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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 02:16 PM
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99. I read this thread early this morning and have been thinking about
the situation and what I would. But, what keeps coming up for me is that those of us who didn't support mindless nationalism (which is good for neither the mind nor the nation) when I was in high school wore black armbands as a way of expressing our sorrow for all the dead in Viet Nam, all of them.

At first, just a few of us wore them but after a while you couldn't walk into any room on that campus without seeing them.

I wonder if that flight attendant would have made the same gesture in the same way if she looked at the cabin and there were black armbands sprinkled around her field of vision.

It's one thing to welcome someone home from a near brush with death. It's another altogether to use that occasion to aggrandize needless death and destruction, even unwittingly. :(
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  -I just couldn't do it. Warren Stupidity  May-05-07 01:37 PM   #0 
  - I'm not paralyzed  proud2Blib   May-05-07 01:38 PM   #1 
  - I don't think that is Iraq  karlrschneider   May-05-07 01:42 PM   #3 
  - Like it makes a difference?  proud2Blib   May-05-07 01:44 PM   #5 
  - You've never visited a third world country, have you?  yibbehobba   May-05-07 04:06 PM   #25 
  - He needs to come home  proud2Blib   May-05-07 05:38 PM   #35 
     - He'll probably be just as big an idiot at home as he is in Afghanistan. n/t  yibbehobba   May-05-07 06:43 PM   #43 
        - So let's have him stay there!  proud2Blib   May-05-07 06:57 PM   #46 
           - There does not appear...  yibbehobba   May-05-07 07:09 PM   #49 
  - Yes, THAT soldier is a heartless bastard, or plays one in that video.  DemBones DemBones   May-05-07 10:44 PM   #65 
  - Yes, war brings out the worst  Carolina   May-05-07 11:21 PM   #69 
  - I'm guessing Afghanistan, but can't say for sure.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 04:02 PM   #22 
     - Why does it matter?  proud2Blib   May-05-07 06:57 PM   #45 
        - I was not addressing you. It seems to matter to karlschneider. If it doesn't matter to you...  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 07:07 PM   #48 
  - Eh. A kid in danger every day being shadowed by beggging kids.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 04:02 PM   #21 
  - You've never been out of the counry, have you?  nadinbrzezinski   May-05-07 05:47 PM   #36 
  - Is that video supposed to bother me?  joshcryer   May-06-07 02:40 AM   #81 
     - Me neither...  Jack_DeLeon   May-07-07 06:35 AM   #115 
  - You should've yelled "welcome back, bring them all home now" but taking a risk.  uppityperson   May-05-07 01:40 PM   #2 
  - I know. I felt pathetic in two different dimensions.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 01:44 PM   #4 
  - However, I can very much understand your reluctance.  uppityperson   May-05-07 01:55 PM   #7 
  - Confession is good for the soul and we're all just doing what we can, Warren.  DemBones DemBones   May-05-07 11:18 PM   #68 
     - No Fly list, indeed!  nathan hale   May-06-07 06:23 AM   #86 
  - That would have been the best course but I doubt many of us  DemBones DemBones   May-05-07 10:53 PM   #66 
     - Indeed DemBones, indeed to all you wrote.  uppityperson   May-06-07 12:58 AM   #77 
     - "the perfect response comes to mind too late "  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 06:26 AM   #87 
  - In times of illegal war,  michael_1166   May-05-07 01:50 PM   #6 
  - I'm not thrilled with compelling a captive audience to cheer.  aquart   May-05-07 01:56 PM   #8 
  - Don't take it out on the troops.  meldroc   May-05-07 01:56 PM   #9 
  - Don't feel guilty about not participating in mindless ballyhoo.  mnhtnbb   May-05-07 01:57 PM   #10 
  - My dad gave me one of his old blue denim  durtee librul   May-05-07 02:06 PM   #12 
  - A courageous stand  dave_p   May-05-07 02:03 PM   #11 
  - sorry you couldn't shout out your protest  bigtree   May-05-07 02:11 PM   #13 
  - I had a similar experience at a Twins game a couple weeks ago  dflprincess   May-05-07 02:47 PM   #14 
  - On a DUer's sig line...  zidzi   May-05-07 07:17 PM   #51 
  - Go easy on the kid  gollygee   May-05-07 02:51 PM   #15 
  - You don't have to support the war to honor someone who  wienerdoggie   May-05-07 02:55 PM   #16 
  - Excuse me? I think we failed the soldiers. We're the ones in charge here...  originalpckelly   May-05-07 02:57 PM   #17 
  - Another point to keep in mind:  wienerdoggie   May-05-07 03:03 PM   #18 
  - Well said  DesertRat   May-06-07 10:00 AM   #94 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-05-07 03:43 PM   #19 
  - I understand your reluctance to applaud.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 04:01 PM   #20 
  - So what?  alarimer   May-05-07 04:07 PM   #26 
  - You call these people sheep?  yibbehobba   May-05-07 04:16 PM   #28 
  - WS comported himself well. He simply abstained.  Karenina   May-05-07 04:24 PM   #31 
  - No one suggested that the author of the OP hang a medal on the soldier.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 05:32 PM   #33 
  - So oppose the war but applaud the warriors. Why?  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 06:18 PM   #39 
     - Christ. You don't know any soldiers at all. Nevermind.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 07:04 PM   #47 
        - Wow you know what is in every soldiers heart and I don't  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 07:23 PM   #53 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-05-07 09:09 PM   #64 
              - Why applaud if you didn't know he DID deserve it? that is making judgements also.  uppityperson   May-06-07 01:14 AM   #78 
                 - Ask Mr. Stupidity if, after abstaining from the applause, if he spoke to the soldier.  Buzz Clik   May-06-07 08:43 AM   #90 
                    - Why don't you ask me yourself?  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 04:06 PM   #104 
                       - I did ask you  sanskritwarrior   May-06-07 04:10 PM   #106 
                       - Now you're making me ill.  Buzz Clik   May-06-07 07:50 PM   #112 
                          - Well no you aren't.  Warren Stupidity   May-07-07 06:24 AM   #114 
  - Don Quixote was a hero  TahitiNut   May-05-07 08:24 PM   #62 
     - An interesting take on the whole issue. Thanks for that. n/t  John Q. Citizen   May-06-07 01:47 AM   #79 
  - Yeah actually it was about me.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 04:22 PM   #29 
     - We all know we're being used, and these soldiers are not only used but abused.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 05:34 PM   #34 
     - We all know we're being used?  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 06:41 PM   #42 
        - That's a helluva reaction considering my initial response.  Buzz Clik   May-05-07 07:12 PM   #50 
           - "But it wasn't about you..."  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 07:26 PM   #54 
     - your so vain...  Jack_DeLeon   May-07-07 06:39 AM   #116 
  - Good for you  alarimer   May-05-07 04:04 PM   #23 
  - Agreed.  Oregonian   May-05-07 08:00 PM   #59 
  - Let's all give Warren Stupidity a round of applause!  yibbehobba   May-05-07 04:04 PM   #24 
  - I just can't do it.  Lurking Dem   May-05-07 04:09 PM   #27 
  - .  bigtree   May-05-07 06:03 PM   #37 
  - For what?  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 04:24 PM   #30 
     - I was being silly! n/t  yibbehobba   May-05-07 04:26 PM   #32 
  - Well You're Entitled, But I'm Thankful Everyone Else Cheered And You Didn't Shout Out Your Comment.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-05-07 06:06 PM   #38 
  - Why?  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 06:19 PM   #40 
     - Because I Think It Was The Last Place For Protest And That We All Should Cheer His Safe Return.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-05-07 06:21 PM   #41 
        - What is the right place for protest?  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 07:28 PM   #55 
        - Now You're Just Trying To Be Silly.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-05-07 07:57 PM   #58 
        - Saying "Bring them all home" is considered offensive to returning soldiers?  Lex   May-05-07 11:53 PM   #73 
        - Not On Its Face, No.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-06-07 12:05 AM   #74 
           - I guess I don't consider "bring them all home" making one into a "protester"  Lex   May-06-07 12:28 AM   #75 
              - I'm A Bit Weirded Out By It As Well. But I Just Don't Feel The Need To Disrupt It Either.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-06-07 12:53 AM   #76 
        - So what is the right place for protest?  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 06:12 AM   #84 
           - Simple. Any Place The Sentiment Of The Protest Outweighs The Sentiment Of What's Being Protested.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-06-07 09:24 AM   #93 
        - Very good point  siligut   May-06-07 03:23 PM   #100 
        - I agree  spoony   May-06-07 08:48 AM   #91 
  - Paralyzed is about right.  Orsino   May-05-07 06:44 PM   #44 
  - Thanks, Orsino!  Karenina   May-05-07 07:36 PM   #56 
  - I should have requested that all of his comrades also return  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 07:44 PM   #57 
     - Yeah. That would be a true welcome...  Orsino   May-06-07 05:30 AM   #82 
  - I can understand that...  stillcool47   May-05-07 07:18 PM   #52 
  - Thank you for your honesty, Warren Stupidity  Pastiche423   May-05-07 08:10 PM   #60 
  - Exactly like the spitting in Vietnam started...  TnDem   May-05-07 08:19 PM   #61 
  - Except it didn't - the spit upon vietnam vet story has been debunked. nt  glitch   May-05-07 11:05 PM   #67 
  - There are still people who claim to be vets and to have been spit on, but the vet  DemBones DemBones   May-05-07 11:40 PM   #72 
  - Your story is bullshit.  Vickers   May-06-07 02:19 AM   #80 
  - time if this happens to anyone else and you feel  flyarm   May-05-07 08:57 PM   #63 
  - Nah.  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 06:09 AM   #83 
  - At tonight's Twins game  dflprincess   May-05-07 11:25 PM   #70 
  - Which is why I decided to write about this.  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 06:23 AM   #85 
  - I understand what you are saying and your conflicted feelings.  Lex   May-05-07 11:29 PM   #71 
  - Agreed. The soldiers are not high school football players "winning one for the Gipper"  Buzz Clik   May-06-07 08:39 AM   #89 
  - Because you have such disregard for the soldiers, here's a suggestion:  Buzz Clik   May-06-07 08:36 AM   #88 
  - Self-deleted.  Lex   May-06-07 12:26 PM   #97 
  - I suggest you take a deep breath.  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 04:12 PM   #107 
  - Applauding was a way to welcome the soldier home.  merh   May-06-07 08:55 AM   #92 
  - "mindless nationilistic militarism" What bullshit!  fishnfla   May-06-07 10:25 AM   #95 
  - I hate being put in any situation where I'm  LibDemAlways   May-06-07 10:39 AM   #96 
  - Here you go -- 14 dead today. Your chance to show how much you really don't care.  Buzz Clik   May-06-07 02:07 PM   #98 
  - How exactly does warrior worship help that?  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 04:10 PM   #105 
     - This is your big chance.  Buzz Clik   May-06-07 07:10 PM   #111 
        - Now I'm Fred Phelps?  Warren Stupidity   May-07-07 06:20 AM   #113 
  - I read this thread early this morning and have been thinking about  sfexpat2000   May-06-07 02:16 PM   #99 
  - I think that is a good point and well worth considering.  Warren Stupidity   May-06-07 04:53 PM   #109 
     - This is the thing: BushCo put our people in harms way to line their pockets  sfexpat2000   May-06-07 05:25 PM   #110 
  - I couldn't have either  Solly Mack   May-06-07 03:25 PM   #101 
  - Definitely blatant repuke attempts at forcing you to approve  treestar   May-06-07 03:30 PM   #102 
  - Thank You for sharing  DianaForRussFeingold   May-06-07 03:59 PM   #103 
  - Good On You!  stirlingsliver   May-06-07 04:18 PM   #108 

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