we subject your job and career to the following conditions?  MadHound   May-30-10 11:10 PM   #12 
        - Sounds like you should change jobs right?  Imajika   May-30-10 11:31 PM   #13 
           - It isn't that people don't realize that the private sector funds the public sector,  MadHound   May-30-10 11:58 PM   #14 
              - No, governments don't provide anything...  Imajika   May-31-10 12:34 AM   #15 
                 - Well tell you what,  MadHound   May-31-10 07:42 AM   #17 
  - The numbers are shocking. Best practice would cap....  Davis_X_Machina   May-30-10 11:14 AM   #5 
  - I agree about best practices. But everyone in education knows...  YvonneCa   May-30-10 12:46 PM   #6 
  - More aircraft carriers! More submarines! More prisons! Fewer teachers!  Scuba   May-30-10 08:52 PM   #9 
  - Screw Obama's and Duncan's anti-teacher BS. (nt)  w4rma   May-31-10 01:45 AM   #16 
  - I teach SS I have 2 x the number of students than any of my math/english counterparts  demtenjeep   May-31-10 05:31 PM   #20 
  - what teacher's make  demtenjeep   May-31-10 05:32 PM   #21 
  - I've always loved that one...  Catshrink   May-31-10 08:21 PM   #23 
  - OMG, I remember those 6 Traits! And each one on a scale! PLUS adding comments!  WinkyDink   May-31-10 09:00 PM   #27 
     - exactly  demtenjeep   May-31-10 10:49 PM   #28 
  - Lets pay teacher's like they are...babysitters  demtenjeep   May-31-10 05:33 PM   #22 
  - I like that one...  YvonneCa   May-31-10 08:52 PM   #24 
     - me too I teach 158 students  demtenjeep   May-31-10 08:53 PM   #25 
  - BT, DT, with the essays. Hence, retired early, age 52. NEVER, EVER looked back.  WinkyDink   May-31-10 08:58 PM   #26 
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC