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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 07:31 AM
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Poll question: Do we want a national ID (citizenship) card or not?
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A national ID could be just an enhanced drivers license which requires proof of citizenship or legal residency which most states do already. We could just have 50 versions of a national ID if we require states to obtain and verify the same information or we could combine them into a single national ID. Either way you would functionally have a national ID/citizenship card system.

This would make it much easier for Arizona, other states that may follow its lead, and ICE to find and identify illegal immigrants. I suppose you would have to mandate that people be in possession of the ID subject to detention until it is produced with police having some latitude, as they do with most crimes, with respect to how strictly they enforce such a law.

Poll result (65 votes)
Yes. Unfortunately, distinguishing citizens and legal residents from illegal immigrants makes it necessary. (15 votes, 23%)Vote
No. A national ID/citizenship card is a step I am not willing to endorse. (48 votes, 74%)Vote
No. The Arizona-style use of drivers licenses, and other documents is OK, but not a national ID. (2 votes, 3%)Vote
Other. (0 votes, 0%)Vote

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  -Do we want a national ID (citizenship) card or not? pampango  Apr-27-10 07:31 AM   #0 
  - I have a driver's license I use for an ID - it is recognized anywhere in the US  stray cat   Apr-27-10 07:35 AM   #1 
  - No. Never. Hell No!  ixion   Apr-27-10 07:45 AM   #2 
  - NO!!! nt  old mark   Apr-27-10 07:46 AM   #3 
  - Oh, F*** NO!  timtom   Apr-27-10 07:56 AM   #4 
  - It would be better if we were tatooed with bar codes and given tracking implants.  Deep13   Apr-27-10 07:58 AM   #5 
  - So all of Europe today is run by fascists? n/t  Statistical   Apr-27-10 09:06 AM   #10 
     - Your segue gave me whiplash.  Deep13   Apr-27-10 09:11 AM   #11 
        - National ID cards have existed in Europe for decades.  Statistical   Apr-27-10 09:17 AM   #12 
  - Maybe They Should Put Chips In Us Like Dogs So The Government Can Track Our Every Move  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-27-10 08:01 AM   #6 
  - Without one, we will never have any chance at "legit" elections and  SoCalDem   Apr-27-10 08:09 AM   #7 
  - Most of us are used to having to present an ID in order to do "something". We're just not used to  pampango   Apr-27-10 09:39 AM   #20 
  - What's unfortunate about it?  izquierdista   Apr-27-10 08:31 AM   #8 
  - Every European country has had ID cards for decades.  Statistical   Apr-27-10 09:00 AM   #9 
  - Actually, we already have one if you need one...  hayu_lol   Apr-27-10 09:21 AM   #16 
     - What is the difference between a passport and national ID?  Statistical   Apr-27-10 09:24 AM   #18 
  - I can prove I was born.  rucky   Apr-27-10 09:19 AM   #13 
  - The OP's issue is cheap labor, not civil liberties.  Romulox   Apr-27-10 09:20 AM   #14 
  - Cheap Illegal labor has put downward pressure on American wages.  Statistical   Apr-27-10 09:22 AM   #17 
     - The OP has formulated an ideology whereby punishing the US middle class is penance  Romulox   Apr-27-10 09:26 AM   #19 
  - I thought the whole 'REAL ID' thing did just that? n/t  ProdigalJunkMail   Apr-27-10 09:21 AM   #15 
 

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