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Fri May-21-10 08:42 PM
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Racial Profiling in the ICE Criminal Alien ProgramThe goal of the Criminal Alien Program (CAP) is to improve safety by promoting federal - local partnerships to target serious criminal offenders for deportation. Indeed, the U.S. Congress has made clear that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) "should have no greater immigration enforcement priority than to remove deportable aliens with serious criminal histories from the United States, …" The Warren Institute’s analysis of arrest data pursuant to an ICE-local partnership in Irving, Texas demonstrates that ICE is not following Congress' mandate to focus resources on the deportation of immigrants with serious criminal histories. This study also shows that immediately after Irving, Texas law enforcement had 24-hour access (via telephone and video teleconference) to ICE in the local jail, discretionary arrests of Hispanics for petty offenses — particularly minor traffic offenses — rose dramatically. This report probes the marked rise in low-level arrests of Hispanics. Specifically, the report examines whether there was an increase in lawless behavior in the Hispanic community in Irving or whether there was a change in local policing priorities. The Warren Institute's study of arrest data finds strong evidence to support claims that Irving police engaged in racial profiling of Hispanics in order to filter them through the CAP screening system. http://www.law.berkeley.edu/files/policybrief_irving_09...
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| -Little Girl Who Challenged First Lady Is Right: Obama Is Deporting More Immigrants Than Ever |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 03:12 PM |
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My thread on the Dream Act that he said he supporeted sank like |
EFerrari |
May-20-10 03:14 PM |
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1 out of 4 DUers SUPPORT the Arizona bill. |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 03:19 PM |
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I was having a delightful day and then I posted that poll. |
blondeatlast |
May-20-10 03:40 PM |
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HAHA |
Confusious |
May-21-10 03:35 PM |
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begging your pardon |
William Z. Foster |
May-22-10 01:48 PM |
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I beg your pardon, was I talking to you? |
Confusious |
May-22-10 02:29 PM |
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not so |
William Z. Foster |
May-22-10 03:56 PM |
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As for your articles |
Confusious |
May-22-10 02:42 PM |
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thanks |
William Z. Foster |
May-22-10 04:24 PM |
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I think this was |
pintobean |
May-21-10 04:29 PM |
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The moderators locked you out of that thread |
harkadog |
May-21-10 07:39 PM |
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One of those kids is gay and his family came from Iran. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-20-10 04:16 PM |
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Wow, 28 out of 142 votes in the poll. Now that certainly is a definitive reflection |
elocs |
May-20-10 04:35 PM |
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It got locked so most couldn't vote |
dkf |
May-21-10 08:40 PM |
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Actually, it's 36 posters who chose to vote in that poll. |
TexasObserver |
May-20-10 05:48 PM |
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wrong spot |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 03:18 PM |
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That's a powerful article, video and graph |
suffragette |
May-20-10 03:23 PM |
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Another opinion posted at the exact time as you |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 03:28 PM |
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I feel that way sometimes, too |
suffragette |
May-20-10 03:47 PM |
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Is HuffPo really trying to spin that enforcing the law |
SpartanDem |
May-20-10 03:23 PM |
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Yes, they are a bunch of libs who support lawlessness & anarchy |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 03:27 PM |
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Nobody's deporting immigrants (unless they commit felonies). |
Lance_Boyle |
May-20-10 03:28 PM |
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Super, then you'll feel safer at night. |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 03:32 PM |
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Incorrect. This is beginning in my town, because of Arizona. |
Dank Nugs |
May-20-10 03:33 PM |
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that doesn't appear to say anything about legal residents being deported... n/t |
Lance_Boyle |
May-20-10 03:36 PM |
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Doesn't negate the fact that it violates the 4th n/t |
Dank Nugs |
May-20-10 03:39 PM |
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It does? How so? |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:05 PM |
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It is a blanket policy, not limited in scope to the crime the person being arrested is accused of |
Dank Nugs |
May-20-10 04:11 PM |
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Being sent back to your home country, is not criminal punishment, though. |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:18 PM |
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Yeah, along with 4 kids born in the US who have never known anything different. |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 04:19 PM |
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I believe those children should stay with their parents, but have US citizenship to return |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:24 PM |
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Protecting American children is one of the Progressive Caucus' goals with immigration reform. |
pampango |
May-21-10 07:50 AM |
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of course it is |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:45 PM |
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Are you a lawyer? |
Confusious |
May-21-10 03:59 PM |
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Not so sure about that |
suffragette |
May-20-10 03:40 PM |
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No surprise here |
Dank Nugs |
May-20-10 03:31 PM |
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Increased deportations are the result of a massive increase in border security |
grantcart |
May-20-10 03:37 PM |
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+ 1 NT |
ecstatic |
May-20-10 04:23 PM |
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1.5% of illegal aliens in the US are criminally deported each year? |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 03:59 PM |
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If they are here illegally, why would we not deport them? I'm confused as to the problem here. |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:03 PM |
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No problem, glad you feel safer |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 04:15 PM |
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Safer? What are you talking about? I said nothing about safety one way or another. |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:22 PM |
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'it's just the right thing to do' - you're all heart. |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 04:30 PM |
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Sorry, but illegal is illegal. Getting sent back isn't criminal punishment, and |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:34 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
May-20-10 04:37 PM |
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The problem is that the government |
getthefacts |
May-20-10 04:50 PM |
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Oh, the kids again. Well, y'know many kids are moved to places they don't know |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:53 PM |
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"Get over it" - disgusting. |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 04:55 PM |
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You misunderstood me |
getthefacts |
May-20-10 04:55 PM |
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This happens to children, moving to places they don't know and don't know the |
Better Today |
May-20-10 04:58 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-20-10 05:03 PM |
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I understand the first part of your comment and your |
Fruittree |
May-21-10 07:46 PM |
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By the time I was twelve, I could understand my grandmother |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 08:35 PM |
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Hey, c'mon now Bluebear. |
Spike from MN |
May-21-10 12:32 PM |
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I had to use the ol' ignore feature. |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 08:32 PM |
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The problem is that Obama promised immigration reform on his first year in office |
lunamagica |
May-20-10 07:16 PM |
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Perhaps increased deportation is part of his reform, otherwise, it's Congress that |
Better Today |
May-20-10 07:53 PM |
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Then he shouldn't have promised something he knew he couldn't deliver n/t |
lunamagica |
May-20-10 09:05 PM |
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At what cost are we going to do this? |
NYC Liberal |
May-20-10 08:00 PM |
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+ |
Bluebear |
May-20-10 08:42 PM |
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Well, unless you plan on having 100% open borders, those costs must be incurred. |
Better Today |
May-21-10 03:19 PM |
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false dichotomy |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 06:44 PM |
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I am not willing to cede any civil rights, nor should anyone else. |
NYC Liberal |
May-22-10 10:44 AM |
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So we should secure the border first, then grant blanket amnesty to those already here? |
guruoo |
May-21-10 10:30 PM |
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Sad n/t |
Catherina |
May-20-10 04:52 PM |
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Why do I even bother voting. |
glen123098 |
May-20-10 05:49 PM |
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Oh yeah, nothing wrong with separating a little girl from her mother... |
nomorenomore08 |
May-20-10 05:58 PM |
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So Bush didn't do his job and President Obama doing his is bad? |
ProSense |
May-20-10 07:40 PM |
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maybe the worst betrayal of any |
William Z. Foster |
May-20-10 09:00 PM |
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Quite a rant, wzf. |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 01:55 AM |
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I hear ya. I thinks it's slightly better though. |
upi402 |
May-21-10 02:00 AM |
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well,... |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:54 AM |
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"paramilitary swat teams ...rounding people up" ? |
upi402 |
May-21-10 12:13 PM |
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you have to be kidding |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 06:31 PM |
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your request was vague |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:15 PM |
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Are there millions of paramilitary swat teams? |
Confusious |
May-21-10 03:53 PM |
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can't tell with you, either |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 06:39 PM |
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Sure, show me some links |
Confusious |
May-21-10 07:02 PM |
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don't really know what you are talking about |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 07:41 PM |
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links |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:05 PM |
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I will post a few things |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 08:20 PM |
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the ACLU |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 08:37 PM |
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Racial Profiling |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 08:42 PM |
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Immigration Myths and Facts |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:09 PM |
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Reform, on Ice |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:16 PM |
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U.S. Border Enforcement Prioritizes Non-Violent Migrants Over Dangerous Criminals |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:22 PM |
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Enforcement Gone Wild |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:24 PM |
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Memo to President Obama and Congress |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:30 PM |
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Obama continues brutal immigrant detention policies |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:33 PM |
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Human Rights Watch |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:36 PM |
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Immigration Program Expands, Despite Abuse Record |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:47 PM |
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Whoa! Amazing research data provided. |
ShortnFiery |
May-21-10 10:00 PM |
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you made my evening |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:03 PM |
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You're most welcome. |
ShortnFiery |
May-21-10 10:21 PM |
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yeah |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:57 PM |
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Troubling record of sexual abuse in immigrant detention centers |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:51 PM |
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Immigrant Children Beaten in Detention |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:54 PM |
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Prison for Immigrant Children |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:57 PM |
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Detained immigrant children face legal maze |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:01 PM |
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The Big Business of Family Detention |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:04 PM |
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Mass Firings, The New Face of Immigration Raids |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:18 PM |
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Dignity, Not Detention |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:27 PM |
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Good job, William.n/t |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 10:58 PM |
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Thank you for all your hard work, WIlliam. |
Bluebear |
May-22-10 02:43 PM |
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That's an oversimplified way of looking at it |
treestar |
May-21-10 04:04 PM |
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thought you were an ally? |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 08:22 PM |
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I'm just saying the law now is such that if people are deportable, there is |
treestar |
May-22-10 12:17 PM |
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yes there is |
William Z. Foster |
May-22-10 04:03 PM |
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I can't help but notice the 2009 and 2010 numbers are from different sources... |
Barack_America |
May-21-10 04:32 PM |
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And? |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 07:40 PM |
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May not be based on the same method of calculating the numbers, for one. |
Barack_America |
May-21-10 08:48 PM |
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Gotcha, certainly 2010 is just a "goal" that the government has set for this year |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 08:56 PM |
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No, you are missing the point which makes your comparison chart |
johnaries |
May-21-10 09:29 PM |
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enough |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:40 PM |
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I found this about San Francisco. ICE is going to have an uphill battle here. |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 11:06 PM |
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Well, it's not "my" chart, so march right over to their site & tell them they have ulterior motives |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 09:40 PM |
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But you used the chart as the basis of your OP. |
johnaries |
May-22-10 12:13 AM |
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let's dig in |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 08:54 PM |
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That's fair.But misleading and invalid charts only obscure the issue. |
johnaries |
May-21-10 09:33 PM |
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huh |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 09:49 PM |
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Sadly, if the "authorities" are now only locking up undocumented or past visa immigrants, |
ShortnFiery |
May-21-10 10:09 PM |
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Charts have an emotional impact. They can be used to great effect |
johnaries |
May-21-10 10:17 PM |
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so do talking points |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:19 PM |
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Good luck with that one. nt |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 10:27 PM |
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You have a hell of a nerve, I will give you that. /ignore |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 10:21 PM |
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"Nerve"? Really? Because I seek the Truth? |
johnaries |
May-21-10 10:25 PM |
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we are trying to do our homework |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:29 PM |
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? ??? "Nitpicking"? It's a LIE. I'm trying to help you w/homework. |
johnaries |
May-21-10 10:45 PM |
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it is not a lie |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:03 PM |
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If the data is not accurate, it is a LIE. Period. |
johnaries |
May-21-10 11:16 PM |
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this data? |
William Z. Foster |
May-22-10 12:28 AM |
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Why should I believe that? Where did those figures come from? |
johnaries |
May-22-10 12:53 AM |
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then don't |
William Z. Foster |
May-22-10 04:18 PM |
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what was she challenging her.. |
butterfly77 |
May-21-10 10:36 PM |
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Oh yeah I forgot, the President has NO say in legislation, right? |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 10:48 PM |
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Oh, I guess that question can 't be asked.. |
butterfly77 |
May-23-10 10:57 AM |
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Damn kids always bringing up stuff we don't want to talk about. |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 10:57 PM |
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Como se dice "pipe down, kid" en espagnol? |
Bluebear |
May-21-10 10:59 PM |
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Caillese! = KAI -eh-seh |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 11:02 PM |
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Yeah, you kids seem to think that.. |
butterfly77 |
May-23-10 11:06 AM |
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no charts here |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:40 PM |
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Immigrant advocates say immigration enforcement worse under Obama |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:55 PM |
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Republicans Wanted |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 10:58 PM |
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Immigration Raids Tear Families Apart Again |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:01 PM |
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a challenge |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:12 PM |
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Nothing wrong with enforcing existing laws on the books |
bluestateguy |
May-21-10 11:13 PM |
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not the issue |
William Z. Foster |
May-21-10 11:17 PM |
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There is the legal argument "as enforced", |
johnaries |
May-21-10 11:35 PM |
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Treating working people like stray dogs is wrong, no matter how it's justified. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-22-10 02:46 PM |
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This needs to STOP. NOW. |
Unvanguard |
May-21-10 11:55 PM |
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+1 |
Swamp Rat |
May-22-10 02:44 PM |
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It looks like NON-criminal deportations are DOWN this year |
Common Sense Party |
May-22-10 12:59 AM |
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Well, that isn't the case. |
EFerrari |
May-22-10 02:48 PM |
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Your Links are Illuminating. |
Mojeoux |
May-22-10 01:37 AM |
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May-22-10 03:01 PM |
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May-22-10 03:06 PM |
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k&r |
LWolf |
May-22-10 07:25 PM |
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