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35. Why ruin a good fear tactic with the truth? nt
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  -Help me out here: Why would Iran having 1 or 2 nuke bombs be a reason to panic? karlrschneider  May-03-07 09:38 PM   #0 
  - don't try to bring facts and reality into it  Viva_La_Revolution   May-03-07 09:41 PM   #1 
  - That is my mission.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 09:42 PM   #3 
  - It has to do with fealty to the west  Lerkfish   May-03-07 09:41 PM   #2 
  - They don't have any bombs or any capacity to make any bombs.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-07 09:45 PM   #4 
  - Yes, it was hypothetical but it was somewhat practical as a general proposition.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:04 PM   #12 
  - Because Repukes & the MSM need for us to believe this and be verrrry afraid!  southerncrone   May-03-07 09:46 PM   #5 
  - It's not. Unless you're Israel.  BlooInBloo   May-03-07 09:47 PM   #6 
  - Why? Israel has a survivable nuclear deterrent.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-07 09:54 PM   #8 
     - I'm sure that's a great relief to the millions who'd already be dead.  BlooInBloo   May-03-07 10:04 PM   #13 
        - You don't understand MAD then.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-07 10:07 PM   #14 
        - Exactly. Evan an insane maniacal leader knows better than to destroy  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:11 PM   #18 
           - Then he's ipso facto not insane.  BlooInBloo   May-03-07 10:16 PM   #23 
              - No, Ahmidinijad isn't insane. He's a prick but not insane.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:21 PM   #27 
                 - Sigh. And it's on that very question that I wouldn't be excited about betting...  BlooInBloo   May-04-07 09:43 AM   #36 
                    - And what about the "countrymen" of the US who might have to die as a result of...  originalpckelly   May-05-07 08:50 AM   #44 
        - Are you saying Iran's government would risk their own near-certain  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:07 PM   #15 
           - I'm saying I wouldn't want to bet the lives of my countrymen that they *wouldn't*.  BlooInBloo   May-03-07 10:09 PM   #16 
              - Then you simply do not understand MAD.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-07 10:12 PM   # 
                 - lol! All disagreement must be my misunderstanding, eh? lol!  BlooInBloo   May-03-07 10:16 PM   #21 
                    - No just this particular one.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 07:57 AM   #37 
                       - The proposition of a conflict between two states armed with nukes would necessarily lead to death  Selatius   May-05-07 08:28 AM   #40 
                          - Well that is exactly the point.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 08:31 AM   #41 
  - And how do they deliver them anyway?  dave_p   May-03-07 09:48 PM   #7 
  - Missiles of course, Iran has reasonable missiles.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-07 09:56 PM   #10 
     - There's missiles and there's missiles  dave_p   May-03-07 10:44 PM   #34 
        - I was being generous to the argument that they could strike  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 08:34 AM   #42 
  - Because it would then be impossible to repossess all of our NG and petroleum  loindelrio   May-03-07 09:54 PM   #9 
  - then we can't invade them anymore  kenny blankenship   May-03-07 09:56 PM   #11 
  - Yes, they're expected to bomb Israel with them. n/t  madeline_con   May-03-07 10:10 PM   #17 
  - "Expected"?? What does that mean?  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:16 PM   #22 
     - Just what it says.  madeline_con   May-03-07 10:25 PM   #30 
  - Nuke's are useless as weapons...great for status.  Forkboy   May-03-07 10:12 PM   #19 
  - Because OMG who SAYS they will STOP at 1 or 2!!!!!!!!!11  uppityperson   May-03-07 10:15 PM   #20 
  - Well, I bow to your obviously superior interlocutory skills.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:19 PM   #25 
     - Who needs facts and reality when you can impose fear.  uppityperson   May-03-07 10:23 PM   #29 
  - It's called "PROJECTING". We used 2 nukes on civilians, so we think others will.  Bonobo   May-03-07 10:18 PM   #24 
  - Maybe but in 1945 nobody else had any.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:22 PM   #28 
  - Couple reasons I can think of...  SayWhatYo   May-03-07 10:19 PM   #26 
  - There is already a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. The other  lectrobyte   May-03-07 10:31 PM   #31 
  - I also would like for nukes to be "un-invented" but it's a Pandora thing.  karlrschneider   May-03-07 10:34 PM   #32 
  - Given that we are moving in the opposite direction  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 03:46 PM   #53 
  - I have to agree. I do not see a nuclear armed Iran as a threat  Zodiak Ironfist   May-03-07 10:42 PM   #33 
  - Why ruin a good fear tactic with the truth? nt  Javaman   May-03-07 10:47 PM   #35 
  - Because they're evil, crazy, unfriendly ferigners.  greyhound1966   May-05-07 08:09 AM   #38 
  - What happens when Iran gets tactical nukes. Do you doubt Bush would use tactical nukes?  cryingshame   May-05-07 08:10 AM   #39 
  - It would force the use of diplomacy  bonito   May-05-07 08:46 AM   #43 
  - ALERT: LAUNCH DETECTED. I think a nuclear war is now more iminent than during the cold war.  conspirator   May-05-07 09:27 AM   #45 
  - Because only responsible countries are allowed to have them  SoCalDem   May-05-07 10:19 AM   #46 
  - A lot of it is based on the assumption that Iran is not a "rational" actor  rockymountaindem   May-05-07 10:35 AM   #47 
  - thanks, RMD  paulk   May-05-07 12:14 PM   #49 
     - Now hang on, I didn't go that far  rockymountaindem   May-05-07 12:46 PM   #50 
     - We can also look back in history to see how Iran (or Persia)  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 04:05 PM   #55 
     - Not entirely true  rockymountaindem   May-05-07 06:08 PM   #59 
        - I didn't say they were perfect.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 06:29 PM   #61 
     - ok  paulk   May-05-07 04:23 PM   #57 
     - Hmmm... well Israel is at least partially a theocracy as well.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 03:59 PM   #54 
        - Israel is not a theocracy, that's bullcrap.  JohnLocke   May-05-07 04:27 PM   #58 
           - Israel is generally considered a partial theocracy, as I stated.  Warren Stupidity   May-05-07 06:28 PM   #60 
  - it seems that those who insist that everyone is safer when everyone  bbgrunt   May-05-07 10:50 AM   #48 
  - hmmmmmm, what a point!  libodem   May-05-07 12:52 PM   #52 
  - "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-05-07 12:51 PM   #51 
  - The problem is not Iran having nukes. The problem is the US occupation of the middle east.  conspirator   May-05-07 04:14 PM   #56 
  - The US would have to treat them as allies, the way we do Pakistan.,  McCamy Taylor   May-05-07 08:24 PM   #62 

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