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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 03:47 PM
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6. Walking a tight-trope, not an anaemic posture.
"Every chance of succeeding? That is hardly the language of blood, sweat and tears. Can you imagine Winston Churchill saying we'll fight them on the beaches and then we'll have every chance of achieving a success over Nazi Germany?"

I think Wintour and Watt have got this wrong. B Liar is doing what Brown is doing: eschewing a bumptious triumphalism in favour of deterring complacency among the Labour voters. Personally, I think Brown overdoes it; he should show the braggadoccio he's entitled to, with his command of the economy and 'ring-fencing' of the funding of the bedrocks of the welfare state: employment, education, the NHS, and benefit supplements for the poorly-paid. Though he did emphasise it and repeat those, imo, invincibly winning assets.

I've been wrong in the past, but I think Labour will walk it. There might be a lot of posturing in front of the microphone, but inside the voting booth, I don't think people are daft enough to prefer 'a pig in a poke' to solemn, explicitly-expressed undertakings/guarantees. We'll see.

I think the Lib Dems may best be described as 'champagne Socialists', though I normally abhor the expression. But more 'champagne' than 'Socialist', generally, though Clegg, himself, has expressed some admirable ideas, including in the area of economic justice. However, as in the US, this is no time for watered-down Socialism. The party though seem like muppets, in the sense of a gallimaufrey of disparate, (yes, and desperate, too, with the finishing line in view) political desiderata. I mean, it's true to some extent of all parties, but strikingly so, the Lib-Dems, at least in the past, or so it seems to me. It was perhaps more true of the Liberals than of their alliance with Social Democrats.

I suppose, with virtually the full panoply of our perjurious media against them, a Labour government in coalition with the Lib-Dems, rather than a full majority, is possible, but if so, Labour could be forced to institute proportional representation (an not the watered-down version, they favour); and that would be a blessing almost beyond belief. Keeping them all honest.

As a Guardian writer pointed out, they don't have hung parliaments in Europe, just governments. It's normal. As power-people, the Tories and their Big Business pals are waxing hysterical at the thought of PR: they quite like the untrammeled corporatism that has brought us to this pretty pass.
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  -British Election Leaders' Debate: The Grand Betrayal autorank  Apr-30-10 07:15 PM   #0 
  - In part a load of Neo Con Labour spin.  TheBigotBasher   Apr-30-10 07:50 PM   #1 
  - Missed one: "Nick Clegg goes public on coalition – and looks to the Conservatives" Guardian  autorank   May-01-10 01:45 AM   #2 
     - Missed the point  ikri   May-01-10 05:38 AM   #4 
     - In his heart, I suspect Cameron is centre-right, but that's not too helpful,  Joe Chi Minh   May-01-10 03:59 PM   #7 
        - If Cameron was 10 years younger  ikri   May-01-10 04:27 PM   #9 
           - Heard the woman who leads the Greens the other day - just a sentence or two -  Joe Chi Minh   May-01-10 05:00 PM   #10 
              - There was a Tory on Question Time recently  ikri   May-01-10 05:14 PM   #11 
                 - Yes. PR would be an extraordinary blessing to the country, as the Tory culture,  Joe Chi Minh   May-01-10 05:55 PM   #12 
                 - Yes. PR would be an extraordinary blessing to the country, as the Tory culture,  Joe Chi Minh   May-01-10 05:59 PM   #13 
     - Walking a tight-trope, not an anaemic posture.  Joe Chi Minh   May-01-10 03:47 PM   #6 
  - Another Betrayal - Blair positions for a Con government  autorank   May-01-10 01:56 AM   #3 
     - That Guardian article makes no sense.  TheBigotBasher   May-01-10 07:17 AM   #5 
        - Never cross a woman. Howard's career went down the pan after Anne Widdicombe  Joe Chi Minh   May-01-10 04:08 PM   #8 
 

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