KonaKane
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Tue Apr-27-10 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #30 |
| 32. Muslims carry a wealth of diverse opinions. |
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Your inability to see that, or incuriousness about them, is not their fault.
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| -The New York Times' Muslim problem |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-26-10 08:52 PM |
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My question is.... |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 08:56 PM |
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Why does it have to be a "major world religion" before they get immunity from mockery? |
Fumesucker |
Apr-26-10 09:29 PM |
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It was pertinent to the topic. But defamation for its own sake is stupid in any case. |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 09:55 PM |
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? |
Fumesucker |
Apr-26-10 10:11 PM |
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"An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind" |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 10:18 PM |
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Who benefits if we all tiptoe around in fear of upsetting religious fanatics? |
Fumesucker |
Apr-26-10 10:27 PM |
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Who benefits by inciting an entire group just to get at a few? |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 10:32 PM |
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If you can drive someone into the "terror camp" by making fun of a religious figure.. |
Fumesucker |
Apr-26-10 10:38 PM |
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It's easier than you think. |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 10:59 PM |
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No, it's not so easy when you don't have a lot of irrational beliefs.. |
Fumesucker |
Apr-26-10 11:31 PM |
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Islam is not on trial here. Bigotry and defamation are. |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:00 AM |
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So executing someone due to their religious beliefs is not bigotry? |
Fumesucker |
Apr-27-10 12:07 AM |
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Thats what extremists do. You are advocating defaming the rest. |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:18 AM |
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It's the Saudi government that's executing the man.. |
Fumesucker |
Apr-27-10 12:23 AM |
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Muslims carry a wealth of diverse opinions. |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:25 AM |
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You don't need to get personal.. |
Fumesucker |
Apr-27-10 12:52 AM |
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And this moral discretion should be used to make sure no one is threatened with death? |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-26-10 09:51 PM |
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"Moral"??! Threatening people with death and you want to talk about free speech |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-26-10 10:07 PM |
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I never said it was moral to threaten someone's life. Not sure where you got that. |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 10:10 PM |
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You are equating moral discretion with "free speech" |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-26-10 10:34 PM |
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You couldn't be more wrong. |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 10:56 PM |
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Uhm, you said that critique was somehow a lack of "moral discretion" nt |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-26-10 11:16 PM |
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Uhm, I certainly did not. Please don't mischaracterize my posts. |
KonaKane |
Apr-26-10 11:56 PM |
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Exactly the point of the OP and exactly what we are debating. |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-27-10 12:02 AM |
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That's your opinion. You should be more discerning about your intent. |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:19 AM |
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Apparently you do need to get personal.. |
Fumesucker |
Apr-27-10 12:57 AM |
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Well, actually we have gotten other major world religions that way |
MadHound |
Apr-26-10 11:27 PM |
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Free speech is great. Defamation and slur for their own sakes, is not. |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:01 AM |
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Drawing a picture of a man who died 1400 years ago is not a slur or defamation. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-27-10 12:17 AM |
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It is if the believers say it is, What's so hard about understanding that? |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:20 AM |
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No, it's not. Believers don't get to set behavior standards for non-believers. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-27-10 01:46 AM |
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another historical figure |
Snazzy |
Apr-27-10 12:25 AM |
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What Billy Graham has to do with the topic is anyone's guess |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:27 AM |
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No doubt you're anybody, let's have a guess?! (n/t) |
Snazzy |
Apr-27-10 12:29 AM |
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Not sure I get your meaning here. |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:30 AM |
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well I was hoping to be somewhat subtle |
Snazzy |
Apr-27-10 12:36 AM |
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Who gets to decide whether it is defamation and slur? |
MadHound |
Apr-27-10 07:34 AM |
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Failing to point out stupidity is immoral. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-27-10 12:08 AM |
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yea LeftyMom (nt) |
Snazzy |
Apr-27-10 12:10 AM |
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You're trying to put Islam on trial again. A non starter, and outside of the OP |
KonaKane |
Apr-27-10 12:21 AM |
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Defamation would involve falsehood deliberately intended to malign. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-27-10 01:39 AM |
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does invading and occupying one of their holiest cities fall under the category of... |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Apr-27-10 04:25 AM |
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