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Sun May-30-10 02:29 AM
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| 13. Are you kidding!? The merit system is dead, it is all about politics |
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and who can kiss the most ass. Reason our country is so fucked up imo. Got off the gold standard and kicked the merit system to the curb for brownie points!
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| -Did you ever work some place where they promoted the best workers into supervisory positions? |
NNN0LHI |
May-30-10 12:59 AM |
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No and back in my salad days, there was no way |
Cleita |
May-30-10 01:01 AM |
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A woman who hired into Ford about the same time I did is the plant manager there now |
NNN0LHI |
May-30-10 01:04 AM |
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When was that? Things opened up for women in management only |
Cleita |
May-30-10 01:12 AM |
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She hired in with me in 1973. I don't recall the month? |
NNN0LHI |
May-30-10 05:16 AM |
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Both you and CLeita are wrong. This one knows it wasn't always this way. nt |
raccoon |
May-31-10 12:54 PM |
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It was usually the suck ups that got promoted. n/t |
ohheckyeah |
May-30-10 01:17 AM |
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Yep. Those with their lips firmly affixed to the boss's ass got the nod. |
LibDemAlways |
May-30-10 01:31 AM |
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And they wonder why good |
ohheckyeah |
May-30-10 01:33 AM |
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Yep, unless I was the one doing the promoting |
Lorien |
May-30-10 01:43 AM |
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Bingo! |
jillan |
May-30-10 02:12 AM |
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Or where my son works the boss's girl friend |
Bitwit1234 |
May-30-10 06:51 AM |
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This is my experience: |
olegramps |
May-30-10 08:42 AM |
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My software engineer husband worked for sociology majors with |
LibDemAlways |
May-30-10 10:29 AM |
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This is my experience also. |
AdHocSolver |
May-31-10 02:14 AM |
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I am a stay-at-home mom... |
CoffeeCat |
May-30-10 01:24 AM |
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No. The talent decreased as you went up the corporate pecking order. |
AdHocSolver |
May-30-10 02:10 AM |
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Yeah, where I work it's based on merit... |
Violet_Crumble |
May-30-10 02:17 AM |
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12 years ago when I entered the "adult" workforce |
TlalocW |
May-30-10 02:23 AM |
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I hate being lied to, and it happens all the time. My husband's |
LibDemAlways |
May-30-10 10:18 AM |
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I suggest your husband sign up with a select group of agencies that place people with his skills. |
AdHocSolver |
May-31-10 03:33 AM |
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The first thing he did was sign up with a bunch of contract houses. |
LibDemAlways |
May-31-10 10:47 AM |
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Are you kidding!? The merit system is dead, it is all about politics |
Rex |
May-30-10 02:29 AM |
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Ever hear of the Peter Principle? People keep getting promoted until they reach a position |
pundaint |
May-30-10 02:48 AM |
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You might enjoy this: "The Peter Principle Revisited: A Computational Study (Two solutions)" |
bananas |
May-30-10 02:56 AM |
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Couldn't read it, but from the abstract it sounds a little like that study where it was shown that |
pundaint |
May-30-10 04:11 AM |
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I'm stunned that ANYBODY thinks the BP management is good for anything |
TheKentuckian |
May-30-10 03:21 AM |
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This is especially true at universities |
DeltaLitProf |
May-30-10 03:37 AM |
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I hate to write this as it will seem like I am a defender of corporate types. |
Dr Morbius |
May-30-10 04:53 AM |
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my experience is that suck-ups, spies, & machiavellian types do well in the |
Hannah Bell |
May-30-10 04:55 AM |
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Where I worked on the railroad, it was the finks, the suck-ups, and the stoopid. |
Dr.Phool |
May-30-10 05:09 AM |
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I also worked for a railroad (Penn Central/Conrail) |
Urban Prairie |
May-30-10 09:18 AM |
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Back in the day |
immune |
May-30-10 09:10 AM |
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The Army. |
tabasco |
May-30-10 09:12 AM |
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The 'Peter principle'. The best workers need to be Lead/Fore persons. |
Edweird |
May-30-10 09:18 AM |
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I've seen that most often in large, publicly-traded organizations like banks |
slackmaster |
May-30-10 09:20 AM |
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Sometimes, but not always |
pipi_k |
May-30-10 09:23 AM |
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Hell no. |
TransitJohn |
May-30-10 09:24 AM |
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Usually the back stabbers and rats and the ones who took credit |
Hubert Flottz |
May-30-10 09:26 AM |
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So that explains it |
madokie |
May-30-10 09:31 AM |
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Weren't you a working supervisor though? |
NNN0LHI |
May-30-10 10:16 AM |
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Sometimes yes |
madokie |
May-30-10 01:09 PM |
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Sometimes |
treestar |
May-30-10 09:34 AM |
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well ya. i had a number of places i worked where the best, hardest worker got the promotion |
seabeyond |
May-30-10 09:35 AM |
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I work in a government/civil service position |
Madam Mossfern |
May-30-10 09:49 AM |
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Read the "Peter Principle". |
Synicus Maximus |
May-30-10 10:00 AM |
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The business world has change so much since then, I don't think it holds true any longer. |
Greyhound |
May-31-10 01:11 PM |
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No. I worked for the State of PA. The supervisors had some previous |
old mark |
May-30-10 10:01 AM |
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Suckups and Fuckups become supervisors. |
undeterred |
May-30-10 10:06 AM |
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Nope. |
Arkana |
May-30-10 10:07 AM |
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Actually, yes. The place I work now. |
johnaries |
May-30-10 10:47 AM |
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Yes - the military. nt |
kelly1mm |
May-30-10 03:38 PM |
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absolutely. |
fleabert |
May-31-10 02:23 AM |
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Find this less true if you're a person of color, tolerance level of incompetence is low and sponsors |
uponit7771 |
May-31-10 04:24 AM |
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just wow? play the race card much?... I've non-color incompetence promoted due to old boys network |
HipChick |
May-31-10 10:59 AM |
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It's not a fucking card. |
Raineyb |
May-31-10 05:28 PM |
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Yes, once |
Ohio Joe |
May-31-10 10:55 AM |
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Well, as a non-degreed accounting-type person, I have always been in small businesses |
catzies |
May-31-10 10:57 AM |
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I've worked in two family-owned businesses. Impossible to |
LibDemAlways |
May-31-10 11:30 AM |
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Nope - surpervisors were almost inevitably failures |
HughMoran |
May-31-10 11:32 AM |
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It was usually the drinking buddies and coke suppliers. |
alfredo |
May-31-10 11:38 AM |
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Generally speaking the best rose, but not as quickly or as high as ass kissing idiots. |
ThomWV |
May-31-10 12:24 PM |
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Way back when I worked for GTE |
hobbit709 |
May-31-10 12:29 PM |
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No |
ampad |
May-31-10 12:52 PM |
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Yup. |
woofless |
May-31-10 12:59 PM |
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The only major promotion I've seen at my recent job... |
W_HAMILTON |
May-31-10 01:14 PM |
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Generally NO, but not absolutely |
Populist_Prole |
May-31-10 01:34 PM |
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I am a supervisor |
Brooklyns_Finest |
May-31-10 02:01 PM |
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my experience is the same as yours. nt |
xchrom |
May-31-10 05:31 PM |
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