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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:52 AM
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37. You don't need to get personal..
Or maybe you do, but that's not terribly progressive, is it?
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  -The New York Times' Muslim problem Jefferson23  Apr-26-10 08:52 PM   #0 
  - My question is....  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 08:56 PM   #1 
     - Why does it have to be a "major world religion" before they get immunity from mockery?  Fumesucker   Apr-26-10 09:29 PM   #2 
     - It was pertinent to the topic. But defamation for its own sake is stupid in any case.  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 09:55 PM   #4 
        - Which came first, the chicken or the egg?  Fumesucker   Apr-26-10 10:11 PM   #7 
           - "An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind"  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 10:18 PM   #8 
              - Who benefits if we all tiptoe around in fear of upsetting religious fanatics?  Fumesucker   Apr-26-10 10:27 PM   #9 
                 - Who benefits by inciting an entire group just to get at a few?  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 10:32 PM   #10 
                    - If you can drive someone into the "terror camp" by making fun of a religious figure..  Fumesucker   Apr-26-10 10:38 PM   #12 
                       - It's easier than you think.  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 10:59 PM   #14 
                          - No, it's not so easy when you don't have a lot of irrational beliefs..  Fumesucker   Apr-26-10 11:31 PM   #17 
                             - Islam is not on trial here. Bigotry and defamation are.  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:00 AM   #19 
                                - So executing someone due to their religious beliefs is not bigotry?  Fumesucker   Apr-27-10 12:07 AM   #22 
                                   - Thats what extremists do. You are advocating defaming the rest.  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:18 AM   #26 
                                      - It's the Saudi government that's executing the man..  Fumesucker   Apr-27-10 12:23 AM   #30 
                                         - Muslims carry a wealth of diverse opinions.  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:25 AM   #32 
                                            - You don't need to get personal..  Fumesucker   Apr-27-10 12:52 AM   #37 
     - And this moral discretion should be used to make sure no one is threatened with death?  Jefferson23   Apr-26-10 09:51 PM   #3 
     - "Moral"??! Threatening people with death and you want to talk about free speech  riderinthestorm   Apr-26-10 10:07 PM   #5 
     - I never said it was moral to threaten someone's life. Not sure where you got that.  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 10:10 PM   #6 
        - You are equating moral discretion with "free speech"  riderinthestorm   Apr-26-10 10:34 PM   #11 
           - You couldn't be more wrong.  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 10:56 PM   #13 
              - Uhm, you said that critique was somehow a lack of "moral discretion" nt  riderinthestorm   Apr-26-10 11:16 PM   #15 
                 - Uhm, I certainly did not. Please don't mischaracterize my posts.  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 11:56 PM   #18 
                    - Exactly the point of the OP and exactly what we are debating.  riderinthestorm   Apr-27-10 12:02 AM   #21 
                       - That's your opinion. You should be more discerning about your intent.  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:19 AM   #27 
                          - Apparently you do need to get personal..  Fumesucker   Apr-27-10 12:57 AM   #38 
     - Well, actually we have gotten other major world religions that way  MadHound   Apr-26-10 11:27 PM   #16 
     - Free speech is great. Defamation and slur for their own sakes, is not.  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:01 AM   #20 
        - Drawing a picture of a man who died 1400 years ago is not a slur or defamation.  LeftyMom   Apr-27-10 12:17 AM   #25 
        - It is if the believers say it is, What's so hard about understanding that?  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:20 AM   #28 
        - No, it's not. Believers don't get to set behavior standards for non-believers.  LeftyMom   Apr-27-10 01:46 AM   #40 
        - another historical figure  Snazzy   Apr-27-10 12:25 AM   #31 
           - What Billy Graham has to do with the topic is anyone's guess  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:27 AM   #33 
              - No doubt you're anybody, let's have a guess?! (n/t)  Snazzy   Apr-27-10 12:29 AM   #34 
                 - Not sure I get your meaning here.  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:30 AM   #35 
                    - well I was hoping to be somewhat subtle  Snazzy   Apr-27-10 12:36 AM   #36 
        - Who gets to decide whether it is defamation and slur?  MadHound   Apr-27-10 07:34 AM   #42 
     - Failing to point out stupidity is immoral.  LeftyMom   Apr-27-10 12:08 AM   #23 
     - yea LeftyMom (nt)  Snazzy   Apr-27-10 12:10 AM   #24 
     - You're trying to put Islam on trial again. A non starter, and outside of the OP  KonaKane   Apr-27-10 12:21 AM   #29 
        - Defamation would involve falsehood deliberately intended to malign.  LeftyMom   Apr-27-10 01:39 AM   #39 
     - does invading and occupying one of their holiest cities fall under the category of...  Jeffersons Ghost   Apr-27-10 04:25 AM   #41 
 

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