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Thu May-03-07 09:43 PM
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| 6. Precisely, oberliner.. |
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The word theory has a number of distinct meanings in different fields of knowledge, depending on their methodologies and the context of discussion. In common usage, people often use the word theory to signify a conjecture, an opinion, or a speculation. In this usage, a theory is not necessarily based on facts; in other words, it is not required to be consistent with true descriptions of reality. True descriptions of reality are more reflectively understood as statements that would be true independently of what people think about them. In science, a theory is a mathematical description, a logical explanation, a verified hypothesis, or a proven model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation.
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| -Evolution is a fact, not a theory |
oberliner |
May-03-07 09:33 PM |
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Did you catch which ones raised their hands? N/T |
BlueStateModerate |
May-03-07 09:35 PM |
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Brownback, Huckabee, and Tancredo nt |
oberliner |
May-03-07 09:39 PM |
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Exactly the ones you would expect to raise their hands |
slackmaster |
May-04-07 10:13 AM |
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I believe in evolution, yet I think its still a theory |
Lerkfish |
May-03-07 09:36 PM |
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Can't it be a fact and a theory? |
oberliner |
May-03-07 09:40 PM |
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Precisely, oberliner.. |
opiate69 |
May-03-07 09:43 PM |
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String theory is an example of a another very popular theory. But it is not fact. |
cassiepriam |
May-03-07 09:46 PM |
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A theory can reasonably explain all observable data, and still be wrong. |
Lerkfish |
May-03-07 09:49 PM |
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Well, much like the apple in my previous post.. |
opiate69 |
May-03-07 09:52 PM |
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I agree it is considered a fact, as you say. |
Lerkfish |
May-03-07 10:00 PM |
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No not absolute fact. Scientists have found evidence disputing some of |
cassiepriam |
May-03-07 09:44 PM |
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For someone who claims to be a scientist, you seem to have no idea what "scientific theory" means. |
opiate69 |
May-03-07 09:46 PM |
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Tsk tsk....A theory is a way to explain facts. And theories, even popular ones |
cassiepriam |
May-03-07 09:54 PM |
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Ok then.. is this statement a fact? |
opiate69 |
May-03-07 10:05 PM |
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I'mm poo pooing what you just said. |
madeline_con |
May-03-07 09:47 PM |
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evolution is a fact. It is a demonstrable fact. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-03-07 09:51 PM |
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Darwin's theory was Natural Selection. Evolution is a fact. |
johnaries |
May-03-07 10:12 PM |
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Can you link to some of this "evidence"? |
Finnfan |
May-04-07 07:52 AM |
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There is proof that things have evolved, therefore evolution is a fact |
gollygee |
May-04-07 08:17 AM |
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Evolution is a theory in the same way "the Earth is round" is a theory. |
Oregonian |
May-04-07 10:10 AM |
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No, it can't be both. Facts are measurements that can in principle be verified by anyone |
electron_blue |
May-03-07 09:55 PM |
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Thank you from a fellow scientist. |
cassiepriam |
May-03-07 09:41 PM |
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Yes. It is fact, not holy writ |
EstimatedProphet |
May-03-07 09:44 PM |
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Darwin's Theory of Evolution is a theory |
oberliner |
May-03-07 09:46 PM |
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I'm with you lerk |
Zodiak Ironfist |
May-03-07 10:13 PM |
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Oh jeez. |
BlooInBloo |
May-03-07 09:45 PM |
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The fossil record is a fact ... evidence of a phenomenon. The mechanism is theoretical. |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 09:48 PM |
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Wish there had been a follow up, "Do you believe in the theory of relativity?" |
LibInTexas |
May-03-07 09:51 PM |
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You gotta "love" the ignorance... |
Naturyl |
May-03-07 09:53 PM |
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That's a really good point that the media forgets to mention |
EstimatedProphet |
May-03-07 09:54 PM |
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God, you're right! |
Error |
May-03-07 10:02 PM |
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You are correct, but I think your presentation is a little confusing. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 10:19 PM |
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I would have spoken up had I been on that stage. |
Idioteque |
May-03-07 10:27 PM |
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Maybe it's mis-named |
Wiregrass Willie |
May-04-07 06:32 AM |
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Well, I've heard the likes of Al Franken, Randi Rhodes & countless DU'ers make the same mistake |
cryingshame |
May-04-07 06:43 AM |
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No, "that" is not "a fact" |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-04-07 07:49 AM |
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Why didn't dinosaurs evolve? |
WinkyDink |
May-04-07 07:56 AM |
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They did. |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-04-07 08:01 AM |
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Birds MIGHT be linked. Some dispute this: |
WinkyDink |
May-04-07 08:15 AM |
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But most, as your link says, think birds are descended from dinosaurs |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-04-07 09:46 AM |
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The next thing you're going to try and say |
mmonk |
May-04-07 08:02 AM |
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AMEN! Now, onto disproving the theory of gravity. |
Philosoraptor |
May-04-07 08:03 AM |
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Evolution IS a theory, the creationists just don't know the proper definition of "theory" |
Odin2005 |
May-04-07 08:14 AM |
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Any scientist worth their snuff |
frustrated_lefty |
May-04-07 10:03 AM |
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