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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:34 PM
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59. The most dangerous job is convenience or liquor store clerk.
The "shittiest" job is day care or nursing home staff.

Which of these jobs DON'T women do?
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  -Women are dominating in higher education and will continue to do so, experts say. AngryAmish  May-12-10 09:04 AM   #0 
  - They'll RULE the WORLD!!! ....  Echo In Light   May-12-10 09:09 AM   #1 
  - so you put a picture up of a woman with legs spread.... lol  seabeyond   May-12-10 09:28 AM   #4 
  - That's a bit of a reach. It's a bad movie about women who want to take over the world.  Echo In Light   May-12-10 09:44 AM   #14 
  - a bet tongue in cheek  seabeyond   May-12-10 10:14 AM   #26 
     - .  Echo In Light   May-12-10 10:33 AM   #34 
  - She just has a wide stance  JustABozoOnThisBus   May-12-10 10:49 AM   #39 
     - Who/what are you referring to?  Echo In Light   May-12-10 11:11 AM   #43 
        - Referring to your advertisement picture in post 1  JustABozoOnThisBus   May-12-10 01:11 PM   #44 
  - Ironically:  Starry Messenger   May-12-10 09:55 AM   #19 
  - Who the HELL is unrecc'ing this thread??  Dappleganger   May-12-10 09:10 AM   #2 
  - tiny little men with tiny little  mzteris   May-12-10 09:25 AM   #3 
  - So, inequality is .... good?  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 09:32 AM   #7 
  - "Dominating"? Does that just mean that there are more women than men graduating?  Brickbat   May-12-10 09:30 AM   #5 
  - agreed to both points. nt  seabeyond   May-12-10 09:31 AM   #6 
  - Women are 50% more likely to go to college than men.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 09:34 AM   #9 
  - Not our fault that male culture promotes the idea that education is for "sissies"  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 02:29 PM   #56 
  - Education isn't a male culture.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 02:37 PM   #61 
  - So start your own grant program. Seriously.  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 02:42 PM   #63 
     - Good point.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 02:49 PM   #68 
  - If this came down the other way, you'd easily identify institutionalized sexism.  Romulox   May-12-10 03:14 PM   #78 
     - It's not feminism's responsibility to solve men's problems.  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 04:02 PM   #96 
     - It would be helpful if feminism could be internally consistent, though.  Romulox   May-12-10 04:03 PM   #97 
        - Consistent with what? Your idea of what it should be?  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 04:32 PM   #99 
        - No--advocacy for "equality". My statement wasn't ambiguous in any way. nt  Romulox   May-12-10 04:33 PM   #100 
        - I'm a feminist and I don't give a fuck all about revenge.  Kalyke   May-13-10 01:50 AM   #126 
     - I identify a generation of young men on Xbox all day instead of being made to study.  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 06:11 PM   #108 
  - Women run education for the benefit of girls?  Kalyke   May-12-10 02:33 PM   #58 
  - So... males perform 33% better than girls on the math SAT...  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 02:44 PM   #64 
  - So what are the teachers doing that is making boys perform at a lower level?  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 05:49 PM   #105 
     - Yet you have no difficulty contemplating a patriarchal system.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 06:23 PM   #112 
     - Teachers are  Yupster   May-13-10 09:42 AM   #128 
        - Maybe your wife was thinking that if one of those kids got hurt at the party you all would be liable  Hello_Kitty   May-13-10 02:14 PM   #133 
           - +10,000  Scout   May-13-10 02:19 PM   #134 
  - Upwards of 90% of my teachers at all level have been women. nt  Romulox   May-12-10 03:15 PM   #80 
     - And? What does that prove?  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 05:51 PM   #106 
  - "Women run education for the benefit of girls"?  KamaAina   May-12-10 03:09 PM   #76 
  - What are some specific ways that women run education for the benefit of girls, as you allege?  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 05:22 PM   #104 
     - It's hard to quantify when no one cares.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 06:15 PM   #109 
        - Zero tolerance policies are stupid as hell but plenty of girls get punished by them too.  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 06:48 PM   #117 
  - "It just is"  MellowDem   May-12-10 01:45 PM   #45 
     - aren't there important differences  Bill McBlueState   May-12-10 06:46 PM   #116 
        - Yes, but I would think they're both problems...  MellowDem   May-13-10 12:10 PM   #132 
  - Women just learn to focus at an earlier age.  mainer   May-12-10 09:33 AM   #8 
  - IMHO there are borader cultural factors at work  Viking12   May-12-10 10:20 AM   #29 
  - Maybe males have better paying jobs out of high-school  Kurt_and_Hunter   May-12-10 10:34 AM   #35 
     - The only reason that jobs requiring equal skill are paid differently  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 11:04 AM   #40 
        - Coal Mining pays well? We don't women doing dangerous or "shitty" jobs?  KittyWampus   May-12-10 11:08 AM   #41 
        - Aside from a missing verb, that's what I said.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 11:09 AM   #42 
           - Go teach preschool for four hours....  wickerwoman   May-12-10 02:38 PM   #62 
              - Why is the worst job in the world, "a calling"?  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 03:02 PM   #74 
                 - Calling it a "calling" is an excuse to pay you shit for it.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 03:11 PM   #77 
                    - Wages are set by supply and demand. Not by "desert". nt  Romulox   May-12-10 03:18 PM   #81 
                    - Not in child care.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 03:26 PM   #85 
                    - The pay is what it is because LOTS of people go to school to become teachers.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 03:24 PM   #84 
                    - See post 85.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 03:33 PM   #86 
                       - They make as much as people are willing to pay them. And as much as they're willing to accept.  Romulox   May-12-10 04:38 PM   #101 
                          - But if men leave a profession in droves once women start entering it  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 06:34 PM   #115 
                    - Your second point  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 05:53 PM   #107 
                       - Yeah, like playing Xbox all day while their sisters do homework and help around the house.  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 06:31 PM   #114 
                       - You've pushed that bigoted stereotype ad-nauseum.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 11:24 PM   #121 
                          - Nope, there's nothing wrong with the boys.  Hello_Kitty   May-13-10 12:16 AM   #124 
                             - Sure there is, but it's nothing that your stereotyping is going to cure.  lumberjack_jeff   May-13-10 09:05 AM   #127 
                       - Preschools don't close in the summer.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 06:48 PM   #118 
                          - You can poll the teachers here, if you still doubt it.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 11:29 PM   #122 
                             - It's interesting because when I taught public school for 10 years, we were shown statistics  Yupster   May-13-10 09:52 AM   #129 
                                - Not sure who you're arguing with.  wickerwoman   May-13-10 03:45 PM   #138 
        - The most dangerous job is convenience or liquor store clerk.  PassingFair   May-12-10 02:34 PM   #59 
           - we have a different concept of dangerous  snooper2   May-12-10 02:48 PM   #66 
           - maybe those men do those jobs because they are too stupid to know how  Scout   May-12-10 02:54 PM   #70 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-12-10 04:30 PM   #98 
           - Yes we do.  PassingFair   May-12-10 03:01 PM   #73 
           - 93% of workplace fatalities are men  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 02:58 PM   #72 
              - You said "shitty".  PassingFair   May-12-10 03:05 PM   #75 
              - Try cleaning out a sewage digester. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 03:15 PM   #79 
                 - There are many, many, many more butt wipers than sewage cleaners.  PassingFair   May-12-10 03:34 PM   #87 
              - Right back at you.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 03:22 PM   #83 
                 - What do you mean, "Right back at me"?  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 03:34 PM   #88 
                    - I'm also not interested in pitting working class jobs against each other.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 03:40 PM   #89 
                       - "people take dangerous jobs because they are willing to accept the risk."  Romulox   May-12-10 04:01 PM   #95 
                          - People take low wage jobs because the alternative is starvation.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 06:20 PM   #111 
                             - Your theory that women have to do better- any data to support that?  AngryAmish   May-13-10 11:28 AM   #131 
                                - Sure thing.  wickerwoman   May-13-10 03:35 PM   #135 
  - Girls aren't allowed to be slackers.  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 02:36 PM   #60 
     - Nail on the head.  wickerwoman   May-12-10 02:51 PM   #69 
        - "unplug the goddamn PS3 and put a book in his hands" Bingo!  Hello_Kitty   May-12-10 03:59 PM   #94 
  - Mark Perry="experts"?  Starry Messenger   May-12-10 09:36 AM   #10 
  - How many of those degrees are from "Ross Medical College" and similar strip-mall type affairs?  Romulox   May-12-10 09:38 AM   #11 
  - Anecdotal, but my 13 years of experience in "real" higher ed is consistent with the report  Viking12   May-12-10 10:19 AM   #28 
  - OK. But if "Dental Assistant College" is being counted, why isn't "Heating and Cooling College"?  Romulox   May-12-10 10:23 AM   #30 
  - Ross Medical School is a...medical school that trains doctors to be licensed in the U.S.  SemiCharmedQuark   May-12-10 10:30 AM   #33 
  - The one on late nite (sic) TV trains "medical assistants" in under a year...  Romulox   May-12-10 10:34 AM   #36 
     - Ah, my mistake. Different Ross.  SemiCharmedQuark   May-12-10 10:36 AM   #37 
  - They do, its clear on any campus  ProgressiveProfessor   May-12-10 08:00 PM   #119 
  - In my graduate program there are about 25 of us, 4 are men.  CBR   May-12-10 09:38 AM   #12 
  - good  ensho   May-12-10 09:40 AM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-12-10 09:44 AM   #15 
  - So let's make them stupider.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 09:47 AM   #16 
  - The allusion was to a Michael Moore book  depakid   May-12-10 10:28 AM   #32 
  - Edit: post was moderated, point has been made.  Romulox   May-12-10 09:47 AM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-12-10 10:13 AM   #25 
  - So have women....  MellowDem   May-12-10 01:49 PM   #46 
  - with women in charge, it would still be a mess  Ex Lurker   May-12-10 06:18 PM   #110 
  - Awesome. Now they can set about the task of ensuring we are paid less for it  Maru Kitteh   May-12-10 09:51 AM   #18 
  - But GET THIS:  snot   May-12-10 10:03 AM   #20 
  - Maybe being a partner in a big traditional law firm simply isn't worth it?  Romulox   May-12-10 10:06 AM   #21 
  - kick  ensho   May-12-10 10:11 AM   #24 
  - To be honest, big law is unfair to most people entering it  AngryAmish   May-12-10 10:15 AM   #27 
  - I think "big law" is stupid goal. Who needs it?  Romulox   May-12-10 10:44 AM   #38 
  - Again,  snot   May-12-10 03:51 PM   #92 
     - It was fairly clear to what you referred. What's gained by playing coy?  Romulox   May-12-10 03:58 PM   #93 
  - I used to do filing in my undergrad's administrative offices.  CBR   May-12-10 10:07 AM   #22 
  - I'd be interested to know the time-frame?  snot   May-12-10 03:47 PM   #91 
  - Just because they don't perform as well as you might expect in the professional  Marr   May-12-10 02:07 PM   #50 
     - Wait a sec --  snot   May-12-10 03:46 PM   #90 
  - Veterinary school classes are now 78% women. Until the Class of 1980,  kestrel91316   May-12-10 10:08 AM   #23 
  - I hear that men are concentrated in the large animal care (horses and such). Had no  Liberal_in_LA   May-12-10 02:47 PM   #65 
  - Rut-roh...bad news for Freepers!  bullwinkle428   May-12-10 10:24 AM   #31 
  - You know the main reason...  WCGreen   May-12-10 01:52 PM   #47 
  - It's hard to really appraise this without more data.  Marr   May-12-10 01:56 PM   #48 
  - judging by my son's own academic performance... I believe it. nt  greencharlie   May-12-10 01:58 PM   #49 
  - One academic suggest eliminating boys 10th grade grades... boy's gpas  Liberal_in_LA   May-12-10 02:49 PM   #67 
     - Yeah, if you don't like the rules, change the rules!  CTyankee   May-12-10 05:07 PM   #102 
  - Well , whatever is Happening is not reaching Engineering ...  UndertheOcean   May-12-10 02:16 PM   #51 
  - This happens roughly at the same time the RW starts pushing the "being educated is bad" meme.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-12-10 02:19 PM   #52 
  - I think you're confusing cause and effect.  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 02:24 PM   #54 
     - You'll notice I didn't imply which is the cause of which. Or if both have a common cause. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   May-12-10 02:27 PM   #55 
        - Then I agree. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   May-12-10 02:30 PM   #57 
  - No wonder educating women has been such an issue thoughout history  Matariki   May-12-10 02:19 PM   #53 
  - when the playing field is level, we outplay them. they don't like that. n/t  Scout   May-12-10 02:56 PM   #71 
  - Our culture, especially our pop culture, tells boys that reading, studying, and  Lydia Leftcoast   May-12-10 03:19 PM   #82 
  - How many of us have learned THAT lesson!  CTyankee   May-12-10 05:09 PM   #103 
  - Despite this, women still earn less than men doing the same jobs n/t  rox63   May-12-10 06:26 PM   #113 
  - Actually that is not nearly as true as some people think  ProgressiveProfessor   May-12-10 08:01 PM   #120 
  - when I was growing up, I felt like the important message that was pushed on me from all corners was:  ecstatic   May-12-10 11:40 PM   #123 
  - This is why we should all be in favor of affirmative action  eridani   May-13-10 01:21 AM   #125 
  - Agree in theory, but  Yupster   May-13-10 09:58 AM   #130 
     - Not really. But they do tend to have double standards  eridani   May-13-10 03:38 PM   #137 
  - Because males are taking the Technical college route, to go straight to computer $$, skip the LArts  WinkyDink   May-13-10 03:37 PM   #136 

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