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Thu May-20-10 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 54. silly? no, you're craven |
| -"Illegal Alien" Really? |
grantcart |
May-20-10 03:09 PM |
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kick |
BrklynLiberal |
May-20-10 03:16 PM |
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I reject pejoratives applied to people based on attributes outside their control. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 03:17 PM |
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The fundamental exploitation by the Mexican government starts long before |
grantcart |
May-20-10 03:23 PM |
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Silly. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 03:45 PM |
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You compound the culpability by accepting the benefits of the undocumented worker |
grantcart |
May-20-10 03:54 PM |
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The onus of legality fell to them when they crossed the border. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 04:04 PM |
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So, tell me, what happened in 1980? Did Mexican mothers suddenly |
EFerrari |
May-20-10 06:13 PM |
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what about the children? |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 09:53 PM |
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I know you would. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 11:43 PM |
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Entitled to Foster care if their parents break the law |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 11:55 PM |
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Excellent reading skill. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 11:56 PM |
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no, i get it completely |
CreekDog |
May-21-10 12:00 AM |
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No. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-21-10 12:07 AM |
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yes, you will make the children citizens orphans if they stay |
CreekDog |
May-21-10 12:02 PM |
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Wow! Your xenophobia knows no bounds! |
sabrina 1 |
May-21-10 12:29 AM |
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silly? no, you're craven |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 09:51 PM |
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Yeah, they should just stay in their own country and starve to death! |
nomorenomore08 |
May-20-10 05:59 PM |
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No, they should rob a local bank. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 06:05 PM |
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Robbing a bank =/= crossing the border unauthorized. |
nomorenomore08 |
May-20-10 06:07 PM |
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What is the point of controlling immigration |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 06:11 PM |
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The only way to "control" immigration from Mexico is to reform the system |
nomorenomore08 |
May-20-10 06:22 PM |
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There would be no sensible reason to cross the border |
Mike K |
May-21-10 01:23 AM |
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Crossing the border is not a crime. It is a civil infraction on par with jaywalking. |
Luminous Animal |
May-21-10 02:13 AM |
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You keep comparing immigrants to violent criminals. |
EFerrari |
May-20-10 08:29 PM |
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Then we should be maintaining a viable guest worker program. |
Mike K |
May-21-10 12:15 AM |
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I disagree with your premise. Immigration is DOWN in Arizona. |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 12:19 AM |
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If the illegal alien population in Arizona is down it's because |
Mike K |
May-21-10 12:34 AM |
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Nope. Working people starting going in the other direction |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 01:06 AM |
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Yesterday, someone posted a link showing that deportations were up. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-21-10 12:36 AM |
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You might want to read this link: |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 01:10 AM |
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What's the point of restrictive laws if they can't be enforced? |
treestar |
May-20-10 09:30 PM |
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I think I'll become an H-1b lawyer |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 09:39 PM |
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I wouldn't quit my day job. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-21-10 12:20 AM |
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You have one? Lucky you. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-21-10 12:29 AM |
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Why do you suppose they are not enforceable? |
Mike K |
May-21-10 12:42 AM |
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what do you call undocumented children? |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 09:50 PM |
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Illegal aliens. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 11:55 PM |
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. |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 11:57 PM |
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It is a civil infraction not a crime. Do you also accuse jaywalkers of being child abusers? |
Luminous Animal |
May-21-10 02:06 AM |
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Consider your opinion 'duly noted', nondonor.. |
Richard Steele |
May-22-10 01:13 AM |
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Even worse is the shortcut - illegals. As if that was the sum total of their meaning and |
T Wolf |
May-20-10 03:31 PM |
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I think the admins get to decide what language is "DU worthy." |
Lance_Boyle |
May-20-10 03:34 PM |
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No the admins get to decide what is permitted. |
grantcart |
May-20-10 03:44 PM |
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Around here (border region, SE AZ) the official term is "Undocumented Alien," |
Kali |
May-20-10 03:49 PM |
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It is the correct term even now |
Zywiec |
May-20-10 06:21 PM |
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border patrol uses the term Undocumented Aliens and the abbreviation, UDAs |
Kali |
May-20-10 07:54 PM |
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What was the correct term for black slaves when the Constitution was ratified? |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 09:56 PM |
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Technical term per US Code is "unathorized alien". |
Statistical |
May-20-10 06:25 PM |
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It fits for describing someone who is not a citizen and is here without permission of the government |
jp11 |
May-20-10 03:43 PM |
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It fits a system that cynically exploits them |
grantcart |
May-20-10 03:46 PM |
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I have less problem with the term |
Kali |
May-20-10 03:44 PM |
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"the attitude that somehow all that prevents them from being "legal" is a simple choice or procedure |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 03:49 PM |
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huh? |
Kali |
May-20-10 04:00 PM |
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Yeah. Sometimes complying with the law is hard. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 04:05 PM |
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Life is hard. |
Kali |
May-20-10 07:25 PM |
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why are you allowing yourself to be part of breaking legally entered treaties with Native Americans? |
CreekDog |
May-20-10 09:59 PM |
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I'd own a Ferrari if it weren't for the paperwork. |
yodoobo |
May-20-10 05:08 PM |
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If you needed that car to live and take care of your family, or perhaps built it with your own hands |
Kali |
May-20-10 07:39 PM |
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Did you know the unemployment rate in Mexico is 4%? |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 09:26 PM |
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Disingenuous |
treestar |
May-20-10 09:29 PM |
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Exactly like me. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 09:34 PM |
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Do you know that they count people who roll on broken glass |
Luminous Animal |
May-20-10 09:47 PM |
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They have the 13th largest economy in the world and are home to the worlds wealthiest person. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 11:40 PM |
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bwahahahhaha |
Kali |
May-20-10 10:17 PM |
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I would steal and kill if it meant saving my kids from starvation. |
yodoobo |
May-20-10 09:35 PM |
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Kill? Really? You would deprive someone else of life and liberty? |
Luminous Animal |
May-20-10 09:49 PM |
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like I said...i would feel bad about it |
yodoobo |
May-20-10 10:36 PM |
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Excellent post. |
Caliman73 |
May-20-10 03:57 PM |
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tks |
grantcart |
May-20-10 09:45 PM |
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tks |
grantcart |
May-20-10 09:45 PM |
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I applaud your efforts. Thank you for posting this in the name of humanity and civility. |
political_Dem |
May-20-10 04:03 PM |
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How about using |
guardian |
May-20-10 04:10 PM |
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None of the terms you suggested distinguish between legal and illegal presence. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 04:21 PM |
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thanks for some sanity... |
a la izquierda |
May-20-10 04:30 PM |
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Fucking right. K&R |
cliffordu |
May-20-10 05:00 PM |
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K&R. |
David Zephyr |
May-20-10 06:10 PM |
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To Paraphrase Moose-Girl...We Are All "Illegal Aliens" Now !!! |
WillyT |
May-20-10 06:11 PM |
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It is not a worthy term, any more than calling someone "retarded" or using any |
Mike 03 |
May-20-10 06:15 PM |
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At risk of understatement, I disagree. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 06:36 PM |
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did they CHOOSE to be born in the wrong country? |
Kali |
May-20-10 07:41 PM |
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I wanted to be born in Kuwait. To the royal family. Yeah, that's the ticket. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-20-10 09:17 PM |
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You want to preside over a slave state, do you? |
Luminous Animal |
May-20-10 09:58 PM |
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yeah that is the same thing |
Kali |
May-20-10 10:31 PM |
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Did the starving Ethiopians choose to be born in their country? |
Mike K |
May-21-10 12:23 AM |
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May-21-10 12:31 AM |
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Kali, |
Mike K |
May-21-10 12:46 AM |
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Rec. Well said. n/t |
TriMera |
May-20-10 08:26 PM |
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K&R |
suffragette |
May-20-10 09:48 PM |
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thks |
grantcart |
May-21-10 01:06 AM |
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Well said grantcart! |
sonias |
May-21-10 11:55 AM |
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Wow. |
MellowDem |
May-21-10 12:22 PM |
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"At whose expense and whose benefit?" |
sonias |
May-21-10 01:42 PM |
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Ah, so your cool with having a slave underclass... |
MellowDem |
May-21-10 07:30 PM |
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Have you ever been an immigrant yourself? |
sonias |
May-21-10 11:29 PM |
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I've lived all over... |
MellowDem |
May-22-10 12:23 AM |
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Thank you for you detailed answer |
sonias |
May-22-10 07:56 AM |
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Well, you have been very understanding |
MellowDem |
May-22-10 07:39 PM |
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K&R |
NJmaverick |
May-21-10 09:46 PM |
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Kicketty |
cliffordu |
May-22-10 01:02 AM |
#95 |
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