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68. K&R!
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  -Socialists- Stand tall. Be proud. Our ideology CANNOT be blamed. Union Yes  May-30-10 09:45 AM   #0 
  - What about the SociaBaggers?  SpiralHawk   May-30-10 09:53 AM   #1 
  - Two big thumbs up!  Billy Burnett   May-30-10 09:55 AM   #2 
  - Thanks!  Union Yes   May-30-10 10:09 AM   #4 
     - And lets not forget how Socialism saved Capitalism  FarLeftFist   May-30-10 01:28 PM   #26 
        - 30 years of borrowing from China to bail-out and prop up America.  Union Yes   May-30-10 01:58 PM   #31 
        - The word has been demonized to make people think totalitarianism  bjobotts   May-30-10 07:10 PM   #84 
           - "Democratic Socialism" is the only form of gov that will ensure both freedom and survival  bjobotts   May-30-10 07:28 PM   #88 
              - +100!! Proud democratic socialist here. =]  SocialistLez   May-31-10 11:33 AM   #206 
              - Count me in  louis c   May-31-10 02:57 PM   #232 
              - what happens to small business under "democratic" socialism?  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 04:07 PM   #241 
                 - Courtesy of Dan LaBotz, candidate for Senate in OH  SocialistLez   May-31-10 05:29 PM   #247 
                    - I think that means a promise not to take over small business...  Green_Lantern   Jun-01-10 11:02 AM   #258 
        - when did that happen? the New Deal?  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 04:02 PM   #240 
           - Only because it didn't go far enough  socialist_n_TN   Jun-01-10 09:16 AM   #253 
              - I think you're oversimplifying and really ignoring Keynes' role  Green_Lantern   Jun-01-10 10:56 AM   #257 
  - LOL  malaise   May-30-10 09:57 AM   #3 
  - The signs we carry should say American Socialists are For The People and Sensible Separation of  peacetalksforall   May-30-10 10:10 AM   #5 
  - Word.  Union Yes   May-30-10 10:24 AM   #7 
  - Suggestions for signs........  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 12:12 PM   #19 
     - I think those would make some great signs and/or bumper stickers too!  Union Yes   May-30-10 12:29 PM   #21 
     - "A tuxuedoed pig (marked "Capitalist") eating at a trough marked "Government Bailouts" while trampli  bobbolink   May-30-10 02:12 PM   #32 
     - How about............  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 02:15 PM   #33 
        - That's a good one... also, as I said, need ones for those of us who are  bobbolink   May-30-10 02:19 PM   #34 
           - Show above pig................  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 02:31 PM   #35 
              - Improve them? What an assumption!  bobbolink   May-30-10 02:54 PM   #38 
                 - A couple more for you bobbo  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 06:05 PM   #67 
     - I Like 'em  theFrankFactor   May-30-10 09:32 PM   #110 
  - Good read for a Sunday morning. nt  asdjrocky   May-30-10 10:12 AM   #6 
  - The difference seems to be  rrneck   May-30-10 10:34 AM   #8 
  - It's that simple. It really is.  Union Yes   May-30-10 10:59 AM   #13 
  - Right  Hydra   May-30-10 03:24 PM   #41 
  - you can't really assume what someone labels themself  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 04:12 PM   #242 
  - We need an emoticon w pom poms.  jotsy   May-30-10 10:35 AM   #9 
  - Thank you too jotsy!  Union Yes   May-30-10 03:13 PM   #39 
  - I have felt for some time now  Sheepshank   May-30-10 10:36 AM   #10 
  - Sorry, but I believe in the separation of powers. And that includes  johnaries   May-30-10 10:38 AM   #11 
  - There are a lot of problems with this  okie   May-30-10 01:09 PM   #23 
  - There are many problems with any socio-economic systems.  johnaries   May-30-10 02:50 PM   #37 
  - Well...  okie   May-30-10 06:21 PM   #71 
  - so you advocate taking businesses by force?  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 04:19 PM   #244 
  - Unions "democratize the workplace". as long as gov. regulates for safety and protects their rights.  bjobotts   May-30-10 07:46 PM   #89 
  - Good points  HughMoran   May-31-10 08:53 AM   #170 
  - taking businesses away from owners and giving it to workers...  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 04:16 PM   #243 
  - socialism isn't about state capitalism.  Hannah Bell   May-30-10 01:29 PM   #27 
  - Please explain what it is about, in your view.  johnaries   May-30-10 02:34 PM   #36 
  - Sorry, that's a strawman.  JackRiddler   May-30-10 04:07 PM   #45 
     - I don't think it's a strawman at all. What else is possible?  Usrename   May-30-10 07:02 PM   #83 
        - There are collective entities other than central governments.  JackRiddler   May-30-10 07:58 PM   #93 
           - I think I get your drift.  Usrename   May-30-10 08:03 PM   #94 
              - ?????????  JackRiddler   May-30-10 08:21 PM   #96 
                 - No, he or she simply does not have a logical retort so back to the strawman bag it was...  liberation   May-30-10 11:27 PM   #142 
                 - A logical retort?  Usrename   May-31-10 01:54 AM   #154 
                 - I don't think you know what the words mean that you are using.  Usrename   May-31-10 01:59 AM   #155 
                    - Workers owning shit IS different than owners  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 10:01 AM   #183 
                       - Who decides who is a worker and who is an owner?  Usrename   May-31-10 10:25 AM   #190 
                       - Nope. Unless I'm a member of a democratically elected  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 10:46 AM   #194 
                          - You don't seem to get the point.  Usrename   May-31-10 11:06 AM   #198 
                             - Any worker owned company would be just as subject  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 11:57 AM   #207 
                                - Maybe you just have to work this all out a little better is all.  Usrename   May-31-10 12:46 PM   #213 
                                   - Does anybody know what this person is arguing?  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 01:15 PM   #215 
                                      - Yes, decentralized wealth will be key in any solution.  Usrename   May-31-10 01:28 PM   #217 
                                         - It's called collectivism...............  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 01:34 PM   #218 
                                            - I don't think that addresses any of the problems we are facing.  Usrename   May-31-10 01:50 PM   #221 
                                               - You're STILL thinking boss and workers  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 02:02 PM   #228 
                                                  - good luck  William Z. Foster   May-31-10 03:57 PM   #239 
                                                  - That's right, I am the person to blame for your lack of clarity.  Usrename   May-31-10 08:51 PM   #250 
                                                  - MY lack of clarity?????? WTF?????  socialist_n_TN   Jun-01-10 09:07 AM   #252 
                                                  - This post should be under usrename's post  socialist_n_TN   Jun-01-10 09:18 AM   #254 
                                                  - Dude, I wasn't even talking to you.  Usrename   Jun-01-10 06:24 PM   #260 
                       - thank you  fascisthunter   May-31-10 10:33 AM   #191 
                          - Except that it has nothing to do with finding a solution.  Usrename   May-31-10 11:12 AM   #200 
                             - You're looking at a SYMPTOM of the problem  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 12:20 PM   #212 
                                - Under that definition, I agree with you.  Usrename   May-31-10 01:13 PM   #214 
                                - No. Government ownership of all companies is  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 01:26 PM   #216 
                                   - This leads to an obvious question.  Usrename   May-31-10 01:43 PM   #219 
                                      - Yes an employee owned Blackwater would be  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 02:31 PM   #230 
                                         - You certainly have a lot more faith in those sociopaths than I do.  Usrename   May-31-10 08:45 PM   #249 
                                - Duplicated post  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 01:50 PM   #220 
                                - I agree wholeheartedly with all of these things.  Usrename   May-31-10 01:52 PM   #224 
                                - Reply to myself to add a later thought to this  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 01:50 PM   #222 
                                - Duplicated post  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 01:50 PM   #223 
  - Unfortunately most people have no idea what socialism is to begin with.,  athenasatanjesus   May-30-10 10:39 AM   # 
  - Yeah, see above posts 83 and 93-96. Amazin'  JackRiddler   May-30-10 08:22 PM   #97 
  - You might be interested in the Socialist history of Milwaukee...  Scuba   May-30-10 10:39 AM   #12 
  - the comments on that article are frightening..  iamthebandfanman   May-30-10 10:15 PM   #126 
     - Like the one poser said,  Enthusiast   May-31-10 09:04 AM   #172 
  - You're preaching to THIS choir member  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 11:29 AM   #14 
  - "Fuck Capitalism"- I wholeheartedly concur!  Union Yes   May-30-10 01:23 PM   #24 
  - The Democratic Socialists of America would welcome you.  SocialistLez   May-30-10 06:57 PM   #82 
     - Got a web site for them Lez?  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 10:03 AM   #185 
        - www.dsausa.org  SocialistLez   May-31-10 11:32 AM   #204 
           - Thanks! Yours in Solidarity!  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 11:59 AM   #208 
  - Count me in.  Cleita   May-30-10 11:49 AM   #15 
  - K&R  Odin2005   May-30-10 11:54 AM   #16 
  - Gratuitous post just to keep this on the front page  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 11:59 AM   #17 
  - I appreciate your gratuity!  Union Yes   May-30-10 12:09 PM   #18 
  - No problem. Your OP was terrific  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 12:15 PM   #20 
     - Aw thanks!  Union Yes   May-30-10 12:43 PM   #22 
  - That is encouraging.  Enthusiast   May-31-10 09:11 AM   #173 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-30-10 01:26 PM   #25 
  - Anytime you hear a politician (Republican or Democrat) hype...  bvar22   May-30-10 01:40 PM   #28 
  - Right on, brother!  Enthusiast   May-31-10 09:17 AM   #174 
  - kickity  stuntcat   May-30-10 01:40 PM   #29 
  - Proud to be a Socialist; in Solidarity, Euclid, OH  proudohioan   May-30-10 01:52 PM   #30 
  - K&R!  readmoreoften   May-30-10 03:18 PM   #40 
  - Amen!  colsohlibgal   May-30-10 04:02 PM   #42 
  - +1  shireen   May-30-10 04:15 PM   #47 
  - This is like saying Socialism worked for my family...  Imajika   May-30-10 04:23 PM   #48 
  - I disagree with a lot of this.  okie   May-30-10 06:50 PM   #75 
  - The problem is that there are literally zero...  Imajika   May-30-10 09:34 PM   #111 
  - Few of us are advocates of  Enthusiast   May-31-10 09:35 AM   #178 
     - Wrong..  Imajika   May-31-10 11:11 AM   #199 
        - I disagree.  Enthusiast   May-31-10 12:14 PM   #209 
           - There are fans of Cuba on this site...  Imajika   May-31-10 01:55 PM   #225 
              - huh?  William Z. Foster   May-31-10 03:55 PM   #237 
  - Well said! +1000 nt  Union Yes   May-30-10 05:11 PM   #57 
  - Right wing spokesmen like Beck  Enthusiast   May-31-10 09:22 AM   #175 
  - I may have to hand copies of this out to my Fox-"informed" friends. Nice job!  pundaint   May-30-10 04:04 PM   #43 
  - You have my vote!  Vidar   May-30-10 04:06 PM   #44 
  - Well said - k&r (nt)  ShamelessHussy   May-30-10 04:10 PM   #46 
  - Just to pick a nit, but Morgan Stanley wasn't negatively impacted.  Ruby the Liberal   May-30-10 04:28 PM   #49 
  - ttt  Blue_Tires   May-30-10 04:44 PM   #50 
  - One CAN blame socialism, socialism of the rich over socialism of the rest.  Festivito   May-30-10 04:45 PM   #51 
  - "socialism of the rich" IS capitalism. I get your point, but I'd rather not muddy the waters.  readmoreoften   May-30-10 08:55 PM   #101 
     - Actually, it's not capitalism. And, I would like to muddy the waters.  Festivito   May-30-10 10:26 PM   #132 
  - K&R! Socialism is  man4allcats   May-30-10 04:49 PM   #52 
  - i'm proud to be a socialist too!  green917   May-30-10 04:55 PM   #53 
  - K&R!  Omaha Steve   May-30-10 04:57 PM   #54 
  - No ideology is "perfect"...  MellowDem   May-30-10 04:59 PM   #55 
  - The point is, "WHICH government made those decisions"?  HughBeaumont   May-31-10 07:56 AM   #165 
  - Democratic Socialist right here...nt  and-justice-for-all   May-30-10 05:00 PM   #56 
  - I refuse to abide by this black-and-white analysis of the situation  theaocp   May-30-10 05:11 PM   #58 
  - But regulated free market is NOT capitalist  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 05:33 PM   #60 
  - That may be...  theaocp   May-30-10 05:45 PM   #61 
     - I'd rather have a dream  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 05:59 PM   #66 
        - Sure, me too, but  theaocp   May-30-10 06:08 PM   #70 
           - Oh, my version of socialism would be a hybrid system  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 06:44 PM   #73 
           - Ultimately, I'd try to change the labels  theaocp   May-30-10 06:49 PM   #74 
           - And you have brought out the very difference in the two systems.  bobbolink   May-30-10 06:50 PM   #76 
           - I think people are inherently both  theaocp   May-30-10 07:54 PM   #91 
           - The economic question is about who creates money and allocates it, to what end.  JackRiddler   May-31-10 12:54 AM   #152 
  - horse hocky  Scruffy1   May-30-10 05:45 PM   #62 
     - That's no reason to not have regulations  theaocp   May-30-10 05:48 PM   #63 
        - make up your mind  William Z. Foster   May-30-10 09:29 PM   #107 
           - I disagree that regulation of capitalism is a pipe dream  theaocp   May-30-10 09:42 PM   #114 
              - we have that now  William Z. Foster   May-30-10 09:52 PM   #118 
                 - We do not have that now  theaocp   May-31-10 07:35 AM   #163 
                 - sure  William Z. Foster   May-31-10 03:52 PM   #236 
                 - YES! Normally I won't repeat another poster's point  socialist_n_TN   May-31-10 10:17 AM   #189 
  - I lean lefter the older I get. GREAT post!!!!!!!  kestrel91316   May-30-10 05:26 PM   #59 
  - I've heard of lean beef, but lean kestrel????  bobbolink   May-30-10 06:51 PM   #78 
  - I feed the poor, Im called a saint. I ask why the poor have no food, Im called a communist.  bobbolink   May-30-10 05:51 PM   #64 
  - Great quote bobbo  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 06:55 PM   #81 
  - John Maynard Keynes defined capitalism as...  Scruffy1   May-30-10 05:52 PM   #65 
  - K&R!  me b zola   May-30-10 06:07 PM   #68 
  - i'm proud to call myself a socialist democrat.  DesertFlower   May-30-10 06:07 PM   #69 
  - Lt. Col. Matthew Andrew Markinson:  WyoHiker   May-30-10 06:39 PM   #72 
  - K&R!  onestepforward   May-30-10 06:51 PM   #77 
  - An even 100.  Greyhound   May-30-10 06:52 PM   #79 
  - We had an anti-Socialist visit the group  rpannier   May-30-10 06:55 PM   #80 
     - Seems to be 20 or 21  Greyhound   May-30-10 07:20 PM   #85 
  - Recommend  xchrom   May-30-10 07:23 PM   #86 
  - the invisible hand of the free market will clean up the gulf  datasuspect   May-30-10 07:27 PM   #87 
  - D'accord, mon ami........  marmar   May-30-10 07:47 PM   #90 
  - I'm a socialist and PROUD OF IT  Kievan Rus   May-30-10 07:56 PM   #92 
  - k  defendandprotect   May-30-10 08:08 PM   #95 
  - where has socialism worked?  mynameiswhat   May-30-10 08:37 PM   #98 
  - I always counter that by asking  noamnety   May-30-10 08:55 PM   #102 
  - +1  readmoreoften   May-30-10 08:58 PM   #104 
  - yes  William Z. Foster   May-30-10 09:41 PM   #113 
  - well i guess i would say tha some sort of capitalism built this country up  mynameiswhat   May-30-10 09:51 PM   #117 
     - And yet, you haven't acknowledged at whose expense.  noamnety   May-30-10 09:59 PM   #120 
     - so how would socialism have changed that?  mynameiswhat   May-30-10 10:05 PM   #122 
        - "we've got ours."  noamnety   May-30-10 10:13 PM   #125 
           - do you think this country would be better off if we started out with socialism rather than  mynameiswhat   May-30-10 10:18 PM   #127 
              - Yep.  noamnety   May-30-10 10:24 PM   #131 
                 - while i agree that corporations have too much power.  mynameiswhat   May-30-10 10:28 PM   #134 
                    - Can you define "best" country?  noamnety   May-30-10 10:38 PM   #136 
                    - By best country i mean that this country give everyone the opportunity to succeed.  mynameiswhat   May-30-10 10:41 PM   #137 
                       - First off, we do not have the best upward mobility index. Check your stats.  noamnety   May-30-10 10:52 PM   #139 
                          - More on the lack of upward mobility in America  noamnety   May-30-10 10:59 PM   #140 
                    - "They" built?  Dr.Phool   May-31-10 06:35 AM   #160 
                       - yeah, maybe some should read history  newspeak   May-31-10 02:05 PM   #229 
     - Define best  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 10:46 PM   #138 
     - Best What?!!?  Dr.Phool   May-31-10 06:30 AM   #159 
        - Said poster just got DROPPED . . .  HughBeaumont   May-31-10 10:00 AM   #182 
  - Where has it existed without the capitalists waging war on it, pushing into war communism?  readmoreoften   May-30-10 08:57 PM   #103 
  - It's the closest thing now to pure Stalinism  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 10:20 PM   #128 
  - in the United States  William Z. Foster   May-30-10 09:31 PM   #109 
  - Nowhere...  Imajika   May-30-10 10:06 PM   #123 
  - I love how you introduce your own nonsensical qualifier to what socialism is...  liberation   May-30-10 11:31 PM   #144 
  - I'd assumed we were talking real socialism here..  Imajika   May-31-10 12:17 AM   #150 
  - And who is it  Enthusiast   May-31-10 09:58 AM   #181 
     - People that think Cuba is a good model?  Imajika   May-31-10 11:14 AM   #201 
        - Name one....nt  Enthusiast   May-31-10 12:16 PM   #210 
           - I am not calling out people here...  Imajika   May-31-10 01:57 PM   #227 
  - Norway is a socialist-left country  SocialistLez   May-31-10 12:18 PM   #211 
  - I'm a Democratic Socialist, not that that matters in America. n/t  deutsey   May-30-10 08:41 PM   #99 
  - Please tell me this person isn't serious? NT  HillGal   May-30-10 08:52 PM   #100 
  - He seems very serious to me  MrScorpio   May-30-10 09:30 PM   #108 
     - Silly me for not wanting to aspire to be like countries that have killed hundreds of  HillGal   May-30-10 09:50 PM   #116 
        - Your talking about state communism. I'm talking about Democratic Socialism. Know the difference? nt  Union Yes   May-30-10 09:55 PM   #119 
        - Semantics. NT  HillGal   May-30-10 10:03 PM   #121 
           - That's bullshit...............  socialist_n_TN   May-30-10 10:26 PM   #133 
           - that was ignorant and intentionally dismissive  fascisthunter   May-31-10 10:40 AM   #192 
           - FAIL  ceile   May-31-10 11:33 AM   #205 
        - I didn't know that the socialist Danes and Norwegians were such blood thirsty savages  MrScorpio   May-30-10 10:21 PM   #130 
        - As a % of population, we killed more native Americans than the Cultural Revolution and Stalin's  liberation   May-30-10 11:40 PM   #146 
           - I don't disagree one iota  MrScorpio   May-30-10 11:48 PM   #147 
              - I wasn't disagreeing with you either ;-), I just get tired of the overwhelming stench of hypocrisy.  liberation   May-31-10 12:06 AM   #148 
                 - Damn Skippy nt  MrScorpio   May-31-10 12:10 AM   #149 
                 - What Liberation said  Stuckinthebush   May-31-10 07:27 AM   #162 
                 - what a great post...  mikita   May-31-10 09:27 AM   #176 
                 - Nice post! nt  Enthusiast   May-31-10 10:06 AM   #186 
                 - great post(s)  dana_b   May-31-10 10:46 AM   #193 
        - You mean France, Greece, Italy, and most of the EU?  JackRiddler   May-31-10 12:50 AM   #151 
        - You are talking about totalitarian Communism.  freddie mertz   May-31-10 08:53 AM   #169 
        - K & R. I wish we had a truly socialist or "labor" type party here. nt.  freddie mertz   May-31-10 08:54 AM   #171 
        - Again who is it that  Enthusiast   May-31-10 10:03 AM   #184 
           - Prisons, Inc.  HughBeaumont   May-31-10 11:21 AM   #203 
  - K&R  susanr516   May-30-10 09:01 PM   #105 
  - I have embraced it....  blue sky at night   May-30-10 09:09 PM   #106 
  - Agreed in whole. I always like to point out that the "freedom TO" should ALWAYs...  JanMichael   May-30-10 09:38 PM   #112 
  - Eugene V. Debs - 2012 !  IDemo   May-30-10 09:49 PM   #115 
  - Yes, but there's one thing you didn't mention.  Kablooie   May-30-10 10:11 PM   #124 
  - K&R....and I'm proud to 'stand tall' right next to you....n/t  unkachuck   May-30-10 10:20 PM   #129 
  - Solidarity Unka!  Union Yes   May-30-10 11:31 PM   #143 
  - K&R I'm not a purist but I'm moving that direction all the time  TheKentuckian   May-30-10 10:29 PM   #135 
  - K and R  BrklynLiberal   May-30-10 11:25 PM   #141 
  - K&R.  Karmadillo   May-30-10 11:31 PM   #145 
  - kr  inna   May-31-10 01:37 AM   #153 
  - ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE.....That French Fella Dumas  opihimoimoi   May-31-10 02:14 AM   #156 
  - Democratic Socialist standing tall here. I've witnessed it in several countries and am baffled as  Stardust   May-31-10 03:16 AM   #157 
  - +1  RedCloud   May-31-10 05:18 AM   #158 
  - K & Highly rec'd nt  Christa   May-31-10 07:19 AM   #161 
  - K & R.  HughBeaumont   May-31-10 07:40 AM   #164 
  - We noticed the same thing, HughBeaumont.  Enthusiast   May-31-10 10:11 AM   #187 
     - One's already been dropped, I see.  HughBeaumont   May-31-10 11:16 AM   #202 
  - Thanks for the reminder.  Enthusiast   May-31-10 08:42 AM   #166 
  - AGREED ! Socialism...and look at the German President's statement ...truer than true  RedState_progressive   May-31-10 08:47 AM   #167 
  - This is how it gets started. nt  Enthusiast   May-31-10 10:13 AM   #188 
  - he has to resign for telling the truth?! ridiculous. n/t  dana_b   May-31-10 10:50 AM   #195 
  - K and R thanks for posting this.  Stuart G   May-31-10 08:48 AM   #168 
  - K&R. nt  OnyxCollie   May-31-10 09:29 AM   #177 
  - Socialism will provide for all, capitalism will provide for the few  4dsc   May-31-10 09:46 AM   #179 
  - paste this on to billboards in every city!  Rosa Luxemburg   May-31-10 09:51 AM   #180 
  - big K&R!  dana_b   May-31-10 10:52 AM   #196 
  - I will pass this on to my Socialist friends.  alfredo   May-31-10 10:59 AM   #197 
  - I used to be a Democrat, but...  texas_ex   May-31-10 01:56 PM   #226 
  - Free Enterprise NOT Capitalism  november3rd   May-31-10 02:52 PM   #231 
  - Standing tall! Sorry to late to rec!  earth mom   May-31-10 03:02 PM   #233 
  - I've always thought of myself as a moderate  ribrepin   May-31-10 03:05 PM   #234 
  - I've been saying this for YEARS...  BanTheGOP   May-31-10 03:37 PM   #235 
  - Socialism seems undemocratic as pure capitalism...  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 03:57 PM   #238 
  - Democratic Socialism through representative government elected by free and FAIR elections.  Union Yes   May-31-10 10:35 PM   #251 
     - if socialism worked in Sweden they wouldn't be having to...  Green_Lantern   Jun-01-10 10:46 AM   #255 
  - I'm by far not a socialist because I believe in private ownership  Green_Lantern   May-31-10 04:28 PM   #245 
  - +1 Too late to recommend, but kicking anyway.  Raksha   May-31-10 04:43 PM   #246 
  - Proud socialist! Reagonomics fucked us all.  Initech   May-31-10 08:42 PM   #248 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours  Echo In Light   Jun-01-10 10:46 AM   #256 
  - Kill Capitalism  blindpig   Jun-01-10 11:49 AM   #259 
 

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