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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 10:00 AM
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37. Read the "Peter Principle".
"in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence". Basically it says that if a worker is good at a job he will be promoted until he reaches a job that he is incompetent to handle its duties and all work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence.
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  -Did you ever work some place where they promoted the best workers into supervisory positions? NNN0LHI  May-30-10 12:59 AM   #0 
  - No and back in my salad days, there was no way  Cleita   May-30-10 01:01 AM   #1 
  - A woman who hired into Ford about the same time I did is the plant manager there now  NNN0LHI   May-30-10 01:04 AM   #2 
     - When was that? Things opened up for women in management only  Cleita   May-30-10 01:12 AM   #3 
        - She hired in with me in 1973. I don't recall the month?  NNN0LHI   May-30-10 05:16 AM   #22 
           - Both you and CLeita are wrong. This one knows it wasn't always this way. nt  raccoon   May-31-10 12:54 PM   #61 
  - It was usually the suck ups that got promoted. n/t  ohheckyeah   May-30-10 01:17 AM   #4 
  - Yep. Those with their lips firmly affixed to the boss's ass got the nod.  LibDemAlways   May-30-10 01:31 AM   #6 
  - And they wonder why good  ohheckyeah   May-30-10 01:33 AM   #7 
  - Yep, unless I was the one doing the promoting  Lorien   May-30-10 01:43 AM   #8 
  - Bingo!  jillan   May-30-10 02:12 AM   #10 
  - Or where my son works the boss's girl friend  Bitwit1234   May-30-10 06:51 AM   #23 
  - This is my experience:  olegramps   May-30-10 08:42 AM   #24 
     - My software engineer husband worked for sociology majors with  LibDemAlways   May-30-10 10:29 AM   #43 
     - This is my experience also.  AdHocSolver   May-31-10 02:14 AM   #47 
  - I am a stay-at-home mom...  CoffeeCat   May-30-10 01:24 AM   #5 
  - No. The talent decreased as you went up the corporate pecking order.  AdHocSolver   May-30-10 02:10 AM   #9 
  - Yeah, where I work it's based on merit...  Violet_Crumble   May-30-10 02:17 AM   #11 
  - 12 years ago when I entered the "adult" workforce  TlalocW   May-30-10 02:23 AM   #12 
  - I hate being lied to, and it happens all the time. My husband's  LibDemAlways   May-30-10 10:18 AM   #42 
     - I suggest your husband sign up with a select group of agencies that place people with his skills.  AdHocSolver   May-31-10 03:33 AM   #49 
        - The first thing he did was sign up with a bunch of contract houses.  LibDemAlways   May-31-10 10:47 AM   #51 
  - Are you kidding!? The merit system is dead, it is all about politics  Rex   May-30-10 02:29 AM   #13 
  - Ever hear of the Peter Principle? People keep getting promoted until they reach a position  pundaint   May-30-10 02:48 AM   #14 
  - You might enjoy this: "The Peter Principle Revisited: A Computational Study (Two solutions)"  bananas   May-30-10 02:56 AM   #15 
     - Couldn't read it, but from the abstract it sounds a little like that study where it was shown that  pundaint   May-30-10 04:11 AM   #18 
  - I'm stunned that ANYBODY thinks the BP management is good for anything  TheKentuckian   May-30-10 03:21 AM   #16 
  - This is especially true at universities  DeltaLitProf   May-30-10 03:37 AM   #17 
  - I hate to write this as it will seem like I am a defender of corporate types.  Dr Morbius   May-30-10 04:53 AM   #19 
  - my experience is that suck-ups, spies, & machiavellian types do well in the  Hannah Bell   May-30-10 04:55 AM   #20 
  - Where I worked on the railroad, it was the finks, the suck-ups, and the stoopid.  Dr.Phool   May-30-10 05:09 AM   #21 
  - I also worked for a railroad (Penn Central/Conrail)  Urban Prairie   May-30-10 09:18 AM   #28 
  - Back in the day  immune   May-30-10 09:10 AM   #25 
  - The Army.  tabasco   May-30-10 09:12 AM   #26 
  - The 'Peter principle'. The best workers need to be Lead/Fore persons.  Edweird   May-30-10 09:18 AM   #27 
  - I've seen that most often in large, publicly-traded organizations like banks  slackmaster   May-30-10 09:20 AM   #29 
  - Sometimes, but not always  pipi_k   May-30-10 09:23 AM   #30 
  - Hell no.  TransitJohn   May-30-10 09:24 AM   #31 
  - Usually the back stabbers and rats and the ones who took credit  Hubert Flottz   May-30-10 09:26 AM   #32 
  - So that explains it  madokie   May-30-10 09:31 AM   #33 
  - Weren't you a working supervisor though?  NNN0LHI   May-30-10 10:16 AM   #41 
     - Sometimes yes  madokie   May-30-10 01:09 PM   #45 
  - Sometimes  treestar   May-30-10 09:34 AM   #34 
  - well ya. i had a number of places i worked where the best, hardest worker got the promotion  seabeyond   May-30-10 09:35 AM   #35 
  - I work in a government/civil service position  Madam Mossfern   May-30-10 09:49 AM   #36 
  - Read the "Peter Principle".  Synicus Maximus   May-30-10 10:00 AM   #37 
  - The business world has change so much since then, I don't think it holds true any longer.  Greyhound   May-31-10 01:11 PM   #63 
  - No. I worked for the State of PA. The supervisors had some previous  old mark   May-30-10 10:01 AM   #38 
  - Suckups and Fuckups become supervisors.  undeterred   May-30-10 10:06 AM   #39 
  - Nope.  Arkana   May-30-10 10:07 AM   #40 
  - Actually, yes. The place I work now.  johnaries   May-30-10 10:47 AM   #44 
  - Yes - the military. nt  kelly1mm   May-30-10 03:38 PM   #46 
  - absolutely.  fleabert   May-31-10 02:23 AM   #48 
  - Find this less true if you're a person of color, tolerance level of incompetence is low and sponsors  uponit7771   May-31-10 04:24 AM   #50 
  - just wow? play the race card much?... I've non-color incompetence promoted due to old boys network  HipChick   May-31-10 10:59 AM   #54 
     - It's not a fucking card.  Raineyb   May-31-10 05:28 PM   #67 
  - Yes, once  Ohio Joe   May-31-10 10:55 AM   #52 
  - Well, as a non-degreed accounting-type person, I have always been in small businesses  catzies   May-31-10 10:57 AM   #53 
  - I've worked in two family-owned businesses. Impossible to  LibDemAlways   May-31-10 11:30 AM   #55 
  - Nope - surpervisors were almost inevitably failures  HughMoran   May-31-10 11:32 AM   #56 
  - It was usually the drinking buddies and coke suppliers.  alfredo   May-31-10 11:38 AM   #57 
  - Generally speaking the best rose, but not as quickly or as high as ass kissing idiots.  ThomWV   May-31-10 12:24 PM   #58 
  - Way back when I worked for GTE  hobbit709   May-31-10 12:29 PM   #59 
  - No  ampad   May-31-10 12:52 PM   #60 
  - Yup.  woofless   May-31-10 12:59 PM   #62 
  - The only major promotion I've seen at my recent job...  W_HAMILTON   May-31-10 01:14 PM   #64 
  - Generally NO, but not absolutely  Populist_Prole   May-31-10 01:34 PM   #65 
  - I am a supervisor  Brooklyns_Finest   May-31-10 02:01 PM   #66 
  - my experience is the same as yours. nt  xchrom   May-31-10 05:31 PM   #68 

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