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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #33
35. It was cheaper than this
They refused to even "score" single payer. And a robust public option was "scored" to show it was cheaper than what they ultimately did end up with.
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  -There is no point to a third party on the left - is there any place for the very left in US politics old mark  May-11-10 04:35 AM   #0 
  - I'm not very optimistic about the future  Syrinx   May-11-10 05:08 AM   #1 
  - I think that  H2O Man   May-11-10 05:14 AM   #2 
  - Since one-half (50%) of the people do not vote and these are for  OHdem10   May-11-10 05:17 AM   #3 
  - The kids' table is on the left  JustABozoOnThisBus   May-11-10 05:18 AM   #4 
  - FDR and Truman were the last really effective liberal presidents, IMO...  old mark   May-11-10 05:23 AM   #5 
     - The prosperity they created killed progressivism. nt  Captain Hilts   May-11-10 06:19 AM   #11 
        - I deliberately left LBJ out of this because he was IMO a part liberal;  old mark   May-11-10 08:46 AM   #28 
  - There is a point or reason for one, just too many roadblocks thrown up.  mmonk   May-11-10 05:35 AM   #6 
  - Bill Maher said it best when he said this...  PinkFloyd   May-11-10 05:52 AM   #7 
  - Or, "The Democratic Party has moved to the Right while the Republicans have  Lorien   May-11-10 12:56 PM   #69 
  - A democratic-socialist-green caucus within the Democratic Party  Warren Stupidity   May-11-10 05:54 AM   #8 
  - I thought the Progressive Caucus was supposed to serve that purpose. nt  Selatius   May-11-10 07:23 AM   #15 
     - it is. But we are unwilling to lose elections pushing our  Warren Stupidity   May-11-10 09:56 AM   #45 
     - And the Progressive Democrats of America  KamaAina   May-11-10 11:48 AM   #58 
  - Here's the platform for changing this mess...  Scuba   May-11-10 06:07 AM   #9 
  - Where's the Left in the US? In front of their computers reading The Guardian. nt  Captain Hilts   May-11-10 06:19 AM   #10 
  - The overall social conditions will have to deteriorate more before a lib/lefty party ...  Echo In Light   May-11-10 07:05 AM   #12 
  - The last time the US was in that state, it was called the Great Depression.  Selatius   May-11-10 07:22 AM   #14 
  - One person one vote  stray cat   May-11-10 07:18 AM   #13 
  - However, that vote can be "corrected" by Diebold should that one person vote incorrectly. n/t  NorthCarolina   May-11-10 08:42 AM   #26 
  - The left comprises 1/5 of this nation, the right is 2/5  WeDidIt   May-11-10 07:24 AM   #16 
  - Not always so  zipplewrath   May-11-10 08:10 AM   #19 
  - Gallup says you're wrong  WeDidIt   May-11-10 08:21 AM   #22 
     - Now remove the labels  zipplewrath   May-11-10 08:46 AM   #27 
     - You cannot remove the labels  WeDidIt   May-11-10 08:51 AM   #29 
     - And from the current state of the media  zipplewrath   May-11-10 09:06 AM   #34 
        - I would contend that your addition to my statement  WeDidIt   May-11-10 09:07 AM   #36 
           - Yup  zipplewrath   May-11-10 09:09 AM   #37 
     - Everything sounds great  kctim   May-11-10 09:05 AM   #33 
        - It was cheaper than this  zipplewrath   May-11-10 09:07 AM   #35 
        - Yep, the math is too simple  WeDidIt   May-11-10 09:14 AM   #40 
        - A smaller paycheck  kctim   May-11-10 09:44 AM   #42 
           - It was to be paid by the top 5%  zipplewrath   May-11-10 09:48 AM   #43 
              - Sorry  kctim   May-11-10 10:48 AM   #49 
                 - Obama rejected it  zipplewrath   May-11-10 10:53 AM   #51 
                    - He rejected it  kctim   May-11-10 11:08 AM   #52 
                       - Believe what you will  zipplewrath   May-11-10 11:09 AM   #53 
        - It's all in how you present it  depakid   May-11-10 09:10 AM   #38 
           - I don't totally disagree  kctim   May-11-10 09:57 AM   #46 
              - Public option  zipplewrath   May-11-10 11:13 AM   #54 
              - Show me  kctim   May-11-10 12:01 PM   #59 
                 - Um, SS and medicare are WILDLY popular  zipplewrath   May-11-10 12:12 PM   #61 
              - So they want EVEN WORSE and unaccountable insurance parasites running things  depakid   May-11-10 11:36 AM   #56 
                 - I agree  kctim   May-11-10 12:07 PM   #60 
     - The vast majority of the evidence beyond shallow self labelling shows that's absolutely incorrect  depakid   May-11-10 08:59 AM   #32 
     - Most Americans claim to be religious  Bluenorthwest   May-11-10 09:13 AM   #39 
     - The problem is, policy ALWAYS gets labeled  WeDidIt   May-11-10 10:22 AM   #48 
     - Gallup-own by the GOP  Lorien   May-11-10 12:54 PM   #68 
  - BULLSHIT straight from Faux.  Lorien   May-11-10 12:54 PM   #67 
  - Sure And Get 10% Of The Vote...Maybe...More Like 5  KharmaTrain   May-11-10 07:30 AM   #17 
  - I think about this a lot  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-11-10 07:45 AM   #18 
  - The third party left is now the kingmaker in Great Britain  depakid   May-11-10 08:14 AM   #20 
  - It's my impression that the DCCC and the DSCC are doing everything  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-11-10 08:17 AM   #21 
     - The blue dogs are in the seats with the smallest swings- and thanks to their efforts  depakid   May-11-10 08:26 AM   #23 
  - third parties could be viable if we had european style IRV, but until then,  dionysus   May-11-10 08:27 AM   #24 
  - In many states-such as here in PA-the law restricts the chances  old mark   May-11-10 08:42 AM   #25 
  - That's what I wish we could do. You just cannot vote 3rd party in this country.  tranche   May-11-10 11:46 AM   #57 
  - those on the right within our own party hope we give up  fascisthunter   May-11-10 08:53 AM   #30 
  - If you are left of right-of-center in America,  branders seine   May-11-10 08:55 AM   #31 
  - Why must we weaken the party?  kctim   May-11-10 09:31 AM   #41 
  - You should be asking that question of the blue dogs- since they've been the ones  depakid   May-11-10 09:50 AM   #44 
     - Well  kctim   May-11-10 10:02 AM   #47 
        - You're the one who expressed concern about the party and seem to hold a dear spot for those  depakid   May-11-10 11:26 AM   #55 
           - True  kctim   May-11-10 01:35 PM   #70 
  - Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone,....  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-11-10 10:49 AM   #50 
  - We need to take back the Democratic Party from the DLCers who are  Cleita   May-11-10 12:39 PM   #62 
  - There's a place BUT.....  MicaelS   May-11-10 12:39 PM   #63 
  - Excuse me but the blue collar are the leftists.  Cleita   May-11-10 12:45 PM   #64 
  - Um, I think you are talking about liberals.  blindpig   May-11-10 12:53 PM   #66 
  - The place for the Left is on the streets.  blindpig   May-11-10 12:50 PM   #65 
  - Third parties, duet to the way the system  nadinbrzezinski   May-11-10 01:39 PM   #71 
  - What would a 3rd party be? I see 4 parties, not 2 or 3 in the future.  Jennicut   May-11-10 01:43 PM   #72 
     - Several states have stacked the deck against new parties - if you are not a  old mark   May-11-10 05:13 PM   #73 
        - True. I just see the public splitting into 4 groups.  Jennicut   May-11-10 10:53 PM   #74 
           - Actually we may be seeing the start of this - certainly on the right and  old mark   May-12-10 06:39 AM   #75 

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