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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 07:16 PM
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81. That's disgusting. n/t
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  -So, what should we do about illegal immigration? blondeatlast  May-18-10 03:29 PM   #0 
  - Improve access to legal immigration.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-10 03:32 PM   #1 
  - Well, um, well,...  blondeatlast   May-18-10 03:36 PM   #2 
  - While we have 10% official unemployment.  harkadog   May-18-10 03:48 PM   #10 
  - Which is why illegal immigration is at its lowest point in over a decade.  ieoeja   May-18-10 03:53 PM   #18 
  - Dey dook ir jerbs?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-10 04:10 PM   #31 
  - remember they do the jobs that Americans won't do  Riftaxe   May-18-10 05:23 PM   #60 
  - that whole reasoning is bullshit  SwampG8r   May-18-10 11:19 PM   #104 
  - did i really have to add a sarcasm tag?  Riftaxe   May-18-10 11:37 PM   #107 
     - oh....sorry...never mind  SwampG8r   May-19-10 12:35 AM   #111 
  - delete  Upton   May-19-10 01:27 PM   #118 
  - management destroys jobs  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 07:12 PM   #79 
  - There is virtually no evidence to suggest that immigration causes unemployment.  Zynx   May-18-10 11:10 PM   #100 
     - Never mind that. The important thing is to hate the other. nt.  Warren Stupidity   May-19-10 01:27 PM   #119 
  - While I agree wholeheartedly, you'll notice in the UK that just because immigration is legal  pampango   May-18-10 03:50 PM   #12 
  - Well Rational Discussions is out the window on this  SargeUNN   May-18-10 03:37 PM   #3 
  - Open the border, wide  Taverner   May-18-10 03:37 PM   #4 
  - You beat me.  Goblinmonger   May-18-10 03:39 PM   #6 
  - But wouldn't that mean a scary influx  blondeatlast   May-18-10 03:42 PM   #7 
  - What about US vaccination requirements for immigrant visas?  slackmaster   May-18-10 03:54 PM   #20 
  - Vaccination requirements don't have to be eliminated.  Toucano   May-18-10 04:07 PM   #29 
  - How about having an immunization program for Mexico?  Taverner   May-18-10 04:37 PM   #44 
  - ^ What Taverner said. n/t  Toucano   May-18-10 03:57 PM   #27 
  - Unity.  MerryBlooms   May-18-10 04:28 PM   #38 
  - Open the borders  Goblinmonger   May-18-10 03:38 PM   #5 
  - Speaking from someone who is 2000 miles away from the problem.  harkadog   May-18-10 03:47 PM   #8 
  - You don't favor opening the borders?  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-10 03:48 PM   #9 
  - It took less time than I thought it would for that sentiment to come out.  blondeatlast   May-18-10 03:54 PM   #19 
  - Open, but verify that people aren't carrying infectious diseases that are endemic to their homelands  slackmaster   May-18-10 03:55 PM   #23 
  - I'm not a libertarian  harkadog   May-18-10 08:49 PM   #89 
  - Poor Human beings are a "problem" ,maybe you should look for a "solution" then , I won't join you .  UndertheOcean   May-18-10 03:49 PM   #11 
  - Try writing understandable grammar the next time you post.  harkadog   May-18-10 08:51 PM   #91 
     - Try understanding. n/t  UndertheOcean   May-18-10 11:09 PM   #99 
  - I used to live right in the heart of the "problem" and I think it's a great idea. nt  blondeatlast   May-18-10 03:53 PM   #16 
  - +100 , Because you are not a Racist.  UndertheOcean   May-18-10 03:55 PM   #22 
  - 2000 miles away, probably just as much knowledge as here  SargeUNN   May-18-10 04:13 PM   #34 
  - As a long, longtime AZ resident, I can say you are completely correct about the attitudes.  blondeatlast   May-18-10 04:22 PM   # 
  - He lives very close to the Canadian border -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-18-10 04:32 PM   #40 
  - Yes, of course  Goblinmonger   May-18-10 05:45 PM   #66 
  - +1  proteus_lives   May-18-10 11:53 PM   #108 
  - I was going to type "do like the EU does", you beat me to it, but I think my phrasing is better.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-18-10 04:35 PM   #42 
  - Purchase the 13th most northern Mexican states (and part of a 14th).  ieoeja   May-18-10 03:51 PM   #13 
  - Simple , Open all borders now , problem solved.  UndertheOcean   May-18-10 03:52 PM   #14 
  - "dustbin of history"  proteus_lives   May-18-10 11:55 PM   #109 
  - Open the borders.  Starry Messenger   May-18-10 03:52 PM   #15 
  - Crack down on the employers  Quantess   May-18-10 03:53 PM   #17 
  - Starve them out?  Fla_Democrat   May-18-10 04:29 PM   #39 
  - How about hiring some legal US residents?  Quantess   May-18-10 04:52 PM   #50 
     - Does not answer the question posed..  Fla_Democrat   May-18-10 05:15 PM   #58 
        - But, you agree people come to the US illegally to work...?  Quantess   May-18-10 05:22 PM   #59 
           - Some do, but certainly not all  Fla_Democrat   May-18-10 05:50 PM   #69 
              - "some"  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 06:51 PM   #74 
                 - I didn't propose denying them employment  Fla_Democrat   May-18-10 07:54 PM   #88 
                 - what will probably happen  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 09:47 PM   #96 
                 - Thank you for your voice of sanity. nt  SPedigrees   May-19-10 12:23 PM   #114 
  - won't work  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 04:52 PM   #51 
     - So, is it too much to ask  Quantess   May-18-10 05:02 PM   #53 
     - yes  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 07:05 PM   #76 
        - Of course racial discrimination is against the law.  Quantess   May-18-10 07:17 PM   #83 
           - yes  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 07:41 PM   #85 
           - I'm in the horse business. Lots of Hispanics work alongside me and my cohorts  riderinthestorm   May-18-10 07:46 PM   #87 
              - excellent post  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 09:48 PM   #97 
     - Or a way to get them on board with ending the exploitation of workers.  redqueen   May-19-10 01:28 PM   #120 
  - What are the problems?  SargeUNN   May-18-10 03:54 PM   #21 
  - Here's a partial list of problems that would result from simply opening the borders  slackmaster   May-18-10 03:56 PM   #24 
  - Your implications are?  SargeUNN   May-18-10 03:59 PM   #28 
  - That was a state department website he provided.  ieoeja   May-18-10 04:11 PM   #32 
  - don't mistake the issue for race  notesdev   May-18-10 04:12 PM   #33 
  - Fear of ethnic minorities spreading disease is pretty much textbook racism.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-10 04:17 PM   #35 
  - Here in San Diego we occasionally have outbreaks of food-borne hepatitis  slackmaster   May-18-10 04:50 PM   #48 
     - You'll also frequently hear it among the Fred Phelps crowd.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-10 05:51 PM   #70 
        - Ignore the risk posed by unvaccinated immigrant workers at your own risk  slackmaster   May-18-10 07:07 PM   #77 
           - That's exactly what they say.  HiFructosePronSyrup   May-18-10 07:16 PM   #82 
           - that is an argument for amnesty  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 07:43 PM   #86 
              - The solution requires two things - A streamlined visa process for temporary workers, and...  slackmaster   May-19-10 09:33 AM   #113 
  - Actually, Mexico is no longer considered a "Third World Country"  Lone_Star_Dem   May-18-10 04:37 PM   #43 
  - Race has nothing to do with it  slackmaster   May-18-10 04:48 PM   #46 
     - You certainly don't live in AZ or know the depth of the problem here  SargeUNN   May-18-10 05:04 PM   #54 
        - People who support SB 1070 may not ALL be racist--but if you think  blondeatlast   May-18-10 05:38 PM   #63 
  - Vaccination requirements don't have to be eliminated.  Toucano   May-18-10 04:09 PM   #30 
  - Wouldn't be any worse than it is with immigrants moving illegally  treestar   May-18-10 04:22 PM   #37 
  - I'd like to see a streamlined path for LEGAL immigration that includes vaccinations  slackmaster   May-18-10 04:51 PM   #49 
     - Using the immigration system to fight disease is 19th century  treestar   May-19-10 03:02 PM   #125 
        - People who come in legally and apply for immigrant visas have to prove that they have had...  slackmaster   May-19-10 03:30 PM   #128 
  - brown people are diseased?  Warren Stupidity   May-19-10 01:22 PM   #116 
     - It's Strategy #5 on "the Right-Wing Playbook on Immigration Reform".  pampango   May-19-10 01:38 PM   #123 
     - The Astute Reader will note that pampango hasn't addressed the content of what I posted  slackmaster   May-19-10 03:27 PM   #127 
     - That list applies to any person who wants to apply for an immigrant visa for the USA  slackmaster   May-19-10 03:24 PM   #126 
  - Good point. As I posted ealier today (see link below), I never knew there was one  blondeatlast   May-18-10 03:57 PM   #25 
  - 1) abolish drug war 2) make legal immigration easier  SPedigrees   May-18-10 03:57 PM   #26 
  - Naturalize them. knr nt  Union Yes   May-18-10 04:17 PM   #36 
  - Answer: Change the immigration laws so that families won't be broke up!  Better Believe It   May-18-10 04:34 PM   #41 
  - Reform the immigration system - punish nationals who hire illegal labor  KonaKane   May-18-10 04:45 PM   #45 
  - Impose stiff fines on employers engaging in illegal hiring!  DailyGrind51   May-18-10 04:49 PM   #47 
  - none are  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 05:01 PM   #52 
     - You nailed it. I've lived in AZ since the '70s (I was a child then).  blondeatlast   May-18-10 05:55 PM   #72 
  - Stopping illegal immigration is easy,  MadHound   May-18-10 05:08 PM   #55 
  - Enforce the laws already on the books, and prosecute those that Hire illegals. n/t  NorthCarolina   May-18-10 05:10 PM   #56 
  - Legalize it.  damntexdem   May-18-10 05:10 PM   #57 
  - Execute the employers who hire them! PROBLEM SOLVED!!  B Calm   May-18-10 05:25 PM   #61 
  - Amnesty  Geek_Girl   May-18-10 05:29 PM   #62 
  - +1  LAGC   May-18-10 11:18 PM   #103 
  - Increase the minimum wage significantly, strictly enforce labor laws.  hunter   May-18-10 05:44 PM   #64 
  - I think we should tax the hell out of American companies that go to Mexico  winter trees   May-18-10 05:45 PM   #65 
  - Keep collecting the deductions for Social Security and Unemployment  liberal N proud   May-18-10 05:46 PM   #67 
  - Ssssshhhhh....  blondeatlast   May-18-10 05:58 PM   #73 
     - Yup, as an employer I have personal experience with phony docs  riderinthestorm   May-18-10 09:06 PM   #94 
  - offer some form of legal status to illegals who turn in their employers  Motown_Johnny   May-18-10 05:48 PM   #68 
  - Hell yes!  B Calm   May-18-10 05:53 PM   #71 
  - well, that is simply horrific  William Z. Foster   May-18-10 07:09 PM   #78 
  - That's disgusting. n/t  EFerrari   May-18-10 07:16 PM   #81 
  - Enact the very same amnesty that Ronald Reagan signed into law.  David Zephyr   May-18-10 06:56 PM   #75 
  - Stop attacking democracy in the Americas for the profit of multinationals  EFerrari   May-18-10 07:15 PM   #80 
  - Simplicity itself...  yella_dawg   May-18-10 07:21 PM   #84 
  - I hired an illegal.  riderinthestorm   May-18-10 08:56 PM   #92 
     - Brilliant and wise.  David Zephyr   May-18-10 09:08 PM   #95 
     - "NAFTA should have logically opened the borders for immigration as well"  Warren Stupidity   May-19-10 01:26 PM   #117 
     - well said  William Z. Foster   May-19-10 08:06 PM   #132 
  - Make it mandatory! Clean up with the reduced voter base when the GOP's collective heads explode! nt  Posteritatis   May-18-10 08:51 PM   #90 
  - Obvious solution  Jkid   May-18-10 09:04 PM   #93 
  - We need to also work to make it more advantageous for immigrants to stay home.  county worker   May-18-10 09:50 PM   #98 
  - I'm in favor of increasing the legal immigration quotas.  Zynx   May-18-10 11:11 PM   #101 
  - NAFTA  murdoch   May-18-10 11:15 PM   #102 
  - Enforce labor laws, create a modern working SS# database and fix NAFTA.  DefenseLawyer   May-18-10 11:25 PM   #105 
  - Have we ever deposed a Canadian government for corporate benefit?  EFerrari   May-18-10 11:35 PM   #106 
  - I don't think there is a lot we can do  ohheckyeah   May-19-10 12:01 AM   #110 
  - DINGDINGDING! We have a winner! We need to pressure Mexico to fix its own problems.  blondeatlast   May-19-10 01:32 PM   #122 
     - Thanks.  ohheckyeah   May-19-10 05:34 PM   #130 
        - The last time I was in Nogales I watched in horror as I saw men trying  blondeatlast   May-19-10 05:39 PM   #131 
           - I went through those rotating iron gates  ohheckyeah   May-19-10 11:51 PM   #136 
  - Huge fines and jail time for employers that hire illegal immigrants.  LostInAnomie   May-19-10 12:45 AM   #112 
  - legalize it. nt.  Warren Stupidity   May-19-10 01:21 PM   #115 
  - Go after the employers..  Upton   May-19-10 01:30 PM   #121 
  - raise the minimum wage to 15.00 and allow all workers a path to citizenship  librechik   May-19-10 02:13 PM   #124 
  - The answer is very easy. Crack down on the employers that  ThomThom   May-19-10 03:38 PM   #129 
  - not posible, and very dangerous  William Z. Foster   May-19-10 08:08 PM   #133 
  - It is possible. It would help if there was a data base to check on  ThomThom   May-21-10 02:08 PM   #138 
  - Absolutely! Mandatory jail time to illegal employers!!  B Calm   May-20-10 02:01 PM   #137 
  - Get rid of "illegal" farm subsidies!  paulflorez   May-19-10 08:30 PM   #134 
  - make it so they can't get work  TheFarseer   May-19-10 08:37 PM   #135 
 

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