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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 12:24 PM
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13. +1

Every day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.

We need single-payer health care NOW.

For any nazi lurkers reading this, even with "good" insurance, you're only one bad illness away from bankruptcy in our current system.

And your gated communities won't keep out diseases like TB; since morality doesn't move you, you should be concerned about diseases other people are carrying.

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  -Will businesses drop their health benefit programs? eridani  May-08-10 06:26 AM   #0 
  - Looks like retirees might be protected for awhile  Lasher   May-08-10 06:42 AM   #1 
  - And if your employer fucks you over by dropping your doctor, then what? n/t  eridani   May-09-10 04:04 AM   #19 
     - Then I guess you find a different doctor.  Lasher   May-09-10 04:12 AM   #21 
        - Or get single payer, which doesn't fuck people over by taking away their doctors n/t  eridani   May-09-10 06:10 AM   #24 
           - That's where I was coming from with the different country thing.  Lasher   May-09-10 08:15 AM   #27 
  - This is why we need a national single-payer system...  Scuba   May-08-10 06:44 AM   #2 
  - and in lieu of that...  ProdigalJunkMail   May-08-10 06:53 AM   #3 
  - +1  area51   May-08-10 12:24 PM   #13 
  - Good point (nt)  varelse   May-08-10 05:30 PM   #16 
  - Obama always was speaking out of his (fine) arse, re: "can keep". Employees ARE NOT IN CONTROL.  WinkyDink   May-08-10 06:59 AM   #4 
  - It's a mistake to have employers providing health insurance.  Lasher   May-08-10 11:58 AM   #9 
  - And 'you can't be  femrap   May-08-10 12:25 PM   #14 
  - Documents reveal AT&T, Verizon, others, thought about dropping employer-sponsored benefits  boston bean   May-08-10 07:09 AM   #5 
  - I hope my daughter's company drops health insurance.  canoeist52   May-08-10 07:45 AM   #6 
  - And the HCR passed emulates MA in that n/t  eridani   May-09-10 04:06 AM   #20 
  - The only solution, should this happen, is the  annabanana   May-08-10 07:47 AM   #7 
  - Without a union contract they can do anything they want  NNN0LHI   May-08-10 07:50 AM   #8 
  - It happened to a friend of mine.  Catshrink   May-08-10 12:05 PM   #10 
  - They will be subjected to a fine soon enough.....nt  Change Happens   May-09-10 08:24 AM   #29 
     - The company or my friend?  Catshrink   May-09-10 08:46 AM   #32 
        - The company.....A fine in the form of a tax to help cover people, I like the idea  Change Happens   May-09-10 08:59 AM   #34 
  - More likely that they will offer useless health care benefits.  undeterred   May-08-10 12:12 PM   #11 
  - SInce most businesses are in it for some sort of a profit, if the fine  Obamanaut   May-08-10 12:21 PM   #12 
  - you have to consider retention also  CTLawGuy   May-09-10 08:25 AM   #30 
  - knr ...  slipslidingaway   May-08-10 05:11 PM   #15 
  - They aren't spending $2.4 billion a year on coverage for its employees because they are nice  NNN0LHI   May-08-10 05:41 PM   #18 
  - That could be a good thing. Maybe more people will be in the exchanges and  NC_Nurse   May-08-10 05:39 PM   #17 
  - The critical point you are missing is that without reform, they can drop coverage with NO penalty.  BzaDem   May-09-10 05:50 AM   #22 
  - So, how do you decide whether you are a Platinum, Gold, Silver or Bronze human being?  eridani   May-09-10 06:12 AM   #25 
     - You are comparing healthcare reform to your pie-in-the-sky system. Not the previous status quo.  BzaDem   May-09-10 06:25 AM   #26 
        - A plan that drains your pocketbook before covering any actual care is useless  eridani   May-10-10 03:52 AM   #35 
           - "The whole notion that available care should depend in any way on income is absolute bullshit."  BzaDem   May-10-10 04:54 AM   #37 
              - When 82% support a public option, how is that "infeasible"?  eridani   May-10-10 02:44 PM   #40 
  - Most AT&T workers have a contract that guarantees health insurance  Omaha Steve   May-09-10 06:09 AM   #23 
  - Labor contracts eventually expire. Do you think AT&T workers will have health care in the next one?  jody   May-09-10 08:27 AM   #31 
     - Yes I do  Omaha Steve   May-10-10 06:12 AM   #39 
  - Good news , let them, it will lead to single payer! We already have the VA, Medicare, Medicaid, and  Change Happens   May-09-10 08:23 AM   #28 
  - They won't.  rucky   May-09-10 08:51 AM   #33 
     - "The ones that do follow through will find them unable to keep good employees for long."  depakid   May-10-10 04:11 AM   #36 
        - and especially when there are 20 people wanting a job, for every job "offered"  SoCalDem   May-10-10 06:08 AM   #38 

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