| -Legalize *all* drugs now |
Oregone |
May-08-10 04:54 PM |
#0 |
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Have you ever dealt with a meth addict or oxy addict? |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 04:56 PM |
#1 |
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So what? Mickey Mouse shit |
Oregone |
May-08-10 05:00 PM |
#4 |
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Mickey Mouse nothing.. |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:04 PM |
#11 |
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Name removed |
May-08-10 05:26 PM |
#33 |
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Ever reach a breaking point where you realize the magnitude of *REAL* problems simply outweighs... |
Oregone |
May-08-10 06:12 PM |
#89 |
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Sorry wrong post... |
midnight |
May-08-10 05:43 PM |
#58 |
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As an addict/alcoholic, I heartily agree. |
cliffordu |
May-08-10 06:01 PM |
#77 |
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The Question is Whether You Recovered |
discocrisco01 |
May-10-10 12:13 PM |
#286 |
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we don't ever have to deal with meth or oxy addicts... |
mike_c |
May-08-10 05:00 PM |
#5 |
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You never had held the hand of a meth addict.. that is obvious. |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:03 PM |
#8 |
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and said meth addict chose to addict themselves to meth |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:12 PM |
#17 |
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People are not all wired the same way. |
Dr Morbius |
May-08-10 05:14 PM |
#21 |
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Meth can kill you the first time you use it.. and have you hooked by the second or third |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:16 PM |
#25 |
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yes, and anyone in the usa who starts meth already knows that |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:21 PM |
#31 |
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And we could probably send every addict in the country to treatment... |
laughingliberal |
May-09-10 01:58 PM |
#228 |
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Obviously you have never been addicted to anything |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 05:38 PM |
#53 |
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I had no control with the alcohol |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:52 PM |
#69 |
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You were not addicted |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:08 PM |
#82 |
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I am serious here |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 06:11 PM |
#87 |
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Your "mental addiction" is nothing compared to physical addiction |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:32 PM |
#101 |
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LOL. Stupidest post of the day. |
Statistical |
May-09-10 09:10 AM |
#199 |
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all addicts CHOOSE to start their habits |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:03 PM |
#314 |
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That's an alcohol argument, not a meth argument |
dsn |
May-09-10 12:20 PM |
#210 |
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I still say they choose to addict themselves |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:04 PM |
#315 |
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my neighbor is a tweaker and so are several other folks in my neighborhood.... |
mike_c |
May-08-10 05:15 PM |
#23 |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
May-09-10 02:00 PM |
#229 |
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Throwing them in jail doesn't do shit so so what? |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 06:05 PM |
#81 |
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So you are saying we should make meth illegal? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-08-10 08:50 PM |
#127 |
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Sure..legalize any drug |
unlegendary |
May-09-10 10:39 PM |
#276 |
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i'm going to guess that factory produced methamphetamine is far less dangerous thent he shit people |
dionysus |
May-11-10 08:52 AM |
#293 |
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supposedly the meth here in France comes in pills |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:20 PM |
#322 |
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then most likely it's far less dangerous. |
dionysus |
May-11-10 02:35 PM |
#335 |
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That has nothing to do with legal or illegal. |
roody |
May-09-10 10:23 AM |
#206 |
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Untrue in my case. Have held the hand of many addicts. |
laughingliberal |
May-09-10 01:54 PM |
#227 |
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Exactly |
Oregone |
May-08-10 05:06 PM |
#13 |
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they will take them regardless of whether they are legal or not. legalize them and regulate them. |
spanone |
May-08-10 05:03 PM |
#9 |
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Less people will take them if they are illegal n/t |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 05:47 PM |
#64 |
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who cannot get illegal drugs within an hour or two? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:48 PM |
#66 |
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I have no idea where to get Crack, Heroin, Meth..... n/t |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:01 PM |
#76 |
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the nearest trailer park or housing projects would be a good start |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 06:02 PM |
#79 |
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That is uselessly vague directions, I still couldn't get narcotics if I wanted them |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:13 PM |
#92 |
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really??? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 06:18 PM |
#94 |
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So I would have to go around approaching large groups of gang bangers |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:27 PM |
#98 |
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Believe it or not, it's easier than you think and |
JoeyT |
May-08-10 10:26 PM |
#136 |
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You're right about the "gateway" |
Cresent City Kid |
May-08-10 11:24 PM |
#161 |
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Even back in the 70's I was making this argument about the 'gateway.' |
laughingliberal |
May-09-10 02:07 PM |
#230 |
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Very true |
Oregone |
May-09-10 06:08 PM |
#241 |
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Sounds prohibitively difficult to me |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 12:38 PM |
#214 |
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2 hours worth of work for someone that's never seen either drug in person |
JoeyT |
May-09-10 02:42 PM |
#232 |
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2 hours for YOU |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 03:49 PM |
#233 |
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they did a report on the news in france |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:08 PM |
#317 |
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"Compared to legal access in a store" |
Oregone |
May-09-10 06:12 PM |
#242 |
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Not in stores, but in dispensaries |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 08:30 PM |
#254 |
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"That sounds down right easy" |
Oregone |
May-09-10 08:54 PM |
#256 |
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Yeah, if you do that it will be easy to get drugs |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 09:21 PM |
#260 |
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So fuckn what? |
Oregone |
May-09-10 09:28 PM |
#261 |
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Do you want there to be more drug addicts? |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 09:48 PM |
#264 |
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Nope, and I also want less harm from those that are just going to do it |
Oregone |
May-09-10 09:56 PM |
#265 |
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You say "nope", but your policies are sure to cause increased drug use |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 10:14 PM |
#269 |
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Yep, eliminating drug pushers, education and regulation is "sure to cause increased drug use" |
Oregone |
May-09-10 10:17 PM |
#270 |
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Making hard drugs cheap and easy to get is sure to increase drug use |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 10:24 PM |
#272 |
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And "common sense" also dictates prohibition creates a better world |
Oregone |
May-09-10 10:34 PM |
#275 |
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hard drugs are cheap and easy to get |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:00 PM |
#313 |
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the cannabis use rate of the Netherlands is lower than that of |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:10 PM |
#318 |
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dealers market |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:11 PM |
#319 |
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people take the notion of legalizing herb, which should be done, to bizarre extremes. |
dionysus |
May-11-10 11:16 AM |
#303 |
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The "war on drugs" is a bizarre extreme |
Oregone |
May-11-10 11:45 AM |
#305 |
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I never said meth or hard drugs were harmless |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:13 PM |
#320 |
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go to the city, find people wearing similar colors hanging in a group |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:06 PM |
#316 |
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If you wanted them you'd figure it out. Really, you would. |
JanMichael |
May-09-10 09:02 PM |
#257 |
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sad to say but here is how it works |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:18 PM |
#321 |
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the case for harm reduction is full of the fail. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-08-10 08:51 PM |
#129 |
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There is absolutely no evidence to support this assertion. |
Greyhound |
May-09-10 03:47 AM |
#180 |
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ever dealt with an alcoholic? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:09 PM |
#15 |
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Yes I have dealt with alcoholics.. Yes I have dealt with Heroin addicts |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:14 PM |
#19 |
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i know meth is a nightmare |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:20 PM |
#29 |
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Reggie, I had to hold and care for a 14 month old baby |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:28 PM |
#38 |
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they remembered |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:31 PM |
#43 |
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Reggie it is different..Honest to GOD different. |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:36 PM |
#48 |
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is meth different in the USA from the meth here in France??? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:40 PM |
#54 |
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I am working with little Moms who were addicted after the first hit. |
Peacetrain |
May-08-10 05:44 PM |
#59 |
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did they know the risk when they started? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:48 PM |
#65 |
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Do have any idea what Crystal Meth is? |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 05:57 PM |
#73 |
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meth amphetamine |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 06:01 PM |
#78 |
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I don't think it that is the same |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:45 PM |
#109 |
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It is the same plus tons of impurities, dosage irregularities, etc. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-11-10 06:12 AM |
#290 |
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As always, it's a matter of social class. |
LeftyMom |
May-08-10 07:31 PM |
#112 |
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Good point. Class war plays into the drug war. |
JNelson6563 |
May-09-10 06:51 AM |
#193 |
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Thank you! 100% accurate analysis of the issue! nt |
laughingliberal |
May-10-10 12:22 AM |
#279 |
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the meth tweakers cook up in a garage is way, way different from laboratory produced speed. |
dionysus |
May-11-10 08:57 AM |
#294 |
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so if lab speed is less bad for users |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:22 PM |
#323 |
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back when it was lab speed, it was made by pharma and prescribed by doctors. i don't know the |
dionysus |
May-11-10 02:30 PM |
#333 |
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You must be incredibly strong. |
JNelson6563 |
May-09-10 06:54 AM |
#195 |
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Thank you for bearing the burden of hard drug use |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 12:32 PM |
#213 |
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How do draconian drugs laws change that in any way, or more importantly |
ixion |
May-08-10 05:14 PM |
#22 |
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you can decriminalize a drug, it doesn't make it legal per se. you just won't lock people up for it. |
dionysus |
May-11-10 08:59 AM |
#295 |
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Is legalization and decriminalization the same? |
fortune |
May-08-10 05:19 PM |
#28 |
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decrim keeps production and sales illegal |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:26 PM |
#34 |
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they'll still be there notwithstanding the legal status of the substances |
datasuspect |
May-08-10 05:53 PM |
#72 |
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I have on both counts |
Warpy |
May-08-10 06:09 PM |
#86 |
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I think you're confusing "legalizing" with "encouraging". |
Lyric |
May-08-10 06:42 PM |
#108 |
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You are right. Drunks are so much more pleasant. |
PM Martin |
May-08-10 10:40 PM |
#139 |
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You seem to think the legalization of them would cause rampant new use |
tavalon |
May-09-10 08:15 AM |
#196 |
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If Meth and oxy were legal, safe and available, they wouldn't be killing/hurting/destroying others |
Taverner |
May-09-10 12:30 PM |
#212 |
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Over ninety percent of all drug use is related to marijuana -- |
truedelphi |
May-09-10 12:45 PM |
#217 |
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Have you ever dealt with an alcoholic? n/t |
superduperfarleft |
May-09-10 12:55 PM |
#223 |
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I don't think you'd have to legalize "all" drugs |
Ex Lurker |
May-09-10 04:26 PM |
#238 |
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I haven't had to 'deal' with an oxycontin addict, but I've listened to Rush Limblah... |
AnArmyVeteran |
May-10-10 10:37 AM |
#282 |
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Rush Limbaugh Is Sober But Does Not Work Steps |
discocrisco01 |
May-10-10 12:12 PM |
#285 |
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It would take Rush Limbaugh 10,000 years to just get by the restitution step. |
AnArmyVeteran |
May-12-10 09:04 AM |
#344 |
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I would not agree with legalizing all drugs. |
Dr Morbius |
May-08-10 04:58 PM |
#2 |
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"marijuana merely robs ambition" |
Oregone |
May-08-10 05:02 PM |
#7 |
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That is Flat Wrong... and I think you know it. |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-08-10 05:29 PM |
#40 |
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drug tests to flip bugers have nothing to do with that eh? n/t |
nebenaube |
May-08-10 05:52 PM |
#71 |
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with all due respect... |
mike_c |
May-08-10 05:05 PM |
#12 |
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Very well. I will alter my statement to this: |
Dr Morbius |
May-08-10 05:10 PM |
#16 |
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mmmm soma |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:15 PM |
#24 |
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The most ambitious and successful people I know use pot |
Bluenorthwest |
May-08-10 05:45 PM |
#62 |
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It robs the ambition of people whose ambition is easily taken from them. |
Iggo |
May-09-10 04:16 PM |
#236 |
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robs ambition???? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:14 PM |
#20 |
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A few questions from one toker to another... |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-08-10 05:37 PM |
#49 |
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an honest answer to an honest question |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:44 PM |
#60 |
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Thanks for the answer. |
cherokeeprogressive |
May-08-10 05:52 PM |
#70 |
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I know. The PhD I am getting must be an illusion since |
CBR |
May-09-10 06:47 AM |
#192 |
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I deal with speed freaks all day. |
Codeine |
May-08-10 05:00 PM |
#3 |
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Don't agree. Not all drugs are created equal. |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:02 PM |
#6 |
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"Keep meth and heroin illegal but treat it as a health issue, not a criminal one" |
Oregone |
May-08-10 05:04 PM |
#10 |
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Right now users do jail time. |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:29 PM |
#39 |
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You think mandating treatment as punishment will work? |
Oregone |
May-08-10 05:37 PM |
#51 |
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"Regardless, its a better approach than just locking them up" |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:42 PM |
#55 |
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you know, some people actually LIKE heroin and meth |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:17 PM |
#26 |
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As long as that pursuit fucks up no one but themselves I have no problems with that. |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:21 PM |
#30 |
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honestly no, they only hurt themselves |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:24 PM |
#32 |
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What of the users children, or do only single people get addicted? |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:30 PM |
#42 |
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If they cant take care of their kids |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:33 PM |
#44 |
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That's pretty fucked. |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:43 PM |
#56 |
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you are correct that was fucked up of me to even think that |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:46 PM |
#63 |
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! |
Swamp Rat |
May-08-10 06:14 PM |
#93 |
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We all have our moments, Reggie. |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 11:09 PM |
#152 |
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You think children mistreated by addicts will make your children better off? |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 04:06 PM |
#235 |
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like i said to the other poster |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:44 PM |
#328 |
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I have few doubts it may appear that way.... |
LanternWaste |
May-11-10 12:23 PM |
#310 |
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what of the children of alcoholics, or tobacco users...? |
mike_c |
May-08-10 05:37 PM |
#50 |
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As a child of both, I have no real argument to that. |
Forkboy |
May-08-10 05:52 PM |
#68 |
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Hell yes, they hurt others |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 05:57 PM |
#74 |
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stealing is illegal, punish theives for that |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 06:08 PM |
#83 |
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Heroin addicts don't "go on with their lives" |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 06:11 PM |
#88 |
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John Lennon didnt go on with his life? |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 06:12 PM |
#90 |
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He did when he got off heroin. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 06:28 PM |
#99 |
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John Lennon was a multi millionaire for years before using heroin |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 03:59 PM |
#234 |
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of course they do.... |
mike_c |
May-08-10 06:31 PM |
#100 |
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Look them up and see if they're still "functioning addicts." |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 06:36 PM |
#104 |
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Crimes related to drug acquisition would be eliminated. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-08-10 08:58 PM |
#130 |
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"The medical consequences of heroin addiction are relatively minor." |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:14 PM |
#156 |
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I'll refer you to wiki. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-09-10 10:02 AM |
#204 |
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. |
Sparkly |
May-09-10 10:51 AM |
#207 |
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Your source is biased and does not separate WOD induced harm. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-09-10 12:53 PM |
#221 |
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"Keep meth and heroin illegal but treat it as a health issue, not a criminal one" |
dionysus |
May-11-10 09:01 AM |
#296 |
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legalize it all, the current system of distribution of drugs |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:07 PM |
#14 |
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Actually, it is illegal |
Texasgal |
May-08-10 05:26 PM |
#35 |
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It is legal to be an alcoholic |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:28 PM |
# |
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We could say the same for drug addicts |
Texasgal |
May-08-10 05:30 PM |
#41 |
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drug testing for jobs, wire taps |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:34 PM |
#45 |
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You have a point... |
Texasgal |
May-08-10 05:38 PM |
#52 |
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that would certainly end all the negative externalities, mainly crime.... |
amborin |
May-08-10 05:14 PM |
#18 |
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what has ruined more lives, drugs, or the war on them? |
G_j |
May-08-10 05:19 PM |
#27 |
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to be clear |
G_j |
May-09-10 06:43 PM |
#245 |
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Supported. Here is why it should be legal and how it should be handled: |
Meldread |
May-08-10 05:27 PM |
#36 |
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I support legalizing marijuana |
rollin74 |
May-08-10 05:28 PM |
#37 |
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Concur |
discocrisco01 |
May-10-10 12:14 PM |
#287 |
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That only works if you pretend that narcotics use is harmless |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 05:34 PM |
#46 |
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why should drug users be persecuted |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:35 PM |
#47 |
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Do Alcohol and Narcotics have the same effects? |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 05:45 PM |
#61 |
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my drugs of choice are less harmful than alcohol |
reggie the dog |
May-08-10 05:50 PM |
#67 |
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I support Marijuana legalization |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 06:36 PM |
#103 |
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I agree, Taiter. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 06:38 PM |
#105 |
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then why embrace alcohol use throughout our culture...? |
mike_c |
May-08-10 05:43 PM |
#57 |
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There are differences. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 06:04 PM |
#80 |
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I think you're succumbing to anti-drug propaganda.... |
mike_c |
May-08-10 06:26 PM |
#97 |
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"Who are you and I to tell people what they can and can't put in their own veins?" |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 06:35 PM |
#102 |
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"Criminalization is sometimes the only thing that has an effect." |
mike_c |
May-08-10 07:20 PM |
#111 |
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I couldn't disagree more. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 07:59 PM |
#116 |
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Why wasn't everyone a cocaine and/or opiate addict when they were legal? |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
May-08-10 08:08 PM |
#119 |
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Not quite right. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 08:22 PM |
#120 |
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You can't force people into treatment |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 10:50 PM |
#141 |
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You sure can. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:03 PM |
#147 |
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Do you think the kids mandated into rehab take it seriously? |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:06 PM |
#149 |
| -
You can't make universal statements about it. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:09 PM |
#151 |
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How do you do this? |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:16 PM |
#157 |
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Yes. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:21 PM |
#160 |
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If that were true, nobody would get clean. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:30 PM |
#163 |
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"Obnoxious" |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:34 PM |
#167 |
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If it's your family, you clearly have more authority |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:35 PM |
#169 |
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Actually, when legal they were MUCH more widely available |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
May-09-10 09:03 AM |
#198 |
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Have you noticed that rational argument has no effect w.r.t. the WOD? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-09-10 02:07 PM |
#231 |
| -
I understand the argument |
Sparkly |
May-09-10 05:38 PM |
#240 |
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"one shot of heroin might" |
Warren Stupidity |
May-08-10 09:03 PM |
#131 |
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Bullshit. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:06 PM |
#150 |
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"Heroin is deadly" |
Oregone |
May-09-10 03:35 AM |
#178 |
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with legalization overdose deaths would be reduced |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:26 AM |
#182 |
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Actually, strong-opiates are unusually safe drugs |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
May-09-10 09:18 AM |
#200 |
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well, only if these dosage is too high or it's cut with poison. that said.. nasty stuff. |
dionysus |
May-11-10 11:08 AM |
#300 |
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Wow: "People must be arrested and forced into rehab in order to get well." |
Flaneur |
May-09-10 06:59 PM |
#249 |
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true to some extent.. |
nebenaube |
May-08-10 06:00 PM |
#75 |
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Not a bit. I don't pretend all drugs are safe at all |
Oregone |
May-08-10 06:24 PM |
#96 |
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But criminalizing doesn't create more problems than legalizing |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 07:33 PM |
#113 |
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Right-O. Nope. Criminalizing sure doesn't create a black market ran by armed cartels of assholes |
Oregone |
May-08-10 07:47 PM |
#115 |
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It is still better than having legal hard drugs |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 08:45 PM |
#125 |
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Why? Drug pushers with uzis are better than some regulated dispensiary? |
Oregone |
May-08-10 09:15 PM |
#133 |
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You are creating a false dilemma |
Taitertots |
May-08-10 09:51 PM |
#134 |
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The status quo of the black market is just that |
Oregone |
May-08-10 10:30 PM |
#137 |
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That is still a false dilemma |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 02:39 AM |
#172 |
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"We reform the penal system, which will reduce crime." |
Oregone |
May-09-10 02:55 AM |
#175 |
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People seem to think you can simply force people to stop using drugs. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-09-10 03:37 AM |
#179 |
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exactly |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:32 AM |
#184 |
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If you want to stop drug dealers you stop drug users |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 12:27 PM |
#211 |
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Throwing addicts in jail after they are hooked eliminates drug users? |
Oregone |
May-09-10 12:51 PM |
#219 |
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Your easy solution to preventing drug use is to make drugs easily available |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 01:25 PM |
#225 |
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Drugs are easily available. My solution is to make them regulated & controlled, and stress education |
Oregone |
May-09-10 01:40 PM |
#226 |
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You believe legalization will make drugs less available? |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 04:21 PM |
#237 |
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How can you get it from friends when its sold in limited quantities at a time to a specific person |
Oregone |
May-09-10 05:29 PM |
#239 |
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Going and getting a license sounds dramatically easier |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 06:31 PM |
#243 |
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Than driving to the shitty part of town? |
Oregone |
May-09-10 06:55 PM |
#248 |
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It is not JUST driving through the shitty part of town thou is it |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 07:40 PM |
#251 |
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"You have to find and approach potentially armed drug dealers" |
Oregone |
May-09-10 08:51 PM |
#255 |
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Again with the false dilemma |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 09:13 PM |
#258 |
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You endorse reforming the penal system...I got that.... |
Oregone |
May-09-10 09:18 PM |
#259 |
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The black market doesn't produce addicts |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 09:31 PM |
#262 |
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It does when they give out free goodie samples |
Oregone |
May-09-10 09:35 PM |
#263 |
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We are at an impasse |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 10:04 PM |
#268 |
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"Drug prohibition will only work with a functional penal system" |
Oregone |
May-09-10 10:19 PM |
#271 |
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Only if you pretend that changing the justice system will have no effect |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 10:31 PM |
#273 |
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You mean for after users are already addicted from buying from the black market?!? |
Oregone |
May-09-10 10:32 PM |
#274 |
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No, targeting the black market and the drug dealers |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 10:40 PM |
#277 |
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Targeting the black market by making a "war" on them? |
Oregone |
May-09-10 10:47 PM |
#278 |
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My goodness, listen to yourself! |
Flaneur |
May-09-10 06:50 PM |
#247 |
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try to stop me from smoking reefer |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 12:59 PM |
#312 |
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weed is as cheap or cheaper than it was when i started 17 years ago |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:31 AM |
#183 |
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How does imprisoning people for using drugs equate to helping them? |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 10:55 PM |
#145 |
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Clearly this isn't something you understand. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:12 PM |
#154 |
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Been to more than a few. Don't make assumptions. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:18 PM |
#159 |
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And you still ask how keeping them from drugs helps them?? |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:25 PM |
#162 |
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I never asked that. I asked how making criminals out of non-criminals is beneficial to anybody. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:32 PM |
#165 |
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I am through discussing this with you. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:35 PM |
#170 |
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How is making the dangerous, addictive substances available to them beneficial to anybody? |
Taitertots |
May-09-10 02:48 AM |
#173 |
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Its already is available for all through Uzi armed thugs... |
Oregone |
May-09-10 03:13 AM |
#176 |
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yes, someone else gets it! |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:44 AM |
#188 |
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They're already available. You're naive if you think otherwise. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-09-10 03:27 AM |
#177 |
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a stern talking to will do nothing |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:42 AM |
#187 |
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What wll help them is this |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:39 AM |
#185 |
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... |
RedCappedBandit |
May-09-10 06:44 PM |
#246 |
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So everything not harmless should be illegal and folks would benefit from prison... |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
May-08-10 07:35 PM |
#114 |
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Not "everything." This isn't "all" or "nothing." |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 08:24 PM |
#122 |
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Criminalizing drugs does nothing except make drug users criminals. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 06:08 PM |
#84 |
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I agree, with the caveat that ALL TREATMENT programs are FREE |
Duer 157099 |
May-08-10 06:09 PM |
#85 |
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There would be more than enough money left over to do it |
Oregone |
May-08-10 06:21 PM |
#95 |
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dont forget that taxes from mdma, lsd cannabis etc |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:45 AM |
#189 |
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Sanest post of the year |
Swamp Rat |
May-08-10 06:13 PM |
#91 |
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WHAT?! and threaten the prison-industrial complex? |
SocialistLez |
May-08-10 06:40 PM |
#106 |
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WHAT?! and threaten the prison-industrial complex?! |
SocialistLez |
May-08-10 06:41 PM |
#107 |
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I say legalize cannabis and decriminalize everything else. No sense in locking people up for drugs. |
krabigirl |
May-08-10 07:11 PM |
#110 |
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Unless it's for treatment. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 08:02 PM |
#117 |
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How do you forcibly treat someone? Can't be done. People should not be locked up for drugs, period |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 10:36 PM |
#138 |
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Same way it's done for mental illness. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 10:50 PM |
#142 |
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Which is what? |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:04 PM |
#148 |
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Oh for God's sake. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:11 PM |
#153 |
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So, do you keep them locked up until you're confident they won't go home and relapse? |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:18 PM |
#158 |
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You're never confident. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:30 PM |
#164 |
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I'm not suggesting anybody gives up. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-08-10 11:33 PM |
#166 |
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I am through discussing this with you. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 11:34 PM |
#168 |
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drug use is not like mental illness |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:47 AM |
#191 |
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Yes, it is. |
Sparkly |
May-09-10 10:54 AM |
#208 |
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Please post some numbers to back that assertion. |
Flaneur |
May-09-10 07:18 PM |
#250 |
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Surprised, huh? |
Sparkly |
May-10-10 12:07 PM |
#284 |
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????? Most heroin addicts I know or have known |
reggie the dog |
May-10-10 09:53 AM |
#281 |
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Same here. |
RedCappedBandit |
May-10-10 11:55 AM |
#283 |
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All drugs? No. |
proteus_lives |
May-08-10 08:07 PM |
#118 |
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That sums it up. |
Sparkly |
May-08-10 08:23 PM |
#121 |
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Crack, meth, and some other drugs aren't safe. |
chrisa |
May-08-10 08:29 PM |
#123 |
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A ton of pharmaceuticals aren't safe |
Oregone |
May-08-10 08:38 PM |
#124 |
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so are you saying that people "sniff" crack? |
datasuspect |
May-08-10 08:51 PM |
#128 |
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Agreed. |
Robeson |
May-08-10 08:48 PM |
#126 |
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Consider it done ~ |
bridgit |
May-08-10 09:08 PM |
#132 |
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Um, no thanks |
usregimechange |
May-08-10 09:54 PM |
#135 |
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Aren't more kids using stuff lying around the house and in their parents medicine cabinets? |
Jennicut |
May-08-10 10:48 PM |
#140 |
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Pharma drugs are killing a ton of kids these days |
Oregone |
May-08-10 10:54 PM |
#144 |
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It is easier access for them. And what parent is going to think that |
Jennicut |
May-08-10 11:12 PM |
#155 |
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I say defund all the drug warriors and use that money for education and rehab. |
MODem75 |
May-08-10 10:52 PM |
#143 |
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-1 |
CommonSensePLZ |
May-08-10 11:00 PM |
#146 |
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Drug are bad. |
CommonSensePLZ |
May-09-10 12:03 AM |
#171 |
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It sounds to me as if we need to educate people about the |
kas125 |
May-09-10 02:51 AM |
#174 |
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Some would have you believe they don't exist |
RedCappedBandit |
May-09-10 04:13 AM |
#181 |
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I dont know about heroin or meth but i know that mdma and cocaine |
reggie the dog |
May-09-10 06:51 AM |
#194 |
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If it pisses off all the Right people, I'm all for it |
Echo In Light |
May-09-10 06:41 AM |
#186 |
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I disagree |
Dorian Gray |
May-09-10 06:46 AM |
#190 |
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Wow, I've never met another person who espoused that opinion |
tavalon |
May-09-10 08:21 AM |
#197 |
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copy pasted my below reply to you here.. |
mdmc |
May-09-10 09:31 AM |
#203 |
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Life, liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS--unalienable rights! |
randr |
May-09-10 09:18 AM |
#201 |
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k/r |
mdmc |
May-09-10 09:27 AM |
#202 |
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Portugal has decriminalized drug possession. |
roody |
May-09-10 10:21 AM |
#205 |
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Hey, Oligarchs, ever hear of a marijuana fueled lynch mob? |
Strelnikov_ |
May-09-10 11:23 AM |
#209 |
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150% agree. Drug laws drive violent crime, poverty, and destroy already |
Pavulon |
May-09-10 12:39 PM |
#215 |
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I forget the actual stats, but marijuana use |
truedelphi |
May-09-10 12:43 PM |
#216 |
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nope |
backwoodsbob |
May-09-10 12:46 PM |
#218 |
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PLEASE STOP THIS PISSING CONTEST |
robdogbucky |
May-09-10 12:52 PM |
#220 |
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when it comes to defending the WOD, it is FAITH not FACTS |
Warren Stupidity |
May-09-10 12:59 PM |
#224 |
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The drug warriors, as you call them are archaic. |
PM Martin |
May-09-10 08:21 PM |
#252 |
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All drugs would be legalized tomorrow if corporations could completely control their sales... |
AnArmyVeteran |
May-09-10 12:55 PM |
#222 |
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Yep. Legalize, tax, treat people if and when they become addicts. |
BreweryYardRat |
May-09-10 06:37 PM |
#244 |
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Hope this works: |
wildbilln864 |
May-09-10 08:28 PM |
#253 |
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Go to YouTube and type "russian kids shooting up" into the search bar. You can't unwatch it, though. |
Poll_Blind |
May-09-10 09:58 PM |
#266 |
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Alcohol is legal....so we permit kids to use it? |
Oregone |
May-09-10 10:01 PM |
#267 |
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i watched kids shoot up when i was a teen |
reggie the dog |
May-11-10 01:46 PM |
#331 |
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The government should not only legalize all drugs, it should supply them |
xrdan |
May-10-10 09:47 AM |
#280 |
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LOL @ Government Sterilization Program. |
Iggo |
May-10-10 02:50 PM |
#288 |
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What free society? |
Oregone |
May-10-10 11:10 PM |
#289 |
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The same. |
Iggo |
May-11-10 08:41 AM |
#291 |
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have you any idea how dangerous meth and methheads are? |
dionysus |
May-11-10 08:49 AM |
#292 |
| -
Yep. I still don't care |
Oregone |
May-11-10 10:14 AM |
#297 |
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i garauntee you'd change your tune if you had firsthand experience with it. actually, since it's you |
dionysus |
May-11-10 10:47 AM |
#298 |
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I guarantee I have and I still don't care |
Oregone |
May-11-10 11:01 AM |
#299 |
| -
well it's sure a good thing it's illegal, since that obviously keeps people from doing it |
anarch |
May-11-10 11:10 AM |
#301 |
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you could decriminalize it and use treatment instead of prison, but over the counter crank is a bad, |
dionysus |
May-11-10 11:13 AM |
#302 |
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crank is a bad idea in general, in my opinion |
anarch |
May-11-10 11:22 AM |
#304 |
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And such people are not "in the system" most often since what they want is illegal |
Oregone |
May-11-10 11:48 AM |
#307 |
| -
Poison crank bought by unlicensed users in unlimited quantities from gun wielding fucks is better |
Oregone |
May-11-10 11:46 AM |
#306 |
| -
we survived from 1930 - 1970 or so with legal meth. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-11-10 01:29 PM |
#324 |
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knowing that bathtub meth is bad / = supporting the war on drugs. but hey, you can |
dionysus |
May-11-10 01:34 PM |
#325 |
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And I personally will continue to do so |
Oregone |
May-11-10 01:40 PM |
#327 |
| -
the only difference between you and me on this, would be meth and crack. i don't have a problem with |
dionysus |
May-11-10 01:45 PM |
#330 |
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"i'd have no problem with decriminalizing it" |
Oregone |
May-11-10 01:53 PM |
#332 |
| -
i'm only half joking when i say, i'd tell people to avoid that shit and go for legalized vicodin. |
dionysus |
May-11-10 02:32 PM |
#334 |
| -
I hate opiates with a passion |
Oregone |
May-11-10 02:37 PM |
#336 |
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i agree on herb. as for opiates, pain pills (not H) when you have a blown out back, |
dionysus |
May-11-10 02:43 PM |
#337 |
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I have a blow out back actually |
Oregone |
May-11-10 02:54 PM |
#338 |
| -
i blew my lowest disc completely out . any worse and it would have needed surgery. for some reason, |
dionysus |
May-11-10 02:57 PM |
#339 |
| -
"bathtub meth" exists only because of the WOD. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-11-10 03:10 PM |
#342 |
| -
"none of them beneficial to society" |
Oregone |
May-11-10 01:35 PM |
#326 |
| -
well yes it does indeed benefit some. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-11-10 03:06 PM |
#340 |
| -
Portugal has... |
and-justice-for-all |
May-11-10 11:54 AM |
#308 |
| -
Try to argue the legalization of drugs on its own merit... |
LanternWaste |
May-11-10 12:22 PM |
#309 |
| -
I have spent most of this thread doing that |
Oregone |
May-11-10 12:58 PM |
#311 |
| -
A primer... |
LanternWaste |
May-11-10 01:44 PM |
#329 |
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This is the basis of the organization known as "NORML" |
Mojeoux |
May-11-10 03:49 PM |
#343 |
| -
INCLUDING GLUE ! ...oh wait. n/t |
UndertheOcean |
May-11-10 03:07 PM |
#341 |
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