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Sun May-06-07 02:16 PM
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| 99. I read this thread early this morning and have been thinking about |
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the situation and what I would. But, what keeps coming up for me is that those of us who didn't support mindless nationalism (which is good for neither the mind nor the nation) when I was in high school wore black armbands as a way of expressing our sorrow for all the dead in Viet Nam, all of them. At first, just a few of us wore them but after a while you couldn't walk into any room on that campus without seeing them. I wonder if that flight attendant would have made the same gesture in the same way if she looked at the cabin and there were black armbands sprinkled around her field of vision. It's one thing to welcome someone home from a near brush with death. It's another altogether to use that occasion to aggrandize needless death and destruction, even unwittingly.  |
| -I just couldn't do it. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 01:37 PM |
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I'm not paralyzed |
proud2Blib |
May-05-07 01:38 PM |
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I don't think that is Iraq |
karlrschneider |
May-05-07 01:42 PM |
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Like it makes a difference? |
proud2Blib |
May-05-07 01:44 PM |
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You've never visited a third world country, have you? |
yibbehobba |
May-05-07 04:06 PM |
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He needs to come home |
proud2Blib |
May-05-07 05:38 PM |
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He'll probably be just as big an idiot at home as he is in Afghanistan. n/t |
yibbehobba |
May-05-07 06:43 PM |
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So let's have him stay there! |
proud2Blib |
May-05-07 06:57 PM |
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There does not appear... |
yibbehobba |
May-05-07 07:09 PM |
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Yes, THAT soldier is a heartless bastard, or plays one in that video. |
DemBones DemBones |
May-05-07 10:44 PM |
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Yes, war brings out the worst |
Carolina |
May-05-07 11:21 PM |
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I'm guessing Afghanistan, but can't say for sure. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 04:02 PM |
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Why does it matter? |
proud2Blib |
May-05-07 06:57 PM |
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I was not addressing you. It seems to matter to karlschneider. If it doesn't matter to you... |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 07:07 PM |
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Eh. A kid in danger every day being shadowed by beggging kids. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 04:02 PM |
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You've never been out of the counry, have you? |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-05-07 05:47 PM |
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Is that video supposed to bother me? |
joshcryer |
May-06-07 02:40 AM |
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Me neither... |
Jack_DeLeon |
May-07-07 06:35 AM |
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You should've yelled "welcome back, bring them all home now" but taking a risk. |
uppityperson |
May-05-07 01:40 PM |
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I know. I felt pathetic in two different dimensions. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 01:44 PM |
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However, I can very much understand your reluctance. |
uppityperson |
May-05-07 01:55 PM |
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Confession is good for the soul and we're all just doing what we can, Warren. |
DemBones DemBones |
May-05-07 11:18 PM |
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No Fly list, indeed! |
nathan hale |
May-06-07 06:23 AM |
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That would have been the best course but I doubt many of us |
DemBones DemBones |
May-05-07 10:53 PM |
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Indeed DemBones, indeed to all you wrote. |
uppityperson |
May-06-07 12:58 AM |
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"the perfect response comes to mind too late " |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 06:26 AM |
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In times of illegal war, |
michael_1166 |
May-05-07 01:50 PM |
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I'm not thrilled with compelling a captive audience to cheer. |
aquart |
May-05-07 01:56 PM |
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Don't take it out on the troops. |
meldroc |
May-05-07 01:56 PM |
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Don't feel guilty about not participating in mindless ballyhoo. |
mnhtnbb |
May-05-07 01:57 PM |
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My dad gave me one of his old blue denim |
durtee librul |
May-05-07 02:06 PM |
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A courageous stand |
dave_p |
May-05-07 02:03 PM |
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sorry you couldn't shout out your protest |
bigtree |
May-05-07 02:11 PM |
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I had a similar experience at a Twins game a couple weeks ago |
dflprincess |
May-05-07 02:47 PM |
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On a DUer's sig line... |
zidzi |
May-05-07 07:17 PM |
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Go easy on the kid |
gollygee |
May-05-07 02:51 PM |
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You don't have to support the war to honor someone who |
wienerdoggie |
May-05-07 02:55 PM |
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Excuse me? I think we failed the soldiers. We're the ones in charge here... |
originalpckelly |
May-05-07 02:57 PM |
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Another point to keep in mind: |
wienerdoggie |
May-05-07 03:03 PM |
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Well said |
DesertRat |
May-06-07 10:00 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
May-05-07 03:43 PM |
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I understand your reluctance to applaud. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 04:01 PM |
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So what? |
alarimer |
May-05-07 04:07 PM |
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You call these people sheep? |
yibbehobba |
May-05-07 04:16 PM |
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WS comported himself well. He simply abstained. |
Karenina |
May-05-07 04:24 PM |
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No one suggested that the author of the OP hang a medal on the soldier. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 05:32 PM |
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So oppose the war but applaud the warriors. Why? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 06:18 PM |
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Christ. You don't know any soldiers at all. Nevermind. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 07:04 PM |
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Wow you know what is in every soldiers heart and I don't |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 07:23 PM |
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Name removed |
May-05-07 09:09 PM |
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Why applaud if you didn't know he DID deserve it? that is making judgements also. |
uppityperson |
May-06-07 01:14 AM |
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Ask Mr. Stupidity if, after abstaining from the applause, if he spoke to the soldier. |
Buzz Clik |
May-06-07 08:43 AM |
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Why don't you ask me yourself? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 04:06 PM |
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I did ask you |
sanskritwarrior |
May-06-07 04:10 PM |
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Now you're making me ill. |
Buzz Clik |
May-06-07 07:50 PM |
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Well no you aren't. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-07-07 06:24 AM |
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Don Quixote was a hero |
TahitiNut |
May-05-07 08:24 PM |
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An interesting take on the whole issue. Thanks for that. n/t |
John Q. Citizen |
May-06-07 01:47 AM |
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Yeah actually it was about me. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 04:22 PM |
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We all know we're being used, and these soldiers are not only used but abused. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 05:34 PM |
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We all know we're being used? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 06:41 PM |
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That's a helluva reaction considering my initial response. |
Buzz Clik |
May-05-07 07:12 PM |
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"But it wasn't about you..." |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 07:26 PM |
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your so vain... |
Jack_DeLeon |
May-07-07 06:39 AM |
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Good for you |
alarimer |
May-05-07 04:04 PM |
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Agreed. |
Oregonian |
May-05-07 08:00 PM |
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Let's all give Warren Stupidity a round of applause! |
yibbehobba |
May-05-07 04:04 PM |
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I just can't do it. |
Lurking Dem |
May-05-07 04:09 PM |
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. |
bigtree |
May-05-07 06:03 PM |
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For what? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 04:24 PM |
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I was being silly! n/t |
yibbehobba |
May-05-07 04:26 PM |
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Well You're Entitled, But I'm Thankful Everyone Else Cheered And You Didn't Shout Out Your Comment. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-05-07 06:06 PM |
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Why? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 06:19 PM |
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Because I Think It Was The Last Place For Protest And That We All Should Cheer His Safe Return. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-05-07 06:21 PM |
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What is the right place for protest? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 07:28 PM |
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Now You're Just Trying To Be Silly. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-05-07 07:57 PM |
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Saying "Bring them all home" is considered offensive to returning soldiers? |
Lex |
May-05-07 11:53 PM |
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Not On Its Face, No. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-06-07 12:05 AM |
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I guess I don't consider "bring them all home" making one into a "protester" |
Lex |
May-06-07 12:28 AM |
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I'm A Bit Weirded Out By It As Well. But I Just Don't Feel The Need To Disrupt It Either. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-06-07 12:53 AM |
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So what is the right place for protest? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 06:12 AM |
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Simple. Any Place The Sentiment Of The Protest Outweighs The Sentiment Of What's Being Protested. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-06-07 09:24 AM |
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Very good point |
siligut |
May-06-07 03:23 PM |
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I agree |
spoony |
May-06-07 08:48 AM |
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Paralyzed is about right. |
Orsino |
May-05-07 06:44 PM |
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Thanks, Orsino! |
Karenina |
May-05-07 07:36 PM |
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I should have requested that all of his comrades also return |
Warren Stupidity |
May-05-07 07:44 PM |
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Yeah. That would be a true welcome... |
Orsino |
May-06-07 05:30 AM |
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I can understand that... |
stillcool47 |
May-05-07 07:18 PM |
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Thank you for your honesty, Warren Stupidity |
Pastiche423 |
May-05-07 08:10 PM |
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Exactly like the spitting in Vietnam started... |
TnDem |
May-05-07 08:19 PM |
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Except it didn't - the spit upon vietnam vet story has been debunked. nt |
glitch |
May-05-07 11:05 PM |
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There are still people who claim to be vets and to have been spit on, but the vet |
DemBones DemBones |
May-05-07 11:40 PM |
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Your story is bullshit. |
Vickers |
May-06-07 02:19 AM |
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suggestion..next time if this happens to anyone else and you feel |
flyarm |
May-05-07 08:57 PM |
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Nah. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 06:09 AM |
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At tonight's Twins game |
dflprincess |
May-05-07 11:25 PM |
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Which is why I decided to write about this. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 06:23 AM |
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I understand what you are saying and your conflicted feelings. |
Lex |
May-05-07 11:29 PM |
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Agreed. The soldiers are not high school football players "winning one for the Gipper" |
Buzz Clik |
May-06-07 08:39 AM |
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Because you have such disregard for the soldiers, here's a suggestion: |
Buzz Clik |
May-06-07 08:36 AM |
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Self-deleted. |
Lex |
May-06-07 12:26 PM |
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I suggest you take a deep breath. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 04:12 PM |
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Applauding was a way to welcome the soldier home. |
merh |
May-06-07 08:55 AM |
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"mindless nationilistic militarism" What bullshit! |
fishnfla |
May-06-07 10:25 AM |
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I hate being put in any situation where I'm |
LibDemAlways |
May-06-07 10:39 AM |
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Here you go -- 14 dead today. Your chance to show how much you really don't care. |
Buzz Clik |
May-06-07 02:07 PM |
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How exactly does warrior worship help that? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 04:10 PM |
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This is your big chance. |
Buzz Clik |
May-06-07 07:10 PM |
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Now I'm Fred Phelps? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-07-07 06:20 AM |
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I read this thread early this morning and have been thinking about |
sfexpat2000 |
May-06-07 02:16 PM |
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I think that is a good point and well worth considering. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-06-07 04:53 PM |
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This is the thing: BushCo put our people in harms way to line their pockets |
sfexpat2000 |
May-06-07 05:25 PM |
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I couldn't have either |
Solly Mack |
May-06-07 03:25 PM |
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Definitely blatant repuke attempts at forcing you to approve |
treestar |
May-06-07 03:30 PM |
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Thank You for sharing |
DianaForRussFeingold |
May-06-07 03:59 PM |
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Good On You! |
stirlingsliver |
May-06-07 04:18 PM |
#108 |
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