Reply #97: Well I am not shocked that they reached the systems analysis

[nadinbrzezinski]

level conclusion that some of us are reaching independently.

Granted, they benefit from it, so change for them is toxic. But once you realize where we are as a world wide oil based civilization, that is what we need to change.

And they will not lead the parade on that. This parade needs to start, where you suggested, taxes, tax them to pay for all the damage they've caused...

But after that we need to have system wide changes in our GLOBAL civilization.

IMO we are at a point where we will be forced to do that, and this is mulfi factorial.

1.- People are realizing at a systems level just how sickening our dependence is... they did not make it up, our economy, a world economy, depends on the stuff and we need to change that.

2.- We are at peak oil, so it is going to be increasingly difficult to do this extraction and exploration. Reality is that it will not be the rules of the market place, and we have plenty of fans here, that will change that. It will simply be unavoidable and we will need to do what needs doing.

3.- GOVERNMENTS need to get involved, but in adversarial capacity.

4.- We need a slew of technologies that don't exist today. Hell, even a solar panel requires the black stuff to produce.

But in my mind realizing just how damn dependent we are is a first, but critical step. And to them it is propaganda.... but it is one of those rare cases where they are telling you the truth. THINK, what did you use today that wasn't touched by the black stuff in any shape, way or form? And that is a critical but essential step...