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Mon May-17-10 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #113 |
| 134. My argument wasn't that he was incompetent at all. |
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My argument is why hire a guy like this when he surely isn't the only one with knowledge in this area. Why have a guy like this when others who don't think gay people are second class (which is putting his thinking hyper fucking nicely) can do the same job?
And apparently he isn't the bloody hero those who would hire Manson and Hitler so eagerly to help them thought he was, as he's been shitcanned from the team.
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| -Please Urge President Obama to fire homophobe Jonathan I. Katz from oil spill committee |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 12:15 PM |
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It's ok. Gays don't matter to Obama - as he has proven time and time again |
Teka |
May-17-10 12:25 PM |
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I suspect it'd be counter productive |
zipplewrath |
May-17-10 12:31 PM |
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Sorry, but catastophic disaster trumps political correctness. If he is the best person |
Pisces |
May-17-10 12:37 PM |
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"Political correctness?" Wow. - - - You would say the same thing is he was a "PROUD RACIST"? |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 12:38 PM |
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In my post, I said I would ( I am not white) This spill must be contained. If he is the smartest |
Pisces |
May-17-10 12:43 PM |
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"Talent" - - - if his paper is an example of his bad-ass brain at work, I doubt it. |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 12:47 PM |
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Having common sense is different from technical knowledge. It is not my wish that homophobes |
Pisces |
May-17-10 12:55 PM |
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And if it had been * that had pushed this homophobe, that would have been OK with you? |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 02:18 PM |
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It is ok with my militant homosexual self. |
fishbulb703 |
May-17-10 02:25 PM |
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Great. We will remember that the next time you post some flame about * |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 02:27 PM |
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Is that the royal 'we'? Get over yourself. nt |
fishbulb703 |
May-17-10 02:29 PM |
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Keep up the personal attacks, chum. It's soooo "progressive" |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 02:44 PM |
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What about your first reply to my post wasn't personal? nt |
fishbulb703 |
May-17-10 02:46 PM |
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Ummm, YOU said it was fine with YOU, and I responded accordingly. |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 02:53 PM |
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Well, from my collection of gay friends in Gville, FL. I can say no, I can not acknowledge it. |
fishbulb703 |
May-17-10 03:04 PM |
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Great, then we are back to recognizing your lack of empathy for other folks. |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 03:12 PM |
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Whoa, argument via leaps and bounds. Good for you. |
fishbulb703 |
May-17-10 03:16 PM |
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Might Be? Hunh |
Solomon |
May-17-10 07:16 PM |
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Interesting that he has been fired and is not the big expert some people are defending here. |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 09:16 PM |
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Even were he some big expert, there is never only one (1) person |
EFerrari |
May-17-10 09:23 PM |
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Do we have any evidence that this is a person whose knowledge and skills |
me b zola |
May-17-10 09:21 PM |
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Not to my knowldge,. But don't we trust our party in power? nt |
fishbulb703 |
May-17-10 09:56 PM |
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Trust but verify. Always. |
me b zola |
May-17-10 10:09 PM |
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Hint, he ain't smart |
izquierdista |
May-17-10 01:19 PM |
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He's going to insist that the oil spill be plugged with a giant penis. Heterosexually. n/t |
Ian David |
May-17-10 02:44 PM |
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Why does he have to be on the panel? |
KamaAina |
May-17-10 01:19 PM |
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So you support the 'science of creationism'? |
Bluenorthwest |
May-17-10 01:34 PM |
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Let the oil flow..... |
stray cat |
May-17-10 12:45 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-17-10 12:48 PM |
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If he is THE expert we need to control this blow-out... |
hayu_lol |
May-17-10 12:53 PM |
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K&R! - Letter Signed. eom |
frebrd |
May-17-10 01:01 PM |
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Sorry, I hate to say it but I don't care if the guy that can solve this |
TheKentuckian |
May-17-10 01:03 PM |
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Thank you If you were dying on the side of the road as a result of |
Solomon |
May-17-10 01:20 PM |
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If I were dying on the side of the road, a homophobic doctor would decline to treat me. |
foxfeet |
May-17-10 01:36 PM |
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A homophobic doctor wouldn't stop to help now would he. |
walldude |
May-17-10 01:40 PM |
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You guys are unreal. Just unreal. |
Solomon |
May-17-10 02:49 PM |
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Read below...the guy is a global warming denier also... |
joeybee12 |
May-17-10 02:50 PM |
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I'm not "defending" the guy and I resent you saying that. |
Solomon |
May-17-10 03:02 PM |
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In a country where pharmacists can refuse to fill women's prescriptions |
foxfeet |
May-17-10 08:12 PM |
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Hmm...and after reading what he had to say about AIDS, you think that |
joeybee12 |
May-17-10 02:21 PM |
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William Shockley |
jberryhill |
May-17-10 03:30 PM |
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My one recommend couldn't even bring this up to +1 |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 01:05 PM |
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Mine neither, Bobbolink |
readmoreoften |
May-17-10 01:23 PM |
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Mine got it to one... |
walldude |
May-17-10 01:35 PM |
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+2 when I left work, now 0 |
Newsjock |
May-17-10 02:09 PM |
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Sadly, I don't think we ARE "better than this". |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 02:46 PM |
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"I am a racist, and proud." |
KamaAina |
May-17-10 01:16 PM |
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yup. even though people on this thread claim they would be fine, if he were an avowed racist |
La Lioness Priyanka |
May-17-10 01:37 PM |
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One counterexample.... |
jberryhill |
May-17-10 03:33 PM |
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Imagine what would be said if BUSH had appointed him. Would there be ANY defense of him at all? |
katandmoon |
May-17-10 01:18 PM |
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That is exactly why for Years I have been saying we need to look at OURSELVES. |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 01:38 PM |
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There would be no defense and we wouldn't be accused of |
walldude |
May-17-10 01:42 PM |
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. |
bobbolink |
May-17-10 01:47 PM |
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+1 |
racaulk |
May-17-10 03:16 PM |
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"It would have been 100% assumed that Bush could have found a non-homophobic expert" |
jesus_of_suburbia |
May-17-10 10:00 PM |
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There is never anything such as the one best person |
undeterred |
May-17-10 01:19 PM |
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yup |
La Lioness Priyanka |
May-17-10 01:45 PM |
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Precisely. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-17-10 04:19 PM |
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Obama should be ordering the seizure of BP's assets and hardware to fix this mess. |
readmoreoften |
May-17-10 01:22 PM |
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K&R.. Anyone thinking that this guy is "smart" enough to deal with this oil spill |
walldude |
May-17-10 01:34 PM |
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That Obama, he just loves some bigots! |
Bluenorthwest |
May-17-10 01:43 PM |
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IT WAS JUST ONE SONG!!11! |
racaulk |
May-17-10 03:46 PM |
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His scientific background is suspect as well |
KamaAina |
May-17-10 02:01 PM |
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Nice find...makes me think they really don't want to solve this...n/t |
joeybee12 |
May-17-10 02:13 PM |
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Shit! He's a Global Warming Denier.... |
walldude |
May-17-10 02:18 PM |
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Here's a rec from me, Bluebear. |
tango-tee |
May-17-10 02:22 PM |
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Got up to +3, now back to +1 |
Newsjock |
May-17-10 02:33 PM |
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He is consulted for his scientific expertise, not his views on human rights |
gravity |
May-17-10 02:34 PM |
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He's a Global Warming Denier... |
walldude |
May-17-10 02:47 PM |
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He isn't a global warming denier |
gravity |
May-17-10 02:58 PM |
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LMAO.. try the links I posted in post 37.. |
walldude |
May-17-10 03:09 PM |
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He never denied global warming caused by humans |
gravity |
May-17-10 03:16 PM |
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I want the spill stopped first and foremost |
Sheepshank |
May-17-10 02:48 PM |
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"My personal ideology" - - We don't need your signature or your rec. |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 03:10 PM |
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I'm surprised he didn't say "lifestyle choice." |
racaulk |
May-17-10 03:15 PM |
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Really you want the spill stopped so you will support a scientist who |
walldude |
May-17-10 03:13 PM |
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Stop! We can't cater to people with personal ideologies of lifestyle choices! |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 03:42 PM |
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After reading some of the stuff about him it seems like he does not |
CBR |
May-17-10 02:51 PM |
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For want of a nail (someone acceptable to DU) |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-17-10 02:59 PM |
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For want of a global warming denier, but whatever. |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 03:44 PM |
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K&R. |
EFerrari |
May-17-10 03:02 PM |
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Well, apparently this |
walldude |
May-17-10 03:15 PM |
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Hook, line and sinker. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-17-10 03:22 PM |
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K&R |
racaulk |
May-17-10 03:09 PM |
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No suprise at all, because DU has been proved to be quite friendly to homophobes |
Teka |
May-17-10 03:26 PM |
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Next the thread will be locked for being "hopelessly unmoderatable" |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 03:45 PM |
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Obama admin picks climate-change-denying homophobe to 'fix' Gulf oil spill disaster |
Ian David |
May-17-10 03:29 PM |
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If Bush had done this all of DU would be on your side. |
Forkboy |
May-17-10 03:39 PM |
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yup, |
La Lioness Priyanka |
May-17-10 04:09 PM |
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Ain't that the truth!!! |
racaulk |
May-17-10 04:16 PM |
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+1 |
bullwinkle428 |
May-17-10 04:37 PM |
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The climate change thing bothers me more |
Prism |
May-17-10 04:07 PM |
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In my personal experience, a person can be brilliant in one field and shite in everything else |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-17-10 04:19 PM |
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What the hell is going on here? |
Toucano |
May-17-10 04:33 PM |
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EXACTLY. It would be like hiring George Rekers for, well, |
bullwinkle428 |
May-17-10 04:40 PM |
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You are comparing apples and oranges |
DatManFromNawlins |
May-18-10 12:25 AM |
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His field of discipline is irrelevant. |
Toucano |
May-18-10 01:09 AM |
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Sorry, if Charles Manson had the expertise to stop the leak, I'd hire him |
scheming daemons |
May-17-10 04:50 PM |
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Care to show how Katz has the expertise to stop the leak? n/t |
FreeState |
May-17-10 05:00 PM |
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Care to show |
The Old Creak |
May-17-10 05:18 PM |
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How can I show a negative? |
FreeState |
May-17-10 07:07 PM |
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Thank you. Exactly how did Katz become the go-to guy for oil gushers? |
foxfeet |
May-17-10 05:21 PM |
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Why are they all |
The Old Creak |
May-17-10 05:30 PM |
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Yes, we know you would. |
Forkboy |
May-17-10 06:43 PM |
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Yes... because let's not worry about how quickly the leak is stopped, but only about |
scheming daemons |
May-17-10 06:49 PM |
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" Being a homophobe doesn't invalidate the man's physics expertise." |
Forkboy |
May-17-10 06:57 PM |
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You're changing the argument unfairly. |
Solomon |
May-17-10 07:31 PM |
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Nobody has yet argued that he's competent. Apparently it's just assumed. |
foxfeet |
May-17-10 08:10 PM |
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My argument wasn't that he was incompetent at all. |
Forkboy |
May-17-10 09:24 PM |
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WTF !! |
gaspee |
May-17-10 04:56 PM |
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done! |
amborin |
May-17-10 05:08 PM |
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unreal: Obama nominates a denier as one of our "best and brightest" scientists please make this |
amborin |
May-17-10 05:11 PM |
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That would be a stupid move, IMO |
WeDidIt |
May-17-10 05:12 PM |
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No thanks.. |
Upton |
May-17-10 05:14 PM |
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Katz, an astrophysicist, admits he has no expertise and can't help: |
amborin |
May-17-10 05:26 PM |
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Katz's blog post on global warming: |
amborin |
May-17-10 05:28 PM |
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This sucks |
The Old Creak |
May-17-10 05:33 PM |
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This is why I'm okay with dismissing him. |
BreweryYardRat |
May-17-10 08:45 PM |
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So a homophobe is not worthy to work on an important environmental project |
Sheepshank |
May-17-10 05:40 PM |
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Let's play the anti-gay Pick 3, shall we? |
Prism |
May-17-10 05:50 PM |
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It's exactly what I'm getting from the op |
Sheepshank |
May-17-10 05:58 PM |
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yeah, real 'hypicritical' |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 07:20 PM |
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He failed on a public level when he advocated for discrimination |
EFerrari |
May-17-10 07:39 PM |
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"I don't see a difference here in the hate rhetoric" ...the "LIFESTYLE" - wow. |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 07:19 PM |
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obviously what? |
Sheepshank |
May-17-10 08:03 PM |
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Just an FYI the term "lifestyle" is beyond offensive |
FreeState |
May-17-10 08:07 PM |
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Amazing how easily the RW rhetoric has worked its way in here. nt |
laughingliberal |
May-17-10 08:12 PM |
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'I suppose I don't have the right gay speak enough for you?' - Piss off, he got fired. |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 08:19 PM |
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piss off? |
Sheepshank |
May-17-10 08:41 PM |
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Self-rightous (sic) homophobe! |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 09:08 PM |
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Moral equivalency much? |
laughingliberal |
May-17-10 08:11 PM |
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But apparently a homophobe is free to post here. |
Smashcut |
May-17-10 11:02 PM |
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The professor's expertice is |
TriMera |
May-17-10 05:58 PM |
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I cant figure it out either n/t |
FreeState |
May-17-10 07:13 PM |
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Breaking: Energy Dept.: "Professor Katz will no longer be involved in the Department's efforts." |
FreeState |
May-17-10 07:54 PM |
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Bookmarking. n/t |
EFerrari |
May-17-10 08:07 PM |
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Yay!!! A blow against bigotry! nt |
laughingliberal |
May-17-10 08:15 PM |
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'Over 2,300 people signed our open letter to the President.' - Much to the disappointment of some |
Bluebear |
May-17-10 08:18 PM |
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3 Billion didn't sign it n/t |
Sheepshank |
May-17-10 08:42 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-17-10 09:08 PM |
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Homophobia Defender Ousted Energy Department announces Jonathan Katz will no longer be assisting |
Ian David |
May-17-10 10:57 PM |
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goodbye. Homophbia = racism = classism = religious extremism = anti-science. |
Mojeoux |
May-18-10 01:20 AM |
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Unless the position effects the job, it doesn't matter |
Ter |
May-18-10 12:01 AM |
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it's |
amborin |
May-18-10 12:27 AM |
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Thanks |
Ter |
May-18-10 01:04 AM |
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Sorry, but doing a small job at your house is in no way the same |
EFerrari |
May-18-10 12:31 AM |
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That disgusts me. |
Toucano |
May-18-10 01:35 AM |
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Other people's politics are irrelevent to me, unless it relates to the job |
Ter |
May-18-10 02:12 PM |
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Your principles are irrelevant to you. |
Toucano |
May-18-10 02:40 PM |
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Too a point, sure |
Ter |
May-18-10 02:56 PM |
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"I would never hire a racist..." |
Toucano |
May-18-10 03:49 PM |
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I would just like to say... |
racaulk |
May-18-10 04:37 PM |
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It's very kind of you to take the time to say that. |
Toucano |
May-18-10 05:35 PM |
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K&R for a glimmer of light |
Truth2Tell |
May-18-10 12:14 AM |
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Very revealing thread. |
Toucano |
May-18-10 01:21 AM |
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He's just going to fix one oil spill! |
EFerrari |
May-18-10 01:38 AM |
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Keep your powder dry! The big battles lie ahead! Stop with the purity tests! n/t |
Toucano |
May-18-10 01:42 AM |
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I think its done. Gonna be some disappointed people. |
VMI Dem |
May-18-10 04:46 PM |
#157 |