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Mon May-24-10 01:01 PM
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| 51. Where I live, there's a huge divide on this issue. |
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My kids started wandering off unsupervervised at 7 or 8, as did all of the other kids in all of the other homes around me. It's just not something I worry about. In suburban and rural areas, it's as normal today as it was 40 years ago (my oldest is now 16, and my youngest 6, so my experiences are current).
Those differences are often highlighted when my children become friends with the children of commuter parents who work and grew up in the SF Bay Area, and moved to the Valley for cheaper housing and a slower lifestyle. Many of the people from larger urban areas are simply horrified by the thought that a parent would let an eight, nine, or ten year old vanish for hours at a time without any real idea where they were (we'd know, vaguely, that they were "at a friends house", or "at the park".) For people who have always lived here and grew up here, it's a normal thing. For people who moved in from larger urban areas, it's neglectful parenting.
I turned out OK. My kids seem to be doing fine.
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| -It's “Take Our Children to the Park and Leave Them There Day” |
HuckleB |
May-22-10 04:43 PM |
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No offense intended, but this is a horrifying idea |
Ruby the Liberal |
May-22-10 04:47 PM |
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Ah, but this is a fantastic idea. |
HuckleB |
May-22-10 04:48 PM |
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I definitely see the point/purpose, no question there |
Ruby the Liberal |
May-22-10 04:51 PM |
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That's your choice. |
HuckleB |
May-22-10 04:53 PM |
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Maybe yes, maybe no |
Art_from_Ark |
May-24-10 07:41 PM |
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Certainly, some areas are different. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 07:48 PM |
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It reminds me of the Carters' decision to put Amy in DC public schools |
marshall |
May-25-10 11:41 AM |
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I completely disagree. It's not like she's advocating leaving toddlers at the park alone. |
krabigirl |
May-22-10 07:07 PM |
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I don't think she meant toddlers. |
Tailormyst |
May-24-10 11:43 AM |
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It is a different day and age. A much safer one. |
Codeine |
May-23-10 11:12 AM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 12:16 PM |
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I respectfully disagree. |
Gormy Cuss |
May-24-10 11:53 AM |
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FYI Add: Child Abductions: The Hype vs. the Reality |
HuckleB |
May-22-10 05:00 PM |
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The whole focus on "stranger danger" |
moriah |
May-22-10 06:42 PM |
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One other thing re: that article |
moriah |
May-22-10 07:05 PM |
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All true, but that really doesn't address the fears that keep parents from letting their kids... |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 11:10 AM |
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And a heavily shletered kid .... |
moriah |
May-23-10 11:48 PM |
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Anecdotes are great for promoting fear. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 11:11 AM |
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Neither is ignoring risk when trying to assess it. |
moriah |
May-24-10 02:32 PM |
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Thanks for responding to something in your own mind. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 05:52 PM |
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Tried it, doesn't work |
guitar man |
May-22-10 05:16 PM |
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maybe you should take them to an out of town park |
left is right |
May-22-10 06:27 PM |
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They're sneaky that way |
awoke_in_2003 |
May-23-10 12:24 AM |
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Heh.... |
Dorian Gray |
May-24-10 12:22 PM |
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yes they are |
guitar man |
May-24-10 02:34 PM |
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I have a better one: |
Quantess |
May-22-10 06:29 PM |
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AHAHAHA! |
Codeine |
May-23-10 11:13 AM |
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While I agree with the "Free Range Kids" woman on a lot of things.... |
moriah |
May-22-10 06:31 PM |
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More like "CPS and nosey neighbor" dream day. |
krabigirl |
May-22-10 07:08 PM |
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You make a good point there too. |
moriah |
May-22-10 07:17 PM |
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Yeah, because a group of kids are so likely to watch one of them walk away with a stranger. |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 11:14 AM |
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And what could they do instead? |
moriah |
May-23-10 10:33 PM |
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WOW! |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 10:39 PM |
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Are YOU fucking insane? |
moriah |
May-24-10 01:26 AM |
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No, I'm not. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 11:10 AM |
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And if you notice, I didn't say people should lock their kids up until they turn 18. |
moriah |
May-24-10 02:03 PM |
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Keep spinning. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 05:51 PM |
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You cannot shield your child from every danger without causing a different sort of harm to them. |
Tailormyst |
May-24-10 12:27 PM |
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See post 53, and replace "you" with HuckB. n/t |
moriah |
May-24-10 02:36 PM |
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I now see your point a little more clearly |
Tailormyst |
May-25-10 07:27 AM |
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I thought I'd been pretty clear.... |
moriah |
May-25-10 11:34 AM |
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Grew up in the 70's |
Hawkowl |
May-24-10 12:49 PM |
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I grew up in the 80s. |
moriah |
May-24-10 03:21 PM |
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Again, you are the one who actually brought this up as a possibility. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 05:53 PM |
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Why can't you? |
moriah |
May-24-10 06:10 PM |
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WOW! |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 06:21 PM |
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They aren't anecdotes. They are kids. |
moriah |
May-24-10 07:00 PM |
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And another spin and turn, in an attempt to pull emotional strings rather than actually discuss. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 07:13 PM |
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Take your children to a park where there is a bar close by |
Quantess |
May-22-10 06:31 PM |
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Really, I think the age of the kids is a determining factor. |
Warren DeMontague |
May-22-10 07:15 PM |
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Even a 10 year old.... |
moriah |
May-22-10 07:24 PM |
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at 10 years old... |
awoke_in_2003 |
May-23-10 12:27 AM |
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It wasn't a different time in terms of risk. |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 11:12 AM |
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And no one is talking about leaving a five-year-old at the park. |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 11:11 AM |
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Then I guess we're all on the same page. |
Warren DeMontague |
May-23-10 05:09 PM |
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This park... |
awoke_in_2003 |
May-23-10 12:23 AM |
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Good point! |
Arugula Latte |
May-24-10 11:33 AM |
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When my 4 and 5 year olds get older, I will let them play by themselves. |
Jennicut |
May-23-10 11:11 AM |
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Memories of a free-range kid |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 11:56 AM |
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I wonder how many DUers unrecommended this. |
HuckleB |
May-23-10 11:58 AM |
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I have no issue with this. Our kids need to be able to function and play without us. |
Tailormyst |
May-24-10 11:41 AM |
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I was a free range kid... |
Scurrilous |
May-24-10 12:28 PM |
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Why make it just one day a year, make it at least a couple of days out of the week |
MadHound |
May-24-10 12:32 PM |
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Indeed! +1,000,000,000,000 |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 12:34 PM |
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I disagree with taking the cell phones away. |
Lyric |
May-24-10 12:39 PM |
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I can see the point you make, |
MadHound |
May-24-10 12:43 PM |
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To be fair, there are some advantages to technological progress. |
Lyric |
May-24-10 01:27 PM |
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This is an excellent idea |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-24-10 12:39 PM |
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Where I live, there's a huge divide on this issue. |
Xithras |
May-24-10 01:01 PM |
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We tried that. The little bastards beat us home. |
Old Troop |
May-24-10 05:59 PM |
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Do you know what a lot of parents do which they think is safer? |
Dr Morbius |
May-24-10 06:06 PM |
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True enough. |
HuckleB |
May-24-10 06:27 PM |
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We are all safer than ever. And yet parents believe the hype. And gun 'enthusiasts' push it. |
onehandle |
May-24-10 07:18 PM |
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