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NM_hemilover Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:59 AM
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10. The only really important thing about this case,


Is that we are alive to discuss the rapist, but the rapist is not.
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  -Man Who Killed 16-Year-Old Girl Executed The Straight Story  Apr-20-10 11:22 AM   #0 
  - yeah, Darryl...  greencharlie   Apr-20-10 11:25 AM   #1 
  - "violently allergic.. ...to the lethal injection drug"?  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 11:25 AM   #2 
  - What's absurd is that the swab the injection spot with antisceptic beforehand  Recursion   Apr-20-10 11:32 AM   #3 
  - I read an article here in Texas (trust me, we KNOW execution in this state) some time ago that said  av8rdave   Apr-20-10 11:36 AM   #4 
  - Exactly...  geardaddy   Apr-20-10 12:27 PM   #20 
  - i agree  paulsby   Apr-20-10 01:31 PM   #41 
     - You're Not Really In Law Enforcement, Are You? (n/t)  Paladin   Apr-20-10 08:22 PM   #90 
        - i am, but i am also really into sarcasm  paulsby   Apr-20-10 08:50 PM   #91 
  - How does that make the death penalty absurd? NT  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 11:43 AM   #5 
  - It may only seem absurd to those who oppose the death penalty to begin with.  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 12:07 PM   #14 
     - "Closure"? In irony quotes?  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 12:41 PM   #25 
        - If "closure" for family members and friends of the deceased depends upon another murder...  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 12:50 PM   #28 
           - But it's not a murder.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 01:07 PM   #29 
           - So it's not murder. Fine. It's killing.  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 01:12 PM   #32 
           - Agreed.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 01:20 PM   #35 
           - Death certificates of the executed list HOMICIDE as cause of death.  Maru Kitteh   Apr-21-10 10:36 PM   #119 
           - +1,000,000,000,000. n/t  muffin1   Apr-20-10 06:21 PM   #86 
           - There is no difference  MattBaggins   Apr-20-10 06:00 PM   #79 
           - In your mind perhaps.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 01:21 PM   #100 
           - Many innocent people have been put to death.  Arugula Latte   Apr-21-10 02:23 PM   #107 
           - Read some of the other posts  NM_hemilover   Apr-22-10 09:49 AM   #125 
           - you beg the question  paulsby   Apr-20-10 01:32 PM   #42 
              - True, technically and by statute it is not murder. How about "Cold Blooded Killing".  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 03:27 PM   #58 
                 - Torture?  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 03:32 PM   #60 
                    - In a purely comparative sense... were this something done without state sanction.  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 03:41 PM   #62 
                       - We have a lot of words that ultimately result in the same state...  LanternWaste   Apr-20-10 07:48 PM   #88 
                          - But the path to those states are quite different.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 01:36 PM   #101 
  - poor widdle wapist.  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 11:51 AM   #7 
  - I'm a huge believer in the justice system and the rights of the accused...  av8rdave   Apr-20-10 11:56 AM   #9 
  - I believe there are arguments to be made,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 12:06 PM   #12 
     - "we are alive ... rapist is not." Unless, of course, he wasn't the rapist.  ieoeja   Apr-20-10 01:48 PM   #47 
        - The "innocence project" , says that this trash,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 02:47 PM   #53 
        - trying to find  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 03:37 PM   #61 
           - There is no evidence easier to fake than DNA evidence.  ieoeja   Apr-20-10 04:09 PM   #69 
              - Good Lord,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 05:39 PM   #76 
                 - I knew a cop who bragged about how he framed a burglar he "KNEW" was guilty.  Hassin Bin Sober   Apr-21-10 12:23 PM   #94 
                    - I have no doubt you  NM_hemilover   Apr-22-10 09:10 AM   #120 
                       - Turn them into whom?  ieoeja   Apr-22-10 02:48 PM   #128 
  - Right, because every single person on death row is guilty. Mistakes are never made.  NYC_SKP   Apr-20-10 12:08 PM   #16 
  - +1  malaise   Apr-20-10 12:28 PM   #21 
  - Mistakes are always possible both ways, but you know that.  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 12:40 PM   #24 
  - And if we someday find he wasn't a rapist ... will you still be glad we killed him?  ieoeja   Apr-20-10 01:50 PM   #48 
  - OK, say we abolish the DP...  MicaelS   Apr-21-10 12:57 PM   #97 
     - I don't like that either, but better than parole.  NM_hemilover   Apr-22-10 09:32 AM   #122 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-20-10 01:14 PM   #33 
  - Says the guy who can't wait for our species to go extinct.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 01:24 PM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-20-10 01:29 PM   #39 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-20-10 01:28 PM   #38 
  - If you start executing rapists and child molesters,  NYC Liberal   Apr-20-10 01:54 PM   #49 
  - Watch reports of rapes plunge when girls won't  MattBaggins   Apr-20-10 06:07 PM   #83 
  - Yeah, that too. nt  NYC Liberal   Apr-20-10 07:42 PM   #87 
  - well I certainly don't want to  NM_hemilover   Apr-22-10 09:25 AM   #121 
     - "What motivation does parole give to stop raping?"  NYC Liberal   Apr-22-10 01:20 PM   #127 
  - Which makes you no better than them  MattBaggins   Apr-20-10 06:02 PM   #80 
     - yes it does,  NM_hemilover   Apr-22-10 09:39 AM   #123 
  - Sort of like being violently allergic to nuclear explosion  NeedleCast   Apr-20-10 12:07 PM   #13 
  - The air in Ohio just got a little cleaner.  proteus_lives   Apr-20-10 11:45 AM   #6 
  - Never go to Wisconsin. The lack of death penalty there must make it positively filthy.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 11:55 AM   #8 
     - The only really important thing about this case,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 11:59 AM   #10 
     - So you're going to follow my advice and leave your state, which has just become horrendous?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 12:04 PM   #11 
     - Arizona was FANTASTIC, just too damn hot though,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 12:20 PM   #17 
        - OK. Just stay away from those wishy-washy, latte-drinking, effete elitist criminal-loving states  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 12:26 PM   #19 
        - Your description Pinko, not mine. n/t  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 12:42 PM   #26 
        - What about somebody who date rapes?  arcadian   Apr-20-10 01:20 PM   #34 
           - Maybe he should be put to death  JustABozoOnThisBus   Apr-20-10 02:58 PM   #55 
           - I think you answered your own question in your question,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 04:03 PM   #66 
           - It's funny that you hate rapists yet  arcadian   Apr-20-10 04:13 PM   #70 
              - please elaborate,  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 04:20 PM   #72 
              - Qugamire from Family Guy  arcadian   Apr-21-10 12:07 PM   #92 
              - Rape is also often "joked"  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 04:36 PM   #73 
           - What if....  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 05:50 PM   #77 
     - An eye for an eye  RedstDem   Apr-20-10 01:42 PM   #46 
        - I never said I wanted "rapists raped",  NM_hemilover   Apr-20-10 04:19 PM   #71 
     - Go ahead.  proteus_lives   Apr-20-10 04:02 PM   #64 
        - Ain't doing either. But you know that already. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 04:05 PM   #67 
  - The death penalty demeans any society that uses it /nt  Bragi   Apr-20-10 12:08 PM   #15 
  - In what way?  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 12:44 PM   #27 
  - "while also allowing for the satisfaction of normal human emotions"  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 01:07 PM   #30 
  - Aha? Aha what? NT  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 01:08 PM   #31 
     - aha because you're referring to revenge, not justice  Skittles   Apr-20-10 06:16 PM   #84 
        - But revenge (i.e., restitution and/or retribution) are supposed to be a component of justice.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 12:51 PM   #96 
  - Retribution (aka revenge) is itself a demeaning sentiment  Bragi   Apr-20-10 01:31 PM   #40 
     - Do you feel the same about a wrongful death lawsuit?  Llewlladdwr   Apr-20-10 01:36 PM   #44 
        - Let me be clear on this...  Bragi   Apr-20-10 04:03 PM   #65 
           - So what restitution is it appropriate to ask...  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 12:58 PM   #98 
              - That's up for a jury to decide, but it has to be unanimous consent.  Selatius   Apr-21-10 01:58 PM   #104 
                 - Can you expand on this?  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 02:36 PM   #108 
  - Yeah, I'd feel much more like Noel Coward if that guy wasn't executed  Dreamer Tatum   Apr-20-10 01:34 PM   #43 
  - Glad you feel better, too bad it makes you less safe  safeinOhio   Apr-20-10 12:26 PM   #18 
  - The fix, man. Gotta. Have. The fix. *twitch*  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 12:31 PM   #22 
  - Hmmm, I did not say I felt better :) (nt)  The Straight Story   Apr-20-10 03:13 PM   #57 
  - But he said he was innocent! nt  Dreamer Tatum   Apr-20-10 12:34 PM   #23 
  - How does one know they are allergic? I have a feeling I am allergic  Shell Beau   Apr-20-10 01:24 PM   #36 
  - 16-Year-Old Girl Stubbornly Remains Dead n/t  Orsino   Apr-20-10 01:38 PM   #45 
  - Oh, well.  Ikonoklast   Apr-20-10 02:01 PM   #50 
  - On 31 January, or perhaps 1 February, 1988, Angel Vincent, age 16, disappeared;  struggle4progress   Apr-20-10 02:28 PM   #51 
  - I know it's only one story, but that account makes me really uncomfortable with this execution  petronius   Apr-21-10 12:22 PM   #93 
     - Dunno. I did the best I could with a quick online search. That's  struggle4progress   Apr-21-10 02:20 PM   #106 
        - Just to clarify, I wasn't complaining - just commenting that that one article  petronius   Apr-21-10 03:47 PM   #116 
  - So, was he allergic to it or not?? eom  yawnmaster   Apr-20-10 02:32 PM   #52 
  - How many IDIOTS here even know the number of people let off death row because of DNA.  KansasVoter   Apr-20-10 02:50 PM   #54 
  - I often wonder how many innocent lives were taken before DNA.  Shell Beau   Apr-20-10 03:28 PM   #59 
  - +1  ScreamingMeemie   Apr-20-10 04:06 PM   #68 
  - Thank you  muffin1   Apr-20-10 06:19 PM   #85 
  - Good riddance!  Odin2005   Apr-20-10 03:00 PM   #56 
  - Good.  MrSlayer   Apr-20-10 03:49 PM   #63 
  - I am steadfastly against the DP, and would love to see it abolished everywhere. HOWEVER, as with so  apocalypsehow   Apr-20-10 04:43 PM   #74 
  - I trust that I'm not included among those, is that so?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-20-10 06:03 PM   #82 
  - The problem with far too many of those against the DP...  MicaelS   Apr-21-10 12:59 PM   #99 
     - Old canard is old.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-21-10 01:55 PM   #103 
  - It's sad that he was executed  Dorian Gray   Apr-20-10 04:50 PM   #75 
  - I hope he suffered  Zipp   Apr-21-10 12:29 PM   #95 
     - Lethat injection executions are specifically designed NOT to cause suffering.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-21-10 02:02 PM   #105 
  - I used to be a death penalty supporter  Old Troop   Apr-20-10 05:57 PM   #78 
  - In IL 1/2 of the death row residents were INNOCENT  Doctor_J   Apr-21-10 02:53 PM   #110 
  - So the rapist has his punishment ended. Hope everyone is happy.  flvegan   Apr-20-10 06:03 PM   #81 
  - Good riddance.  Naturyl   Apr-20-10 07:55 PM   #89 
  - "serial rapist"  lukasahero   Apr-21-10 01:48 PM   #102 
  - I remember a recent case where a condemned man OD'd  Doctor_J   Apr-21-10 02:52 PM   #109 
  - Isn't a "lethal injection" supposed to induce a violent reaction ?  divvy   Apr-21-10 02:55 PM   #111 
  - The death penalty is no penalty at all  MajorChode   Apr-21-10 02:59 PM   #112 
  - What penance was this guy doing?  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 03:10 PM   #113 
  - In a religious context perhaps  MajorChode   Apr-21-10 03:34 PM   #114 
     - I've honestly never heard it used that way to decribe an imposed punishment.  Llewlladdwr   Apr-21-10 03:41 PM   #115 
        - That might be the most popular usage these days  MajorChode   Apr-21-10 03:50 PM   #117 
  - It give society a way out of a rapist existence,  NM_hemilover   Apr-22-10 09:45 AM   #124 
     - Society loses with the death penalty  MajorChode   Apr-22-10 12:29 PM   #126 
  - Please read other articles on this case. Mr. Durr' s supporters say he was not given a fair trial,  old mark   Apr-21-10 04:27 PM   #118 
  - That he's dead: I have no problem with. That The State kills its own citizens, big problem...  BlooInBloo   Apr-22-10 02:51 PM   #129 
 

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