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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:24 AM
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49. Amen. What these folks don't realize is how little this would effect those responsible.
The only way we can punish them is to kick them out of office.
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  -Boycotting Arizona is stupid. Do something productive and help us take back saracat  Apr-25-10 02:21 AM   #0 
  - Thank you - I am getting so fed up with all of this. We did not vote for Brewer.  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:29 AM   #1 
  - And taking the most selfish view is going to help how?  aquart   Apr-25-10 02:35 AM   #9 
  - I didn't realize that asking for help to kick the racists out of office was selfish.  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:44 AM   #20 
  - WTF!  lonestarnot   Apr-25-10 03:29 AM   #54 
  - I'm supposed to sacrifice a home & eating....oh sure.  Desertrose   Apr-25-10 12:06 PM   #119 
     - Isn't that what this law will mean for many people?  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 01:46 PM   #131 
        - I'm an artist who depends on the tourists to buy my work.  Desertrose   Apr-25-10 01:51 PM   #132 
           - Precisely. This is about survival. I hope your business doesn't suffer.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:41 PM   #136 
           - Then you need to let your state know these things!  Codeine   Apr-25-10 05:50 PM   #139 
  - Very True  atreides1   Apr-25-10 07:18 AM   #103 
  - +1000  Desertrose   Apr-25-10 12:05 PM   #118 
  - They aren't mutually exclusive goals.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 02:31 AM   #2 
  - Are you willing to help turn Arizona blue, or are you only willing to make things worse for us?  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:32 AM   #4 
  - I typed it as clear as I could, jillan. They aren't mutually exclusive goals.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 02:33 AM   #5 
     - And I've typed it as c l e a r l y as I can. Are you willing to help us get rid of these racists?  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:34 AM   #8 
        - I would support a boycott which would be undertaken to oppose  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 02:35 AM   #10 
        - How about donating money to Democratic candidates in AZ?  Nikki Stone1   Apr-26-10 06:08 PM   #145 
        - I'm having some difficulty understanding how a boycott would help the right-wing. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-25-10 12:10 PM   #121 
  - And you don't think it would be more productive to help us take back the state?  saracat   Apr-25-10 02:35 AM   #11 
     - If I am suggesting that the two are not mutually exclusive, saracat,  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 02:36 AM   #13 
  - Just for the record - I rec'd this thread and someone came along and unrec'd it.  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:31 AM   #3 
  - Rec'ing to make up for the unrec ~  sabrina 1   Apr-25-10 02:42 AM   #17 
     - I do understand - it's just frustrating to be inside of this mess.  jillan   Apr-25-10 03:03 AM   #29 
        - Call their offices and tell them about your family and friends  sabrina 1   Apr-25-10 03:34 AM   #60 
  - We do need the help to elect Goddard  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 02:33 AM   #6 
  - They can't contribute to terry goddard because he is a Clean Elections candidate but they can  saracat   Apr-25-10 02:37 AM   #15 
  - Raising Arizona.  Webster Green   Apr-25-10 02:34 AM   #7 
  - When the AZ electorate acts responsibly, they have a shot at getting my dollars.  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-10 02:35 AM   #12 
  - The Mayor of Phoenix is trying to stop this bill. He is introducing a possible lawsuit on Tuesday.  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:38 AM   #16 
  - Sounds awesome. Let me know when the law is off the books.  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-10 03:06 AM   #32 
  - So you would prefer NOT to help us take the state back?  saracat   Apr-25-10 02:43 AM   #18 
     - I'm beginning to think it's a lost cause around here.  jillan   Apr-25-10 02:54 AM   #23 
     - Maybe I will see you tommorrow. I will keep an eye out.  saracat   Apr-25-10 02:59 AM   #24 
     - I refuse to have any participation whatsoever with a Jim Crow state.  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-10 03:05 AM   #31 
        - Sure you would if I think you are who I believe you are  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 06:03 AM   #94 
           - King's specific tool of success was the Montgomery boycott.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 06:06 AM   #95 
              - And the boycott of AZ is what FINALLY made them approve MLK Holiday  havocmom   Apr-25-10 11:38 AM   #108 
              - Agree whole-heartedly.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 11:40 AM   #109 
                 - Why thank you.  havocmom   Apr-25-10 11:45 AM   #112 
                    - Time very well spent either way.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 11:46 AM   #113 
              - True dat, BUT King's boycott was targeted at the bus company  KamaAina   Apr-25-10 12:27 PM   #123 
                 - Those boundaries pertain but the action succeeded, ending in a  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 12:29 PM   #125 
  - You better bet I'm keeping my brown butt and money out of AZ as long as it isn't safe for me.  Exultant Democracy   Apr-25-10 02:37 AM   #14 
  - Ok folks please quit unrec this thread It is really childish  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 02:43 AM   #19 
  - Thank you Sarge. I am hoping we can do something constructive about all this.  saracat   Apr-25-10 02:45 AM   #21 
  - Childish?... Nice condescension...  LooseWilly   Apr-25-10 02:59 AM   #25 
  - Nice show of support for fellow Dems. Bankrupt us. that is really progressive of you.  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:02 AM   #27 
  - Ahh, so now it's fellow Dems... not fellow progressives?  LooseWilly   Apr-25-10 03:24 AM   #48 
     - Who asked you to? Like Sarge, I have to get some rest. I have a protest to  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:40 AM   #66 
        - Who asked me to? Uhh, YOU, if I read the OP correctly.  LooseWilly   Apr-25-10 03:57 AM   #74 
  - thanks for proving my point  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:10 AM   #34 
  - Thank you for your condolences for my childishness.  LooseWilly   Apr-25-10 04:15 AM   #78 
  - Human rights activists in Honduras supported the embargo  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:16 AM   #40 
     - Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.  LooseWilly   Apr-25-10 03:50 AM   #73 
  - No.  Better Today   Apr-25-10 03:13 AM   #36 
  - Cool - self-proclaimed "true progressive" telling people which threads  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-10 03:35 AM   #62 
  - i haven't rec'd or unrec'd  barbtries   Apr-25-10 06:28 AM   #99 
  - by the way,  barbtries   Apr-25-10 06:29 AM   #100 
  - Boycotts can be effective tools in setting things to right.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 02:53 AM   #22 
  - Some times they are however  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:06 AM   #33 
     - Sarge, it didn't stop Dr. King from organizing and leading the  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 03:19 AM   #42 
  - If it makes you feel any better, I suspect the vast majority  kiva   Apr-25-10 03:00 AM   #26 
  - Thank you very much for the sanity and Goddard is a very decent man  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:05 AM   #30 
  - You're welcome.  kiva   Apr-25-10 03:13 AM   #37 
  - Amazes me Goddard is still alive. The Phoenix 500 and winger minions play rough  havocmom   Apr-25-10 11:41 AM   #110 
  - It's not necessary to physically be in AZ to participate in a boycott.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:14 AM   #38 
     - That's an effective way to pressure a state economy.  kiva   Apr-25-10 03:22 AM   #45 
     - Sure. I think this really is going to take off.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:30 AM   #55 
     - Agree. The law is cowardly and stinks of racism.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 03:31 AM   #56 
        - That's the odor of Republicans opening wallets.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:35 AM   #61 
           - LOL. Indeed.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 03:37 AM   #63 
     - Well, I would have been visiting Az since I just left there three  sabrina 1   Apr-25-10 03:59 AM   #75 
     - Yep. One can boycott AZ and AZ companies AND send $$ to DEM candidates  havocmom   Apr-25-10 11:42 AM   #111 
  - real boycotts are tricky to get going  Snazzy   Apr-25-10 03:03 AM   #28 
  - I have been tore on this issue  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:19 AM   #41 
     - Delete Dupe  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:24 AM   #46 
     - Delete Dupe  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:24 AM   #47 
     - Amen. What these folks don't realize is how little this would effect those responsible.  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:24 AM   #49 
     - I will take exception to being "these folks" Saracat  Snazzy   Apr-25-10 03:44 AM   #69 
     - If those boycotting are vocal to the AZ Chamber of Commerce, Hotel owners associations....  havocmom   Apr-25-10 11:48 AM   #114 
     - Amen saracat.  Desertrose   Apr-25-10 12:08 PM   #120 
     - This action that you called "stupid" is being called  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 05:46 PM   #138 
     - Wouldn't that be a form of boycott? n/t  Snazzy   Apr-25-10 03:47 AM   #72 
  - So you want us to not boycott, ie spend money in your state, AND  Better Today   Apr-25-10 03:12 AM   #35 
  - Look at what I said please  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:21 AM   #43 
     - I get it, I just disagree. I am 100% in favor of boycotting AZ, and  Better Today   Apr-25-10 03:29 AM   #52 
        - Federal invention absolutely necessary. Boycott will also get their attention. Money matters.  lonestarnot   Apr-25-10 03:40 AM   #65 
        - Good point, and practical and long-range, too. Hi lonestarnot.  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 03:42 AM   #68 
        - Who is big besides Petsmart and the D-Backs?  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 04:06 AM   #77 
           - Walfart.  lonestarnot   Apr-25-10 04:25 AM   #80 
              - LOL. Are they out of AZ?  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 04:29 AM   #82 
                 - LOL.  lonestarnot   Apr-25-10 04:39 AM   #84 
        - I had to reply to this  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:42 AM   #67 
           - Would you have told Martin Luther King to back off on the 1955 boycott  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 03:44 AM   #70 
           - Again you have to remember how that was done  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 05:59 AM   #93 
              - No one suggests suffering is a goal. There was very close to no one  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 06:20 AM   #98 
           - No one boycotted Katrina, the Bush admin simply failed. You are entirely  Better Today   Apr-25-10 03:47 AM   #71 
           - Consider this  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 05:44 AM   #91 
              - Entitled to how I spend my money as well.  Better Today   Apr-25-10 11:59 AM   #116 
           - Supporting the Latino community's call for a boycott is not reactionary  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 04:04 AM   #76 
              - How do you support the Latino Community when  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 05:51 AM   #92 
                 - You take too much for granted. That's a mistake.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 10:57 AM   #107 
  - Arizona Congress member Raul Grijalva called for a boycott  JI7   Apr-25-10 03:14 AM   #39 
  - Raul did that before she signed the bill hoping the threat would  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:22 AM   #44 
  - He hasn't changed his position as of Saturday when he spoke  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:27 AM   #51 
     - I can't rec your post, EFerrari, because the software doesn't allow it,  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 03:29 AM   #53 
     - Well, then I disagree with him. I would be surprised if any of our other delegation would support  saracat   Apr-25-10 03:32 AM   #58 
        - I'd like to see how Arizona Democrats handle themselves.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 03:37 AM   #64 
  - Yes he did and if you read my post correctly  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:25 AM   #50 
     - What makes you think that those affected "will hold out longer"?  LooseWilly   Apr-25-10 04:59 AM   #88 
  - I don't do AZ, so there's little chance that I could boycott. But I fully support...  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-25-10 03:32 AM   #57 
  - Well I got to get some sleep Going to the protest  SargeUNN   Apr-25-10 03:32 AM   #59 
  - Here's some lawyers who don't like the bill much at all:  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 04:16 AM   #79 
  - In 2006, the Latino pop of AZ was about 30%.  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 04:28 AM   #81 
     - It is an astonishing thing to watch a governor of a U.S. State sign  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 04:30 AM   #83 
        - Joegreenbolgna had already done that. Horseface stoked the embers.  lonestarnot   Apr-25-10 04:41 AM   #85 
           - I think the boycott will take hold and be sustained,  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 04:42 AM   #86 
  - For a long time, the point of boycotts is to insist on higher principles  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 04:53 AM   #87 
  - If they try to take away the greater good we resist.  lonestarnot   Apr-25-10 05:09 AM   #89 
     - Yes. Rosa Parks was not asking for anything more than her own  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 05:12 AM   #90 
  - i don't think it's stupid to boycott the state.  barbtries   Apr-25-10 06:13 AM   #96 
  - A fine piece from THE NATION's John Nichols on the Arizona mess:  saltpoint   Apr-25-10 06:14 AM   #97 
  - Sorry - AZ is out of my travel plans until they rescind this measure.  TheCowsCameHome   Apr-25-10 06:35 AM   #101 
  - It is neither 'stupid' nor un-productive  ixion   Apr-25-10 06:40 AM   #102 
  - Would You Have Traveled To Germany In 1933??  KharmaTrain   Apr-25-10 07:32 AM   #104 
  - I posted yesterday about my concerns re: boycotts and the poor  hlthe2b   Apr-25-10 08:03 AM   #105 
  - Pressure the BIG GUYS!  Karenina   Apr-25-10 12:14 PM   #122 
  - More Big Guys here (Walmart, Petsmart, Cox, more)  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 01:39 PM   #127 
  - The Latino community is calling for a boycott  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 01:40 PM   #128 
  - Your state's racist laws are for you to fix.  Codeine   Apr-25-10 08:18 AM   #106 
  - I thought one thing that made Democrats better was....  KonaKane   Apr-26-10 07:02 PM   #156 
  - Petition each County Commissioner, Police Commissioner, Mayor...  mwooldri   Apr-25-10 11:58 AM   #115 
  - Sorry. We won't be going there. DH has a "funny accent" and I don't think we'll be welcome.  krabigirl   Apr-25-10 11:59 AM   #117 
  - What's With the Either/Or Thinking? Why Would You Give Up a Powerful Protest Tool?  PopSixSquish   Apr-25-10 12:28 PM   #124 
  - I haven't seen anything from him about how this law violates the rights  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 05:39 PM   #137 
  - Maybe you should start a nonprofit dedicated to getting rid of the "Jaime Cuervo" law  KamaAina   Apr-25-10 12:29 PM   #126 
  - There are a number of orgs already on this  EFerrari   Apr-25-10 01:42 PM   #129 
  - Amen.  Nikki Stone1   Apr-25-10 01:43 PM   #130 
  - I think both approaches can be useful  fishwax   Apr-25-10 01:52 PM   #133 
  - Arizona won't get a penny from me until this is fixed. I've been there  DevonRex   Apr-25-10 01:55 PM   #134 
  - Brewer rose to the governorship because Obama appointed Napolitano  IndianaGreen   Apr-25-10 02:43 PM   #135 
  - Thank you. I agree.  saracat   Apr-25-10 10:19 PM   #141 
  - I wouldn't step foot in the state if you paid me at this point.  Raineyb   Apr-25-10 05:55 PM   #140 
  - I'm sure they won't miss you  Nikki Stone1   Apr-26-10 05:56 PM   #144 
     - I bloody well won't miss them. And as I don't make it a habit to travel  Raineyb   Apr-26-10 06:38 PM   #146 
        - You know, you could always do something positive:  Nikki Stone1   Apr-26-10 06:42 PM   #147 
           - Has Goddard said anything about the human rights aspect of  EFerrari   Apr-26-10 06:53 PM   #150 
              - I haven't heard anything, but I've been at work.  Nikki Stone1   Apr-26-10 06:58 PM   #154 
  - If I lived in AZ I wouldn't be worried about the boycott.  Telly Savalas   Apr-25-10 10:44 PM   #142 
  - We had a run in once before about AZ  rufus dog   Apr-25-10 10:50 PM   #143 
  - Until the law is thrown out, we're boycotting Arizona. Think you have it tough now?  Major Hogwash   Apr-26-10 06:51 PM   #148 
  - Why don't you just support the Democrats there instead?  Nikki Stone1   Apr-26-10 06:53 PM   #149 
     - Yah - like those lawmakers just magically appeared from out of nowhere.  BlooInBloo   Apr-26-10 06:56 PM   #152 
        - Money always helps.  Nikki Stone1   Apr-26-10 06:57 PM   #153 
           - As some bright person noted, it has been like 20 years since the MLK bigot debacle there...  BlooInBloo   Apr-26-10 07:01 PM   #155 
  - Why not both?  defendandprotect   Apr-26-10 06:55 PM   #151 
  - I'm in the boycott AND support the Democratic candidates column. I understand that  bertman   Apr-26-10 08:37 PM   #157 
  - Were you against the SC/ Confederate Flag boycott?  ecstatic   Apr-26-10 11:42 PM   #158 
 

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