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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:55 AM
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46. "many militia types are actual combat veterans." I would like to see the numbers on that. And
secondly, being a combat veteran is not the same as leading men into combat. And it appears to me that most of those militia types are rather old guys so if they have seen actual combat it was quite a while ago, meaning they are out of shape and out of practice, all of their little maneuvers in the woods not withstanding.

There will be no "large scale uprising" so any talk about street fighting is just talk.

Any McVeigh style attack will have a huge negative effect on militia organizing, just as it did in the 1990s.

The U.S. Military is too well trained to "fracture into smaller opposing units." It won't happen. Anyone who steps out of line will be face court martial, just like the birther dude.
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  -I find this jingoistic talk about how a bunch of militia types don't stand a chance howard112211  Apr-20-10 05:18 AM   #0 
  - As recent wars have shown, the U.S. does not do well in urban warfare.  elocs   Apr-20-10 06:06 AM   #1 
  - A very different situation than operating in Afghanistan or some other foreign country..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 06:19 AM   #5 
     - Yes, but the standard method of dealing with hit-and-run type attacks,  howard112211   Apr-20-10 06:22 AM   #6 
     - The "standard method" hasn't worked so well over there has it?  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 06:27 AM   #7 
     - My godson was in Afghanistan, the Korengal Valley where they are pulling out.  elocs   Apr-20-10 06:48 AM   #10 
        - You and I and your godson couldn't tell the Taliban from any other Afghan..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 07:04 AM   #14 
           - So, if the soldiers there cannot tell who or who is not Taliban,  elocs   Apr-20-10 08:48 AM   #29 
              - It doesn't get rid of the Taliban..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 09:52 AM   #36 
  - I've seen them.  YOY   Apr-20-10 06:10 AM   #2 
  - Bunch of fat guys running around the woods drinking beer and firing guns  Frank Cannon   Apr-20-10 06:18 AM   #4 
     - I'd guess the "real" ones are not seen on youtube.  howard112211   Apr-20-10 06:34 AM   #9 
     - So being fat means they can't shoot?  dmallind   Apr-20-10 06:54 AM   #12 
        - Oh, sure, they may go around blowing up schools and daycares and such  Frank Cannon   Apr-20-10 07:01 AM   #13 
        - And that is in essence what they are. Bunch of wussies scared of their own shadows.  YOY   Apr-20-10 07:14 AM   #16 
        - But secret and insurrection style activities are shown to work against modern forces  dmallind   Apr-20-10 07:15 AM   #17 
           - It's much more difficult to "blend back in" in a situation..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 07:48 AM   #22 
              - Oh sure - but Eric Rudolph managed for years too  dmallind   Apr-20-10 08:09 AM   #24 
              - But all Rudolph was doing was hiding at that time..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 08:42 AM   #28 
                 - Hardly a victory for intel however that a known bomber eluded capture for years  dmallind   Apr-20-10 08:51 AM   #30 
                    - So if you have 1000 of them you'll be finding about one per day..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 08:57 AM   #31 
                    - Not only that, but each one of their attacks is a force generator.  arcadian   Apr-20-10 11:20 AM   #48 
              - I disagree  arcadian   Apr-20-10 11:13 AM   #47 
                 - But there are military and law enforcement from all parts of the country..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 12:06 PM   #50 
        - No fat folks can set bombs, but can they run away fast enough  HillbillyBob   Apr-20-10 10:40 AM   #45 
  - Are there any published stats on the number of combat vets comprising militias?  DailyGrind51   Apr-20-10 06:13 AM   #3 
  - I'd guess that none of them appear in any official stats.  howard112211   Apr-20-10 06:33 AM   #8 
  - Possibly the first effective urban terrorist group has been the IRA  mikehiggins   Apr-20-10 06:49 AM   #11 
  - Keeping your mouth shut..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 07:10 AM   #15 
  - Blowing off steam  Dogmudgeon   Apr-20-10 07:21 AM   #18 
  - I think conservatism has gone too far down the rabbit hole to get back to sanity any time soon..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 07:40 AM   #20 
     - That's exactly my point  Dogmudgeon   Apr-20-10 04:40 PM   #51 
  - There is one major equalizing factor...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Apr-20-10 07:29 AM   #19 
  - These days our law enforcement is as heavily armed as many armies were in the past..  Fumesucker   Apr-20-10 07:44 AM   #21 
  - Jingoism is extreme patriotism and hatred against  lunatica   Apr-20-10 07:49 AM   #23 
  - Any civil unreast will mainly be in the form of pockets of guerrila insuregency.  Odin2005   Apr-20-10 08:17 AM   #25 
  - Nice try with the pejorative "jingoistic". Maybe you could use a Thesaurus or even  retread   Apr-20-10 08:25 AM   #26 
  - You're proving you don't know a thing about military engagements.  TexasObserver   Apr-20-10 08:38 AM   #27 
  - Right wing talking points? There are none in my OP,  howard112211   Apr-20-10 10:15 AM   #38 
  - What type of people would vote Todd Palin into office?  kentuck   Apr-20-10 08:58 AM   #32 
  - Military branches  BeFree   Apr-20-10 09:02 AM   #33 
  - couple of points:  cliffordu   Apr-20-10 09:12 AM   #34 
  - I disagree, but I am not going to put strategy tips in an internet forum for the crazies to use  stevenleser   Apr-20-10 09:59 AM   #37 
     - The crazies are prolly already aware of anything you can name.  cliffordu   Apr-20-10 06:10 PM   #52 
  - It's all dry farts in the wind  Dreamer Tatum   Apr-20-10 09:13 AM   #35 
  - Just shows that there can be "chest thumping" on both sides.  Jokerman   Apr-20-10 10:20 AM   #39 
  - Chest thumping, true, but it could be productive.  gulliver   Apr-20-10 10:33 AM   #41 
  - I'll wade into this...  Javaman   Apr-20-10 10:29 AM   #40 
  - Hey. Thanks for the long reply.  howard112211   Apr-20-10 10:33 AM   #42 
  - Hey, thanks for the short reply  dbt   Apr-20-10 10:36 AM   #44 
  - Thanks for rebutting the OP's ridiculous propaganda.  TexasObserver   Apr-20-10 10:34 AM   #43 
  - "many militia types are actual combat veterans." I would like to see the numbers on that. And  yellowcanine   Apr-20-10 10:55 AM   #46 
  - "you will be swiftly and efficiently fragged, tagged, and bagged."  cherokeeprogressive   Apr-20-10 11:50 AM   #49 
 

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