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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:06 AM
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45. By calling it Darwinism
anti-evolution proponents can claim no one else in the world ever came up with the idea of descent with modification.

It also allows them to dictate the terms of a debate. And if they can slander Darwin with all manner of lies (e.g. he's an atheist, he converted on his deathbed, he's a racist, his idea lead to Stalin and Pol Pot and Hitler) then QED "his" theory must be wrong.
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  -Do you believe in evolution? The dumbing down of America lynyrd_skynyrd  May-03-07 10:40 PM   #0 
  - I've always been baffled by brilliant engineers who examine data all day...  Flatulo   May-03-07 11:18 PM   #1 
  - I used to live in a town with one doctor. He was deeply involved  mycritters2   May-03-07 11:26 PM   #2 
  - A doctor who fails to believe in evolution can't accurately prescribe antibiotics...  Tesha   May-04-07 06:10 AM   #15 
     - That's what I figured.  mycritters2   May-04-07 11:29 AM   #64 
  - Maybe it's because their deep understanding of nature allows them to overcome philosophical BIAS  cryingshame   May-04-07 06:50 AM   #19 
  - Spare us the New Age BS.  Odin2005   May-04-07 08:46 AM   #38 
  - Are you being satirical?  mr blur   May-04-07 12:49 PM   #68 
  - Materialism and reductionism are hard on people...  firefox_fan   May-04-07 09:59 AM   #60 
  - Engineering is not Evolutionary Biology, it's not even a life science,  ToeBot   May-04-07 11:55 AM   #65 
  - Snake oil salesmen have always done well.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 11:27 PM   #3 
  - To believe in something for which there is no  MN ChimpH8R   May-03-07 11:37 PM   #4 
  - Your first paragraph is not only memorable, but quotable.  Flatulo   May-03-07 11:50 PM   #6 
  - what is the responsibility of a human being again?  hfojvt   May-03-07 11:58 PM   #8 
  - i'm trying to reconcile how 'empathy' would be replaced by Boyle's Gas Law  NuttyFluffers   May-04-07 05:58 AM   #14 
  - The mechanics of reality may not obviate a world view but they ALWAYS exist within in one.  cryingshame   May-04-07 06:58 AM   #21 
  - yay! someone who 'gets it'.  NuttyFluffers   May-04-07 07:03 AM   #22 
  - Those two things aren't mutually exclusive  Goblinmonger   May-04-07 07:50 AM   #29 
  - correct, as someone adequately noted, having apples define oranges tends to be bad  NuttyFluffers   May-04-07 11:45 PM   #85 
  - And the weird thing is, a lot of DUers argue the Rationalist point irrationally!  cryingshame   May-04-07 08:27 AM   #34 
  - I am well read on Metaphysics and find Idealism and Dualism to be ridiculous.  Odin2005   May-04-07 08:49 AM   #40 
     - that's nice dear!  NuttyFluffers   May-04-07 11:46 PM   #86 
  - You need not have or lose faith in empathy  MN ChimpH8R   May-04-07 05:47 PM   #81 
     - well it's a bit more than that, but yes, good comment!  NuttyFluffers   May-05-07 12:13 AM   #88 
  - No religion here  MN ChimpH8R   May-04-07 05:43 PM   #80 
  - And even when science seems to lose...  Tesha   May-04-07 06:13 AM   #16 
  - And who is more dogmatic than the Materialists? And "Science" is now beholden to Industry  cryingshame   May-04-07 06:55 AM   #20 
  - I find it interesting  Goblinmonger   May-04-07 07:47 AM   #27 
  - Just a friendly reply, my world view embraces both Materialism & Idealism. While I argue  cryingshame   May-04-07 08:31 AM   #36 
     - I think more people should embrace both.  Goblinmonger   May-04-07 09:15 AM   #48 
  - No it is not.  Odin2005   May-04-07 08:51 AM   #41 
  - Don't agree that science "wins", because I don't acknowledge the battle.  regularguy   May-04-07 07:48 AM   #28 
  - Socrates is _____ .... a peanut butter and banana sandwich!!!  B3Nut   May-04-07 08:47 AM   #39 
  - All men are mortal, Socrates is a man, therefore Socrates is ______  DarkTirade   May-04-07 06:36 PM   #84 
  - Well put.  Naturyl   May-03-07 11:44 PM   #5 
  - so what are you saying?  hfojvt   May-03-07 11:56 PM   #7 
  - Agree with you., why is this necessary?  Jack Sprat   May-04-07 12:07 AM   #10 
  - The two goals are compatible, and reinforce each other  muriel_volestrangler   May-04-07 05:18 AM   #12 
  - but people always forget that these reactionaries also ignore 'faith'  NuttyFluffers   May-04-07 06:40 AM   #17 
     - Well written, very insightful and you should write a book. It's an important subject.  cryingshame   May-04-07 07:04 AM   #24 
  - Nothing to do with God  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-04-07 08:30 AM   #35 
     - nothing to do with God  hfojvt   May-04-07 12:40 PM   #67 
  - I believe that evolution produced humanity. I also believe in God.  Veganistan   May-03-07 11:59 PM   #9 
  - Nor should you be.  Jack Sprat   May-04-07 12:10 AM   #11 
  - Man invented God, not the other way around. n/t  maine_raptor   May-04-07 05:23 AM   #13 
  - Most Americans INCLUDING many DU'ers mistake Evolution for Darwinism  cryingshame   May-04-07 06:47 AM   #18 
  - What the fuck is Darwinism?  alarimer   May-04-07 08:09 AM   # 
  - By calling it Darwinism  genie_weenie   May-04-07 09:06 AM   #45 
  - What the fuck is Darwinism?  alarimer   May-04-07 08:09 AM   #30 
  - Your ignorance is showing.  Odin2005   May-04-07 08:56 AM   #42 
  - You're comparing apples and oranges  EstimatedProphet   May-04-07 07:04 AM   #23 
  - You hit the nail on the head.  Selatius   May-04-07 07:31 AM   #25 
  - There is a reason a scientist can NOT believe God guided evolution  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-04-07 08:37 AM   #37 
     - No, I disagree  EstimatedProphet   May-04-07 09:14 AM   #47 
     - God is the cause of lightning?  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-04-07 09:25 AM   #50 
        - No, I'm not  EstimatedProphet   May-04-07 09:37 AM   #56 
     - What about a sick and twisted God who would allow things such as the plague killing 1/3 of Europe as  skyblue   May-04-07 05:57 PM   #82 
  - This is a REGRESSION  Lydia Leftcoast   May-04-07 07:40 AM   #26 
  - The only shows that 51% of the population are idiots  alarimer   May-04-07 08:10 AM   #31 
  - The difference is macro and micro evolution....  TnDem   May-04-07 08:15 AM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-04-07 08:58 AM   #43 
  - That's not true  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-04-07 09:02 AM   #44 
  - It means nothing...because...  TnDem   May-04-07 09:27 AM   #52 
     - Do some reading  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-04-07 09:39 AM   #58 
  - Evidence for macroevolution is indirect but abundant  slackmaster   May-04-07 09:20 AM   #49 
  - If it's not direct, it's not science....  TnDem   May-04-07 09:32 AM   #54 
     - The theory of evolution is silent on the origin of the universe  slackmaster   May-04-07 10:10 AM   #61 
     - Thanks for telling that to scientists.  Bornaginhooligan   May-04-07 11:59 AM   #66 
  - polyploidy is instant (and observable) macroevolution....  mike_c   May-04-07 09:37 AM   #57 
  - Research "induced polyploidy" and get back to me  NickB79   May-04-07 03:42 PM   #78 
  - Of course evolution doesn't explain the source of matter and energy.  WildEyedLiberal   May-05-07 03:33 AM   #89 
  - To quote an undergrad anthropology prof of mine:  InvisibleTouch   May-04-07 08:18 AM   #33 
  - "Fish will be the last to discover water." (Einstein)  TahitiNut   May-04-07 09:07 AM   #46 
  - Even the pollsters do not understand what evolution is.  BurtWorm   May-04-07 09:26 AM   #51 
  - to me, saying "God guides evolution"  mikelgb   May-04-07 09:28 AM   #53 
  - Not buying evolution and saying God guided it are VERY different.  SmokingJacket   May-04-07 09:33 AM   #55 
  - Moved v guided  dave_p   May-04-07 01:57 PM   #72 
  - The fact that the question was even asked....  BluePatriot   May-04-07 09:57 AM   #59 
  - Best response in this thread!!!  CrispyQGirl   May-04-07 04:06 PM   #79 
  - My faith is 100% compatible with science  FloridaJudy   May-04-07 10:15 AM   #62 
  - Proof that  JitterbugPerfume   May-04-07 10:19 AM   #63 
  - Science is science... belief is belief and it is about time  JCMach1   May-04-07 12:50 PM   #69 
  - Don't confuse Faith with Knowledge and don't get worked up where they intersect  CreekDog   May-04-07 01:16 PM   #70 
  - Rejecting evolution is tantamount to rejecting the idea of a round Earth  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-04-07 01:42 PM   #71 
     - I haven't been lied to, there was no intent to deceive  CreekDog   May-04-07 02:45 PM   #74 
  - It's hard to understand  Johonny   May-04-07 02:37 PM   #73 
  - Ask them why they are denying it  CreekDog   May-04-07 03:07 PM   #75 
     - Similar to what you stated earlier, I believe in God and accept evolution  EstimatedProphet   May-04-07 03:26 PM   #76 
  - Sorry, but I don't accept results from cheap corporate media polls  depakid   May-04-07 03:32 PM   #77 
  - Just for a chuckle  FloridaJudy   May-04-07 06:31 PM   #83 
  - Another take on this (what about those beings from other planets?)  bambino   May-04-07 11:50 PM   #87 

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