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Mon May-03-10 02:07 AM
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| 14. in a FREE country, you counter bad speech with good speech |
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in the UK, you arrest the bad speech
i know which i prefer
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| -another example of UK style "free" speech |
paulsby |
May-03-10 01:39 AM |
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An Unpersecuted Christian, Sir, Is An Affront To The Lord |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 01:48 AM |
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in a FREE country, you counter bad speech with good speech |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:07 AM |
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People Going About Their Daily Lives, Sir, Ought Not Be Required to Submit To Public Abuse |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:13 AM |
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that;'s the price of living in a free society |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:21 AM |
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Nonesense, Sir: Not Insulting And Abusing Others Is The Price Of Living In Any Society |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:33 AM |
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again, you misstate |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:39 AM |
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An Idea Can Be, Sir, And In Fact Often Is, An attack On A Person Or Group Of Persons |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:45 AM |
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So insults are a crime there? Jeebus, most of DU would be in trouble there |
The Straight Story |
May-03-10 04:42 AM |
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No, it is not a fairly basic element of a free society |
woo me with science |
May-03-10 11:51 PM |
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It Is Certainly An Element Of Any Society's Civil Peace, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
May-04-10 01:36 AM |
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I find your opinions here |
woo me with science |
May-04-10 06:26 AM |
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They Would Not Be Considered So, Ma'am, Under the Law Being Discussed |
The Magistrate |
May-04-10 06:49 AM |
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Wrong, we are talking about defaming people, a whole |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 03:44 AM |
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Agh! |
woo me with science |
May-04-10 12:05 AM |
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Aren't pro-choice people supporting the violent killing of unborn children? |
hack89 |
May-04-10 09:35 AM |
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Yes. They have different laws over there. I'm trying to work up some outrage... |
Flaneur |
May-03-10 01:49 AM |
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yes, it;'s called no freedom of speech where according to the law |
paulsby |
May-03-10 01:56 AM |
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Other countries will take your concern under advisement. |
ZeitgeistObserver |
May-03-10 01:59 AM |
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nor does the US take the concern of a bunch of people in DU |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:01 AM |
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Well it's a chatsite, |
ZeitgeistObserver |
May-03-10 02:03 AM |
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i agree although there are many here that are convinced otherwise |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:06 AM |
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And my British husband is horrified by the hatred from groups like Westboro |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-03-10 02:00 AM |
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great |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:03 AM |
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And Yet, Sir, Englishmen And Women Consider Themselves To Be Free, By And Large |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:08 AM |
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Yep. I'll have to inform my husband he's not truly free. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-03-10 02:09 AM |
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that;s how the slippery slope works |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:28 AM |
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With due respect |
NeedleCast |
May-03-10 07:14 AM |
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And You Know This How, Sir? |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 07:19 AM |
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Interesting that you, who defend the shooting of |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 04:37 AM |
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I didn't spot big ol' freedom guy here all over the Arizona "papers please" threads, did you? |
Zix |
May-03-10 05:01 AM |
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Odd isn't it? What he is 'disgusted' by |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 05:26 AM |
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Where's your outrage for Saudi Arabia? |
Lyric |
May-03-10 09:46 AM |
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Yeah, they don't allow hate speech against the gay community there. The horror. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-03-10 01:51 AM |
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who is we? |
paulsby |
May-03-10 01:59 AM |
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You expect DU to be horribly upset that a bigoted asshole can't preach his hatespeech? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-03-10 02:02 AM |
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i don't expect many people |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:06 AM |
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So What, Sir, Is Your Definition Of 'Citizen'? |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:14 AM |
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a citizen does not cede the power to govt. |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:23 AM |
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A Rather Crabbed And Specialized Formula, Sir.... |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:38 AM |
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not at all |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:42 AM |
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What Difference Between Sticks And Stones, Sir? |
The Magistrate |
May-03-10 02:53 AM |
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No, you don't respect those Canadians et al (try most of the |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 05:55 AM |
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Paulsby... |
Zix |
May-03-10 02:11 AM |
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i am one of the few here (sadly) that still respects true freedom |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:24 AM |
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Your god is responsible for your constitution? |
mr blur |
May-03-10 02:38 AM |
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actually, i was being poetic |
paulsby |
May-03-10 02:40 AM |
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Careful blur. The UK Gestapo will be in to drag you away soon. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-03-10 02:43 AM |
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i wouldn't make the godwin reference |
paulsby |
May-03-10 10:58 AM |
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You've chosen a pretty telling example to illustrate your point. |
Zix |
May-03-10 03:05 AM |
#33 |
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adults having discussions aren't interested in "winning" |
paulsby |
May-03-10 11:00 AM |
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Yet, you have no problem with a citizen, who gets drunk and |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 05:36 AM |
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So far.... |
woo me with science |
May-03-10 11:23 PM |
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yet - the range of and quality of actual political debate is far, far greater in the UK |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-04-10 10:00 AM |
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And profanity is allowed on TV after 9 PM |
Turborama |
May-04-10 11:44 AM |
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He should be allowed to speak his opinion, however offensive and idiotic it may be. |
name not needed |
May-03-10 04:21 AM |
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Hope you remember your concept of "freedom" |
tularetom |
May-03-10 04:28 AM |
#36 |
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Many progressives have a strong authoritarian streak |
hack89 |
May-03-10 05:13 AM |
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That's because they're prejudices |
Zix |
May-03-10 06:20 AM |
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How silly of me |
hack89 |
May-03-10 07:06 AM |
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Dude... |
Zix |
May-03-10 07:33 AM |
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What we can discuss is whether it is wise to give government |
hack89 |
May-03-10 02:37 PM |
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Speech is an action. |
U4ikLefty |
May-03-10 10:03 PM |
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So advocating the murder of unborn children (abortion) could be a crime? |
hack89 |
May-04-10 05:27 AM |
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And when people say "fuck you" on DU... |
woo me with science |
May-04-10 06:42 AM |
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Nice theory. |
Zix |
May-04-10 01:42 AM |
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Do you agree that broad bushed stereotyping is part of the problem? nt |
hack89 |
May-04-10 05:29 AM |
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It's their country |
get the red out |
May-03-10 05:51 AM |
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And yet which country has a higher percentage of its citizens locked in cages? |
Fumesucker |
May-03-10 06:12 AM |
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Yep. |
Toucano |
May-03-10 11:24 PM |
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I am absolutely shocked by many of the responses in this thread |
Nye Bevan |
May-03-10 09:36 AM |
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thank you and fwiw i have made multiple references to being against the AZ law |
paulsby |
May-03-10 11:08 AM |
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Nye... |
Zix |
May-03-10 11:20 AM |
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Apparently you're the only one who does |
name not needed |
May-03-10 12:14 PM |
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You've been here since 2004 and you're shocked? |
Dr. Strange |
May-03-10 12:20 PM |
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Strange. |
Nye Bevan |
May-03-10 02:20 PM |
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No, it's a joke, started by Orrex. |
Dr. Strange |
May-03-10 02:33 PM |
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We LOVE it when it's conservatives getting shouted down |
Common Sense Party |
May-04-10 12:34 AM |
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The First Amendment is not at play here. |
Flaneur |
May-03-10 12:36 PM |
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Yeah, but the attitude is extremely disturbing. |
woo me with science |
May-04-10 12:15 AM |
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Do you not know that we already have speech |
sabrina 1 |
May-04-10 12:02 PM |
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+1 n/t |
X_Digger |
May-03-10 01:36 PM |
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I'm shocked that you're no considering the source...that maybe this |
joeybee12 |
May-03-10 02:22 PM |
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But a Nazi march is a-okay! |
MadBadger |
May-04-10 09:39 AM |
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We know, we know.....Brits and Canadians are the scum of the earth. |
marmar |
May-03-10 09:47 AM |
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strawman noted |
paulsby |
May-03-10 11:02 AM |
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+100...I wish I could double unrec this thread...and the first time another country tell the US what |
HipChick |
May-03-10 11:31 AM |
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Odd that of all the evil laws in the world this one riles you |
Bluenorthwest |
May-03-10 01:03 PM |
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What the hell is wrong with people.. |
X_Digger |
May-03-10 01:08 PM |
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Some people elevate feelings above everything. |
woo me with science |
May-04-10 12:22 AM |
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There was an pro-hunt rally here in the UK a few years ago. |
Zix |
May-04-10 01:30 AM |
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What if anti-war protestors are deemed by law enforcement to be "bizarre people" |
Nye Bevan |
May-04-10 11:02 AM |
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Meanwhile, bestiality is legal in Florida, unless it's with porcupines. But... |
Turborama |
May-03-10 01:11 PM |
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I saw earlier today |
melm00se |
May-03-10 02:52 PM |
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In Germany people were free to express their opinions , |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 05:49 PM |
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Is it OK to insult Goldman Sachs executives |
Nye Bevan |
May-03-10 07:45 PM |
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If someone threatens the lives of Goldman Sachs Executives |
sabrina 1 |
May-03-10 09:11 PM |
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A step in the right direction. |
Nye Bevan |
May-03-10 11:21 PM |
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I used the word 'insulting' as that was the word used so |
sabrina 1 |
May-04-10 12:07 AM |
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Let's break down what you said |
melm00se |
May-04-10 07:24 AM |
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Thank you for a thoughtful post and for taking the trouble |
sabrina 1 |
May-04-10 12:33 PM |
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This is a damned scary thread, |
woo me with science |
May-03-10 11:18 PM |
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You are one of the ones |
Codeine |
May-04-10 12:01 AM |
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You want Phelps? |
Zix |
May-04-10 01:25 AM |
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He's free to spout his shit, |
Codeine |
May-04-10 04:11 AM |
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lol |
Mekki |
May-04-10 04:16 AM |
#92 |
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