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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:27 PM
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7. Obviously, having the gun emboldened him to commit the crime.
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  -Armed Robber steals $4 pack of socks, gets life in prison The Straight Story  May-23-10 11:14 PM   #0 
  - Maybe some people are well off because of an attempt  RandomThoughts   May-23-10 11:16 PM   #1 
  - Access to a gun ruined this man's life.  sharesunited   May-23-10 11:20 PM   #2 
  - Using the gun during the commission of yet another crime  Riftaxe   May-23-10 11:22 PM   #4 
  - Criminal behavior ruined this man's life.  proteus_lives   May-23-10 11:23 PM   #5 
  - Obviously, having the gun emboldened him to commit the crime.  sharesunited   May-23-10 11:27 PM   #7 
     - Never going stop trying to get that fail-wagon moving, huh?  proteus_lives   May-24-10 01:03 AM   #17 
  - No, whatever reduced him to having to steal socks and underwear...  Scuba   May-24-10 05:28 AM   #23 
  - The same forces that invented "zero-tolerance"...  Orsino   May-24-10 09:33 AM   #57 
  - I believe in zero-tolerance for violent crimes.  Statistical   May-24-10 09:55 AM   #63 
     - Zero-tolerance is always an excuse...  Orsino   May-24-10 09:58 AM   #64 
        - That is where we differ. Long and severe IS the appropriate punishment for violent criminals.  Statistical   May-24-10 10:04 AM   #67 
           - Zero-tolerance would mean stupid stuff like life imprisonment without parole...  Orsino   May-24-10 10:48 AM   #74 
              - If criminal doesn't have a gun at the crime they CAN'T shoot a victim  Statistical   May-24-10 10:55 AM   #75 
                 - I can't buy that theory...  Orsino   May-24-10 11:21 AM   #79 
                    - No buden on law abiding citzen.  Statistical   May-24-10 11:27 AM   #80 
                       - Anyone, to include bystanders and law enforcement...  Orsino   May-24-10 11:30 AM   #81 
                          - In a legal sense he defined his intent by bringing a weapon to the crime.  Statistical   May-24-10 11:35 AM   #82 
                             - Yes, it's a "pretty simple concept."  Orsino   May-24-10 12:03 PM   #83 
  - Apparently, he could afford a gun /nt  jberryhill   May-24-10 01:55 PM   #90 
     - He could have bought a complete set of halfway decent clothes for what he paid for the gun  slackmaster   May-25-10 11:21 AM   # 
  - Fool  Rebubula   May-24-10 11:04 AM   #77 
  - He'd have gotten exactly the same sentence had he used a toy or fake gun instead of a real one  slackmaster   May-25-10 11:13 AM   #94 
  - All this for $4.00? Idiotic  lefty2000   May-23-10 11:21 PM   #3 
  - This was more about the gun than $4 socks. nt  Lucky Luciano   May-23-10 11:30 PM   #8 
  - Maybe you wouldn't feel that way if you'd had the gun pointed at you.  salguine   May-24-10 08:43 AM   #34 
  - I see it as being idiotic on the part of the robber  slackmaster   May-24-10 09:26 AM   #47 
  - So we should just ignore the fact that this guy  Goblinmonger   May-24-10 10:01 AM   #65 
  - Fear of freedom?  proteus_lives   May-23-10 11:25 PM   #6 
  - The former- fear  depakid   May-23-10 11:35 PM   #9 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-10 01:02 AM   #16 
        - Fear is exactly what promotes this sort of deal- it's also behind the zero tolerance crap  depakid   May-24-10 08:40 AM   #33 
  - sorry i'm done feeling sorry for armed robbers  pitohui   May-23-10 11:53 PM   #10 
  - Shot at by crack heads?  asdjrocky   May-24-10 08:57 AM   #39 
  - Sounds like he is a fucking idiot.  LostInAnomie   May-23-10 11:59 PM   #11 
  - +1 n/t  tammywammy   May-24-10 12:26 AM   #14 
  - pretty simple.. dont do the crime you dont do the time.....that being said...  ORDagnabbit   May-24-10 12:20 AM   #12 
  - "armed robber"  Vickers   May-24-10 12:24 AM   #13 
  - it's because he is a repeat offender, but i want to know what he was in prison the first time  JI7   May-24-10 12:28 AM   #15 
  - Fla Dept of Corr website - offender search nt  Obamanaut   May-24-10 01:12 AM   #19 
  - And Murkans wonder why the USA has more people behind bars than any other country  Cali_Democrat   May-24-10 01:04 AM   #18 
  - Probably because they use guns  Dorian Gray   May-24-10 05:49 AM   #24 
  - It's partly because we have more violent criminals than any other country  slackmaster   May-24-10 09:28 AM   #48 
  - Drug crimes.  Goblinmonger   May-24-10 10:02 AM   #66 
  - Remove non-violent drug offenders from prison.  Statistical   May-24-10 10:36 AM   #71 
     - Yes.  krabigirl   May-24-10 12:04 PM   #84 
  - locking up armed robbers is now un-liberal?  dionysus   May-25-10 11:21 AM   #96 
  - If that gun was in your face, would you care what he was trying to steal?  Dreamer Tatum   May-24-10 01:13 AM   #20 
  - I had a gun pointed right at my face.  byrok   May-24-10 07:22 AM   #27 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-10 07:41 AM   #29 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-10 08:03 AM   #30 
     - Give me the name and local  michreject   May-24-10 08:28 AM   #31 
        - The statement was a written deposition...  byrok   May-24-10 08:55 AM   #38 
        - Don't Proffer Any More Information On This.  Paladin   May-24-10 09:17 AM   #42 
           - You're right.  byrok   May-24-10 09:25 AM   #44 
              - You Are Most Welcome. Try To Maintain That Healthy Perspective. (n/t)  Paladin   May-24-10 10:35 AM   #70 
        - Some jurisdictions allow a victim impact statement @ sentencing. n/t  proudohioan   May-24-10 09:29 AM   #52 
           - That is exactly right. n/t  byrok   May-24-10 09:31 AM   #55 
     - You are way off-base.  Dappleganger   May-24-10 09:35 AM   #58 
        - Thank you.  byrok   May-24-10 09:43 AM   #60 
     - The state of FL does not believe in rehab.  Dappleganger   May-24-10 09:26 AM   #46 
     - As someone who has a friend doing prison time for robberies he committed for drug money,  slackmaster   May-24-10 09:29 AM   #53 
  - What these "law and order" authoritarians fail to understand is that as we move  Greyhound   May-24-10 04:32 AM   #21 
  - No penalty for murder should be death penalty.  Statistical   May-24-10 08:45 AM   #35 
  - Robbery is not the same thing as petty theft  slackmaster   May-24-10 09:30 AM   #54 
     - +1. Very important distinction.  Statistical   May-24-10 09:49 AM   #61 
     - Bottom line however is that this is still a pety crime given these facts  depakid   May-24-10 12:09 PM   #85 
        - No it isn't.  Statistical   May-24-10 12:27 PM   #86 
        - Under these facts it certainly was!  depakid   May-24-10 12:33 PM   #87 
           - "guy shows a gun" = threat of violence with weapon during an armed robbery.  Statistical   May-24-10 12:38 PM   #88 
           - He used a threat of deadly force to keep from getting grabbed  slackmaster   May-25-10 11:08 AM   #92 
        - He didn't get life in prison for this one crime  slackmaster   May-25-10 11:09 AM   #93 
     - You and Statistical make my point right here.  Greyhound   May-24-10 01:44 PM   #89 
  - Won't find me crying over this one.  Nailzberg   May-24-10 05:07 AM   #22 
  - Horrible decision making and there you go.  jp11   May-24-10 06:43 AM   #25 
  - He didn't get prison for $4 socks. He got prison for an armed robbery.  Statistical   May-24-10 07:22 AM   #26 
  - if only he stayed in school and eventually gotten a job on Wall Street  Blue_Tires   May-24-10 07:34 AM   #28 
  - That's right.  SammyWinstonJack   May-24-10 11:12 AM   #78 
  - Sock problem permanently solved. n/t  NorthCarolina   May-24-10 08:36 AM   #32 
  - Reading this thread and the responses makes one realize why America's headed for third world status  depakid   May-24-10 08:49 AM   #36 
  - Because there are people who are stupid enough to throw away their freedom for some cheap socks  slackmaster   May-24-10 09:31 AM   #56 
     - No- because the knee jerk reactions are both very costly and evince a nation that no longer cares  depakid   May-24-10 10:39 AM   #72 
  - Good.  Nye Bevan   May-24-10 08:53 AM   #37 
  - Just like in states with the death penetly, people kill less?  asdjrocky   May-24-10 09:01 AM   #40 
     - That's one of the reasons I oppose the death penalty  Nye Bevan   May-24-10 09:11 AM   #41 
     - I agree and disagree...  pipi_k   May-24-10 09:37 AM   #59 
     - Murder is rarely a crime of opportunity.  Statistical   May-24-10 09:53 AM   #62 
        - Good points. In the 50s and 60s the criminal gangs in the UK used to pat each other down  Nye Bevan   May-24-10 10:32 AM   #68 
           - That is a major reason why I feel felony murder statute is a good one.  Statistical   May-24-10 10:35 AM   #69 
  - Wouldn't have made any difference if he had got away empty handed  NNN0LHI   May-24-10 09:22 AM   #43 
  - Very true.  Dappleganger   May-24-10 09:28 AM   #49 
  - The value of the items that the robber took is totally irrelevant. Robbery is by definition violent.  slackmaster   May-24-10 09:25 AM   #45 
  - This thread is a great example of the reading comprehension of people on DU.  Dappleganger   May-24-10 09:28 AM   #50 
  - Armed robbery where all he got away with was a pack of socks  Renew Deal   May-24-10 09:29 AM   #51 
  - Why are we arguing about his sentence?  Taitertots   May-24-10 10:46 AM   #73 
  - The benefits to sociey from better prison rehabilitation would be enormous  Nye Bevan   May-24-10 10:58 AM   #76 
     - Or, after several periods of incarceration rehab wears off. nt  Obamanaut   May-25-10 11:40 AM   #98 
  - I think the moral of this story is don't go out and commit armed robbery  no limit   May-24-10 01:57 PM   #91 
  - cheney getting away with crimes doesnt excuse armed robbery.  dionysus   May-25-10 11:18 AM   #95 
  - An inept armed robber with poor judgment about what to steal is still an armed robber.  Warren DeMontague   May-25-10 11:38 AM   #97 
  - Yeah, if I were the Juror, I would disregard the Judge  Dank Nugs   May-25-10 09:42 PM   #99 

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