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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:43 AM
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31. Well, I've heard the likes of Al Franken, Randi Rhodes & countless DU'ers make the same mistake
Evolution is an empirical fact.

NeoDarwinism is an imperfect THEORY of evolution based on the outdated philosophy of Materialism.

And THAT is also a fact. Even though countless DU'ers are ignorant of the philosophical basis of their views. Some DU'ers claim their views regarding Evolution don't have a philosophical basis (which is impossible) and some are even dishonest and claim that they are not Materialists but Idealists.
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  -Evolution is a fact, not a theory oberliner  May-03-07 09:33 PM   #0 
  - Did you catch which ones raised their hands? N/T  BlueStateModerate   May-03-07 09:35 PM   #1 
  - Brownback, Huckabee, and Tancredo nt  oberliner   May-03-07 09:39 PM   #3 
     - Exactly the ones you would expect to raise their hands  slackmaster   May-04-07 10:13 AM   #44 
  - I believe in evolution, yet I think its still a theory  Lerkfish   May-03-07 09:36 PM   #2 
  - Can't it be a fact and a theory?  oberliner   May-03-07 09:40 PM   #4 
  - Precisely, oberliner..  opiate69   May-03-07 09:43 PM   #6 
  - String theory is an example of a another very popular theory. But it is not fact.  cassiepriam   May-03-07 09:46 PM   #12 
  - A theory can reasonably explain all observable data, and still be wrong.  Lerkfish   May-03-07 09:49 PM   #15 
     - Well, much like the apple in my previous post..  opiate69   May-03-07 09:52 PM   #18 
        - I agree it is considered a fact, as you say.  Lerkfish   May-03-07 10:00 PM   #23 
  - No not absolute fact. Scientists have found evidence disputing some of  cassiepriam   May-03-07 09:44 PM   #7 
  - For someone who claims to be a scientist, you seem to have no idea what "scientific theory" means.  opiate69   May-03-07 09:46 PM   #10 
  - Tsk tsk....A theory is a way to explain facts. And theories, even popular ones  cassiepriam   May-03-07 09:54 PM   #20 
     - Ok then.. is this statement a fact?  opiate69   May-03-07 10:05 PM   #25 
  - I'mm poo pooing what you just said.  madeline_con   May-03-07 09:47 PM   #13 
  - evolution is a fact. It is a demonstrable fact.  Warren Stupidity   May-03-07 09:51 PM   #16 
  - Darwin's theory was Natural Selection. Evolution is a fact.  johnaries   May-03-07 10:12 PM   #26 
  - Can you link to some of this "evidence"?  Finnfan   May-04-07 07:52 AM   #33 
  - There is proof that things have evolved, therefore evolution is a fact  gollygee   May-04-07 08:17 AM   #40 
  - Evolution is a theory in the same way "the Earth is round" is a theory.  Oregonian   May-04-07 10:10 AM   #43 
  - No, it can't be both. Facts are measurements that can in principle be verified by anyone  electron_blue   May-03-07 09:55 PM   #22 
  - Thank you from a fellow scientist.  cassiepriam   May-03-07 09:41 PM   #5 
  - Yes. It is fact, not holy writ  EstimatedProphet   May-03-07 09:44 PM   #8 
  - Darwin's Theory of Evolution is a theory  oberliner   May-03-07 09:46 PM   #11 
  - I'm with you lerk  Zodiak Ironfist   May-03-07 10:13 PM   #27 
  - Oh jeez.  BlooInBloo   May-03-07 09:45 PM   #9 
  - The fossil record is a fact ... evidence of a phenomenon. The mechanism is theoretical.  TahitiNut   May-03-07 09:48 PM   #14 
  - Wish there had been a follow up, "Do you believe in the theory of relativity?"  LibInTexas   May-03-07 09:51 PM   #17 
  - You gotta "love" the ignorance...  Naturyl   May-03-07 09:53 PM   #19 
  - That's a really good point that the media forgets to mention  EstimatedProphet   May-03-07 09:54 PM   #21 
  - God, you're right!  Error   May-03-07 10:02 PM   #24 
  - You are correct, but I think your presentation is a little confusing.  Skinner   May-03-07 10:19 PM   #28 
  - I would have spoken up had I been on that stage.  Idioteque   May-03-07 10:27 PM   #29 
  - Maybe it's mis-named  Wiregrass Willie   May-04-07 06:32 AM   #30 
  - Well, I've heard the likes of Al Franken, Randi Rhodes & countless DU'ers make the same mistake  cryingshame   May-04-07 06:43 AM   #31 
  - No, "that" is not "a fact"  muriel_volestrangler   May-04-07 07:49 AM   #32 
  - Why didn't dinosaurs evolve?  WinkyDink   May-04-07 07:56 AM   #34 
  - They did.  muriel_volestrangler   May-04-07 08:01 AM   #35 
     - Birds MIGHT be linked. Some dispute this:  WinkyDink   May-04-07 08:15 AM   #39 
        - But most, as your link says, think birds are descended from dinosaurs  muriel_volestrangler   May-04-07 09:46 AM   #41 
  - The next thing you're going to try and say  mmonk   May-04-07 08:02 AM   #36 
  - AMEN! Now, onto disproving the theory of gravity.  Philosoraptor   May-04-07 08:03 AM   #37 
  - Evolution IS a theory, the creationists just don't know the proper definition of "theory"  Odin2005   May-04-07 08:14 AM   #38 
  - Any scientist worth their snuff  frustrated_lefty   May-04-07 10:03 AM   #42 
 

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