zipplewrath
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Tue May-11-10 11:09 AM
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| 53. Believe what you will |
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But the point is that it wasn't a case of "not presenting it well". He rejected single payer right up front, and bailed on a public option by July at the LATEST. Some reports had it being done in April. And claim what you will, but single payer polled very well.
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| -There is no point to a third party on the left - is there any place for the very left in US politics |
old mark |
May-11-10 04:35 AM |
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I'm not very optimistic about the future |
Syrinx |
May-11-10 05:08 AM |
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I think that |
H2O Man |
May-11-10 05:14 AM |
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Since one-half (50%) of the people do not vote and these are for |
OHdem10 |
May-11-10 05:17 AM |
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The kids' table is on the left |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
May-11-10 05:18 AM |
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FDR and Truman were the last really effective liberal presidents, IMO... |
old mark |
May-11-10 05:23 AM |
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The prosperity they created killed progressivism. nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-11-10 06:19 AM |
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I deliberately left LBJ out of this because he was IMO a part liberal; |
old mark |
May-11-10 08:46 AM |
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There is a point or reason for one, just too many roadblocks thrown up. |
mmonk |
May-11-10 05:35 AM |
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Bill Maher said it best when he said this... |
PinkFloyd |
May-11-10 05:52 AM |
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Or, "The Democratic Party has moved to the Right while the Republicans have |
Lorien |
May-11-10 12:56 PM |
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A democratic-socialist-green caucus within the Democratic Party |
Warren Stupidity |
May-11-10 05:54 AM |
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I thought the Progressive Caucus was supposed to serve that purpose. nt |
Selatius |
May-11-10 07:23 AM |
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it is. But we are unwilling to lose elections pushing our |
Warren Stupidity |
May-11-10 09:56 AM |
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And the Progressive Democrats of America |
KamaAina |
May-11-10 11:48 AM |
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Here's the platform for changing this mess... |
Scuba |
May-11-10 06:07 AM |
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Where's the Left in the US? In front of their computers reading The Guardian. nt |
Captain Hilts |
May-11-10 06:19 AM |
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The overall social conditions will have to deteriorate more before a lib/lefty party ... |
Echo In Light |
May-11-10 07:05 AM |
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The last time the US was in that state, it was called the Great Depression. |
Selatius |
May-11-10 07:22 AM |
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One person one vote |
stray cat |
May-11-10 07:18 AM |
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However, that vote can be "corrected" by Diebold should that one person vote incorrectly. n/t |
NorthCarolina |
May-11-10 08:42 AM |
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The left comprises 1/5 of this nation, the right is 2/5 |
WeDidIt |
May-11-10 07:24 AM |
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Not always so |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 08:10 AM |
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Gallup says you're wrong |
WeDidIt |
May-11-10 08:21 AM |
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Now remove the labels |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 08:46 AM |
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You cannot remove the labels |
WeDidIt |
May-11-10 08:51 AM |
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And from the current state of the media |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 09:06 AM |
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I would contend that your addition to my statement |
WeDidIt |
May-11-10 09:07 AM |
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Yup |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 09:09 AM |
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Everything sounds great |
kctim |
May-11-10 09:05 AM |
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It was cheaper than this |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 09:07 AM |
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Yep, the math is too simple |
WeDidIt |
May-11-10 09:14 AM |
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A smaller paycheck |
kctim |
May-11-10 09:44 AM |
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It was to be paid by the top 5% |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 09:48 AM |
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Sorry |
kctim |
May-11-10 10:48 AM |
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Obama rejected it |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 10:53 AM |
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He rejected it |
kctim |
May-11-10 11:08 AM |
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Believe what you will |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 11:09 AM |
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It's all in how you present it |
depakid |
May-11-10 09:10 AM |
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I don't totally disagree |
kctim |
May-11-10 09:57 AM |
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Public option |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 11:13 AM |
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Show me |
kctim |
May-11-10 12:01 PM |
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Um, SS and medicare are WILDLY popular |
zipplewrath |
May-11-10 12:12 PM |
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So they want EVEN WORSE and unaccountable insurance parasites running things |
depakid |
May-11-10 11:36 AM |
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I agree |
kctim |
May-11-10 12:07 PM |
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The vast majority of the evidence beyond shallow self labelling shows that's absolutely incorrect |
depakid |
May-11-10 08:59 AM |
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Most Americans claim to be religious |
Bluenorthwest |
May-11-10 09:13 AM |
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The problem is, policy ALWAYS gets labeled |
WeDidIt |
May-11-10 10:22 AM |
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Gallup-own by the GOP |
Lorien |
May-11-10 12:54 PM |
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BULLSHIT straight from Faux. |
Lorien |
May-11-10 12:54 PM |
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Sure And Get 10% Of The Vote...Maybe...More Like 5 |
KharmaTrain |
May-11-10 07:30 AM |
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I think about this a lot |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
May-11-10 07:45 AM |
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The third party left is now the kingmaker in Great Britain |
depakid |
May-11-10 08:14 AM |
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It's my impression that the DCCC and the DSCC are doing everything |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
May-11-10 08:17 AM |
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The blue dogs are in the seats with the smallest swings- and thanks to their efforts |
depakid |
May-11-10 08:26 AM |
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third parties could be viable if we had european style IRV, but until then, |
dionysus |
May-11-10 08:27 AM |
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In many states-such as here in PA-the law restricts the chances |
old mark |
May-11-10 08:42 AM |
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That's what I wish we could do. You just cannot vote 3rd party in this country. |
tranche |
May-11-10 11:46 AM |
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those on the right within our own party hope we give up |
fascisthunter |
May-11-10 08:53 AM |
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If you are left of right-of-center in America, |
branders seine |
May-11-10 08:55 AM |
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Why must we weaken the party? |
kctim |
May-11-10 09:31 AM |
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You should be asking that question of the blue dogs- since they've been the ones |
depakid |
May-11-10 09:50 AM |
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Well |
kctim |
May-11-10 10:02 AM |
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You're the one who expressed concern about the party and seem to hold a dear spot for those |
depakid |
May-11-10 11:26 AM |
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True |
kctim |
May-11-10 01:35 PM |
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“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone,.... |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-11-10 10:49 AM |
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We need to take back the Democratic Party from the DLCers who are |
Cleita |
May-11-10 12:39 PM |
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There's a place BUT..... |
MicaelS |
May-11-10 12:39 PM |
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Excuse me but the blue collar are the leftists. |
Cleita |
May-11-10 12:45 PM |
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Um, I think you are talking about liberals. |
blindpig |
May-11-10 12:53 PM |
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The place for the Left is on the streets. |
blindpig |
May-11-10 12:50 PM |
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Third parties, duet to the way the system |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-11-10 01:39 PM |
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What would a 3rd party be? I see 4 parties, not 2 or 3 in the future. |
Jennicut |
May-11-10 01:43 PM |
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Several states have stacked the deck against new parties - if you are not a |
old mark |
May-11-10 05:13 PM |
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True. I just see the public splitting into 4 groups. |
Jennicut |
May-11-10 10:53 PM |
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Actually we may be seeing the start of this - certainly on the right and |
old mark |
May-12-10 06:39 AM |
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