| 138. Because those kids.. |
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.. are going to pay your social security. And the tax credits is a pittance compared to the cost of raising them.
|
| -Why do people get a tax credits for having kids? |
Pryderi |
Apr-16-10 11:21 PM |
#0 |
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Because those of us who spawn are much better than you are. |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-16-10 11:26 PM |
#1 |
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LOL just pour some gasoline on the fire why don'tcha? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Apr-16-10 11:27 PM |
#4 |
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*Snarf* - I couldn't help it. I've spent the entire week at a govt. seminar. |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-16-10 11:40 PM |
#18 |
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That sounds worse than some of the teacher conferences I attended... |
cherokeeprogressive |
Apr-16-10 11:45 PM |
#22 |
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lmao... you breeder elitist! lol ;) n/t |
iamthebandfanman |
Apr-17-10 05:30 AM |
#70 |
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see.. i was going to go more we are fuckin selfish assholes depleting..... |
seabeyond |
Apr-17-10 10:21 AM |
#113 |
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I think he's looking for an answer to a legitimate question... |
lame54 |
Apr-17-10 07:08 PM |
#136 |
| -
Yep. |
theHandpuppet |
Apr-18-10 03:42 PM |
#173 |
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when you have children, you are pumping more money into the economy..... that is a simple |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-10 06:26 AM |
#189 |
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Cuz Dem's Share |
Synnical |
Apr-16-10 11:26 PM |
#2 |
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Because we live in a country that despises childless people and likes to punish them. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Apr-16-10 11:27 PM |
#3 |
| -
And endure the marriagew penalty? |
Gman2 |
Apr-16-10 11:29 PM |
#6 |
| -
You might want to fix your attempted Princess Bride mimic. |
HuckleB |
Apr-16-10 11:31 PM |
#12 |
| -
I am tha Dwed Pie-wut Wah-butts!! |
Iggo |
Apr-17-10 08:09 AM |
#89 |
| -
What marriage penalty? The made up one to keep people angry |
MattBaggins |
Apr-17-10 09:44 AM |
#104 |
| -
Actually, there was a marriage penalty |
Abq_Sarah |
Apr-17-10 02:09 PM |
#130 |
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And that marriage penalty (or bonus) depended on whether or not both spouses worked |
meow2u3 |
Apr-18-10 07:29 AM |
#161 |
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. |
HuckleB |
Apr-16-10 11:30 PM |
#8 |
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"...whatever expensive thing I decide to spend time on..." |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 04:26 AM |
#58 |
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you completely missed the point |
Skittles |
Apr-19-10 05:06 AM |
#186 |
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My only problem with your argument |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-17-10 05:55 AM |
#78 |
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If more Progressives had children and passed THEIR values |
MicaelS |
Apr-17-10 06:25 AM |
#82 |
| -
Yee Haw |
blueamy66 |
Apr-17-10 08:40 AM |
#95 |
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Married with two kids. |
MattBaggins |
Apr-17-10 09:44 AM |
#102 |
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Maybe its the same reason adults without children pay taxes for schools and other services. |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-16-10 11:28 PM |
#5 |
| -
That's my take. |
HuckleB |
Apr-16-10 11:34 PM |
#13 |
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i was a grandmother at 38. nt |
DesertFlower |
Apr-17-10 12:30 AM |
#40 |
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I don't have any little devils either, but I don't have any problems kicking in. |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Apr-17-10 08:23 AM |
#92 |
| -
Yep, I want well-fed and educated adults taking care of business when I'm no longer able... |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-17-10 10:42 AM |
#116 |
| -
Oh, Boo Boo! |
SCRUBDASHRUB |
Apr-17-10 11:26 PM |
#154 |
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I have two kids |
MattBaggins |
Apr-17-10 09:47 AM |
#106 |
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+ 1 nt |
hack89 |
Apr-17-10 11:02 AM |
#119 |
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. |
bobbolink |
Apr-17-10 09:02 PM |
#144 |
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If they don't get educated we have no job pool. |
deaniac21 |
Apr-19-10 01:35 PM |
#193 |
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Why cant we single people get a tax credit for having twins in the jacuzzi? |
Initech |
Apr-16-10 11:29 PM |
#7 |
| -
Long term survival of the species? |
bemildred |
Apr-16-10 11:30 PM |
#9 |
| -
overpopulation is going to kill us |
lame54 |
Apr-17-10 07:11 PM |
#137 |
| -
No kids would kill us too. |
bemildred |
Apr-17-10 09:57 PM |
#149 |
| -
tax credits or no tax credits - there will be births... |
lame54 |
Apr-18-10 01:42 AM |
#159 |
| -
Well Dang then, we don't need to worry about anything killing us. nt |
bemildred |
Apr-18-10 08:26 AM |
#162 |
| -
Don't worry about it...Natural Disasters and Endless Wars will keep the population well in check |
KoKo |
Apr-18-10 04:14 PM |
#178 |
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We tend to perpetuate (actually over-perpetuate) without any tax advantage. |
Statistical |
Apr-18-10 04:04 PM |
#177 |
| -
You're buying reiki massages for billionaires, and this is your worry? |
Chulanowa |
Apr-16-10 11:31 PM |
#10 |
| -
^_^ |
bobbolink |
Apr-17-10 09:03 PM |
#145 |
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You can claim all warm bodies, that you |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-16-10 11:31 PM |
#11 |
| -
Way to bring logic to the thread. |
HuckleB |
Apr-16-10 11:35 PM |
#14 |
| -
I rarely do that. I figure people can at least help themselves |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-16-10 11:55 PM |
#28 |
| -
If that were true I could claim my dog. |
undeterred |
Apr-17-10 01:15 PM |
#124 |
| -
LOL only people! |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-17-10 06:57 PM |
#134 |
| -
You said "warm bodies" so I thought maybe |
undeterred |
Apr-17-10 07:15 PM |
#139 |
| -
A farmer or a Rancher does why shouldn't you? |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-17-10 10:18 PM |
#152 |
| -
stock animals are NOT pets, they are revenue producing assets |
havocmom |
Apr-17-10 11:41 PM |
#155 |
| -
I am glad you said that. |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-19-10 10:03 PM |
#194 |
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So that I can get rich with those tax credits. |
Vickers |
Apr-16-10 11:36 PM |
#15 |
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+1 |
MrsMatt |
Apr-18-10 05:37 PM |
#181 |
| -
Because raising the next generation costs far more then any tax credit |
Tailormyst |
Apr-16-10 11:38 PM |
#16 |
| -
Because raising children pushes you 99% of the way towards wanting to murder non-parents... |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Apr-16-10 11:38 PM |
#17 |
| -
exactly. |
DesertFlower |
Apr-17-10 12:32 AM |
#41 |
| -
I'd rather help support other people's kids than their fucking churches! |
katandmoon |
Apr-16-10 11:41 PM |
#19 |
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You win the POST OF THE DAY AWARD! |
HuckleB |
Apr-16-10 11:42 PM |
#20 |
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Thanks! :) |
katandmoon |
Apr-17-10 12:46 AM |
#45 |
| -
The church tax exemption is a function of seperation of church/state |
yodoobo |
Apr-16-10 11:51 PM |
#27 |
| -
Please explain how allowing churches to have special privileges helps keep the divide in place. |
HuckleB |
Apr-17-10 12:17 AM |
#32 |
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There is no linkage between the 1st amendment and tax exempt status |
MajorChode |
Apr-17-10 01:12 AM |
#47 |
| -
you said it |
yodoobo |
Apr-17-10 02:00 AM |
#49 |
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Rewriting the constitution is a lot harder than changing the tax code |
MajorChode |
Apr-17-10 02:09 AM |
#50 |
| -
well i agree it won't change |
yodoobo |
Apr-17-10 02:14 AM |
#52 |
| -
In order to change the constitution you'd need an issue that crosses ideological lines |
MajorChode |
Apr-17-10 02:37 AM |
#55 |
| -
Indeed. |
HuckleB |
Apr-17-10 10:03 AM |
#112 |
| -
Because religious organizations are specifically listed in 501(c)(3) |
MajorChode |
Apr-17-10 01:55 PM |
#125 |
| -
What's that got to do with paying taxes for the services they receive? |
katandmoon |
Apr-17-10 12:46 AM |
#44 |
| -
nothing. |
yodoobo |
Apr-17-10 02:10 AM |
#51 |
| -
It's not working. |
Jamastiene |
Apr-17-10 03:44 AM |
#56 |
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can you tell the churches to stay out of the government then because they sure seem to |
ejpoeta |
Apr-17-10 05:43 AM |
#73 |
| -
Jefferson and Madison didn't think so |
hobbit709 |
Apr-17-10 09:45 AM |
#105 |
| -
Churches already have cabinet level posistions. |
MattBaggins |
Apr-17-10 09:50 AM |
#108 |
| -
Churches don't pay property tax... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-18-10 03:00 PM |
#171 |
| -
You can have anything you want |
yodoobo |
Apr-18-10 04:01 PM |
#176 |
| -
I don't even think... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Apr-18-10 04:28 PM |
#179 |
| -
+ 100 brazillion |
madmom |
Apr-17-10 10:00 AM |
#111 |
| -
This looks like a hit and run job. |
HuckleB |
Apr-16-10 11:44 PM |
#21 |
| -
+1 |
Toucano |
Apr-16-10 11:46 PM |
#23 |
| -
kids are expensive |
yodoobo |
Apr-16-10 11:46 PM |
#24 |
| -
We have a winner! |
MzShellG |
Apr-17-10 11:15 AM |
#120 |
| -
All tax credits need to go away. ALL OF THEM. |
Fading Captain |
Apr-16-10 11:47 PM |
#25 |
| -
Steve Forbes, is that you? n/t |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Apr-17-10 12:25 AM |
#36 |
| -
Why do all tax credits need to go away? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-17-10 02:00 PM |
#126 |
| -
Why should the government encourage or discourage behaviour |
Fading Captain |
Apr-18-10 11:01 AM |
#163 |
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I don't think very many people have kids for tax reasons, so I don't |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-18-10 01:46 PM |
#167 |
| -
Because having a child is the quickest way to drop below the poverty line... |
Ozymanithrax |
Apr-16-10 11:47 PM |
#26 |
| -
Because they're an enormous expense. |
LeftyMom |
Apr-16-10 11:58 PM |
#29 |
| -
Get 'em jobs, or ten! |
HuckleB |
Apr-17-10 12:12 AM |
#30 |
| -
I love the comment somebody made: |
LeftyMom |
Apr-17-10 12:14 AM |
#31 |
| -
If only I hadn't been so durned lazy! |
HuckleB |
Apr-17-10 12:17 AM |
#33 |
| -
They get tax credits for having |
drmeow |
Apr-17-10 12:23 AM |
#34 |
| -
Yep! You can claim the wife if she doesn't work. |
Naturalist111 |
Apr-17-10 12:26 AM |
#38 |
| -
Or the husband, you know. There are stay-at-home dads, and we qualify as dependents. |
Robb |
Apr-17-10 09:42 PM |
#147 |
| -
To encourage the poor and working class to provide fodder for the war |
Foo Fighter |
Apr-17-10 12:25 AM |
#35 |
| -
That's definitely the main reason. We are a resource. We are not born. We are grown nt |
conspirator |
Apr-17-10 09:09 AM |
#98 |
| -
Yep. |
Foo Fighter |
Apr-18-10 12:20 AM |
#157 |
| -
bill maher just asked that question. |
DesertFlower |
Apr-17-10 12:26 AM |
#37 |
| -
Incidentally, Bill Maher is an asshole. |
Orrex |
Apr-17-10 12:29 AM |
#39 |
| -
+1 |
havocmom |
Apr-17-10 11:44 PM |
#156 |
| -
some friends of mine are using |
DesertFlower |
Apr-17-10 12:35 AM |
#42 |
| -
Taxation: The People's Business |
Toucano |
Apr-17-10 12:44 AM |
#43 |
| -
Because they taste like chicken? |
Rincewind |
Apr-17-10 12:51 AM |
#46 |
| -
You might want to Google the term "long pig". n/t |
Fumesucker |
Apr-17-10 06:11 AM |
#79 |
| -
I'd like to see that changed some. Maybe a bigger exemption, |
brewens |
Apr-17-10 01:33 AM |
#48 |
| -
Another take on this which might get flamed |
exboyfil |
Apr-17-10 04:44 AM |
#59 |
| -
just so we're clear.... |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 04:48 AM |
#60 |
| -
Yes from a macro standpoint |
exboyfil |
Apr-17-10 04:57 AM |
#62 |
| -
I understand |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 05:04 AM |
#66 |
| -
An interesting paper on this point (encouraging fertility) |
exboyfil |
Apr-17-10 05:19 AM |
#68 |
| -
Can't wait to read it! |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 05:28 AM |
#69 |
| -
You are really taking this personally |
exboyfil |
Apr-17-10 05:43 AM |
#72 |
| -
And you are really taking this intellectually |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 05:49 AM |
#74 |
| -
I like your idea |
theHandpuppet |
Apr-18-10 03:50 PM |
#174 |
| -
I would imagine it's because the majority of voters are parents |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-17-10 02:27 AM |
#53 |
| -
because we were all kids at one time |
JI7 |
Apr-17-10 02:28 AM |
#54 |
| -
maybe because they have more mouths to feed? |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 04:18 AM |
#57 |
| -
And everyone else should pay for their choice. |
theHandpuppet |
Apr-18-10 03:51 PM |
#175 |
| -
No. |
southlandshari |
Apr-18-10 10:46 PM |
#183 |
| -
kids have (mostly) a working life ahead of them, and therefore will pay taxes |
miscsoc |
Apr-17-10 04:51 AM |
#61 |
| -
Population decline |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 04:59 AM |
#63 |
| -
If all people are fungible |
exboyfil |
Apr-17-10 05:00 AM |
#64 |
| -
Ok...nevermind |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 05:06 AM |
#67 |
| -
immigrants take time to assimilate, people aren't fungible in a straightforward sense |
miscsoc |
Apr-17-10 05:52 AM |
#75 |
| -
Because those kids are going to pay YOUR social security /nt |
jberryhill |
Apr-17-10 05:03 AM |
#65 |
| -
Cause, if they can't figure out how to use birth control, |
Pharlo |
Apr-17-10 05:32 AM |
#71 |
| -
I saw a GREAT sigline recently... |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 05:52 AM |
#77 |
| -
Good question. When you consider they use and consume more |
Vinca |
Apr-17-10 05:52 AM |
#76 |
| -
Yup I don't get it. |
dkf |
Apr-17-10 06:15 AM |
#80 |
| -
Interesting |
southlandshari |
Apr-17-10 06:21 AM |
#81 |
| -
Because it takes more out of your core income to raise 'em. |
rucky |
Apr-17-10 06:42 AM |
#83 |
| -
It's a choice |
GinaMaria |
Apr-17-10 10:34 AM |
#114 |
| -
It's about as much of a choice as where you work. |
rucky |
Apr-17-10 11:25 AM |
#121 |
| -
BS. Your statement would have been true years ago |
GinaMaria |
Apr-18-10 01:35 PM |
#166 |
| -
C'mon, those are extremes. The people with the greatest need for family planning |
rucky |
Apr-18-10 01:58 PM |
#169 |
| -
Why do people who *don't pay any taxes* get tax credits for having kids? |
zinnisking |
Apr-17-10 06:51 AM |
#84 |
| -
Talk about every single |
pipoman |
Apr-17-10 07:32 AM |
#85 |
| -
I've known at least 2 welfare families just like that |
Mimosa |
Apr-17-10 10:37 AM |
#115 |
| -
It's a vicious cycle, and encourages sloths to create more welfare kids. |
zinnisking |
Apr-17-10 10:01 PM |
#151 |
| -
Oh good.... |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-19-10 06:41 AM |
#190 |
| -
The ignorance about welfare currently in this country is astounding. |
ipaint |
Apr-18-10 07:35 PM |
#182 |
| -
Career welfare recipients don't know how much it costs to raise a child because everything is free. |
zinnisking |
Apr-19-10 02:46 AM |
#184 |
| -
Welfare reform |
ipaint |
Apr-19-10 01:19 PM |
#192 |
| -
Every person |
pipoman |
Apr-17-10 07:34 AM |
#86 |
| -
there is a Child Tax Credit in addition to the deduction |
fishwax |
Apr-17-10 09:27 AM |
#100 |
| -
Oh yea, you are right...I stand corrected |
pipoman |
Apr-17-10 01:06 PM |
#122 |
| -
Why does the tax credit end once the kid turns 17? Why does social security stop |
Riley18 |
Apr-17-10 07:56 AM |
#87 |
| -
It is fair because the income of the family is distributed to all. n/t |
TexasProgresive |
Apr-17-10 08:03 AM |
#88 |
| -
Then the TV family of 19+ probably gets the government to pay for them. |
Historic NY |
Apr-17-10 08:17 AM |
#90 |
| -
To help ease the costs of raising them. |
Klukie |
Apr-17-10 08:22 AM |
#91 |
| -
Because TPTB need more consumers in the future |
TransitJohn |
Apr-17-10 08:25 AM |
#93 |
| -
Because |
edhopper |
Apr-17-10 08:26 AM |
#94 |
| -
I have no issues with tax credits for children |
tabbycat31 |
Apr-17-10 08:43 AM |
#96 |
| -
Because taxation should not deprive people of the necessities of life. |
Dr Morbius |
Apr-17-10 09:00 AM |
#97 |
| -
Because those kids will be your doctors and nurses someday |
mainer |
Apr-17-10 09:11 AM |
#99 |
| -
I got a HUGE tax refund for getting married. |
divvy |
Apr-17-10 09:42 AM |
#101 |
| -
Because they are future sources of revenue for the government. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-17-10 09:44 AM |
#103 |
| -
Because they are an investment and the govt has many mandates on parents (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Apr-17-10 09:49 AM |
#107 |
| -
It truly does take a village. |
Geek_Girl |
Apr-17-10 09:54 AM |
#109 |
| -
Kids cost money |
HughMoran |
Apr-17-10 09:54 AM |
#110 |
| -
The same reason people with children get unlimited sick time at |
WestSeattle2 |
Apr-17-10 10:48 AM |
#117 |
| -
if you're envious of people who have to leave work to pick up a sick kid, |
Bill McBlueState |
Apr-17-10 09:32 PM |
#146 |
| -
Envious? |
WestSeattle2 |
Apr-18-10 01:50 PM |
#168 |
| -
Because the government has a compelling interest in promoting procreation. |
WeDidIt |
Apr-17-10 10:51 AM |
#118 |
| -
You keep a starved dog from attacking by throwing it a bone |
Taitertots |
Apr-17-10 01:06 PM |
#123 |
| -
we pump more money into the economy..... . nt |
seabeyond |
Apr-17-10 02:01 PM |
#127 |
| -
Because without children there is no future for this planet. |
DCBob |
Apr-17-10 02:03 PM |
#128 |
| -
WITH children there is no future for this planet, which is screaming in pain from overpopulation |
pitohui |
Apr-17-10 07:01 PM |
#135 |
| -
Any positive reference to involuntary sterilization makes you an asshole. |
nemo137 |
Apr-17-10 08:58 PM |
#143 |
| -
The planet will be destroyed with or without us on it |
The Straight Story |
Apr-18-10 03:10 PM |
#172 |
| -
"...involuntary sterilization for those who have more then two..." |
olegramps |
Apr-19-10 05:55 AM |
#187 |
| -
I should get a tax credit for NOT having kids...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Apr-17-10 02:06 PM |
#129 |
| -
Because it's the job of the populace |
LWolf |
Apr-17-10 02:11 PM |
#131 |
| -
Because politicians can get lots of votes by giving people money. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-17-10 02:15 PM |
#132 |
| -
In theory, because kids are an investment. |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-17-10 02:19 PM |
#133 |
| -
Because those kids.. |
sendero |
Apr-17-10 07:12 PM |
#138 |
| -
Like the old days on DU: the parent wars |
bluestateguy |
Apr-17-10 07:19 PM |
#140 |
| -
Because having kids helps maintain the long-run tax base |
Dreamer Tatum |
Apr-17-10 07:19 PM |
#141 |
| -
Because it makes for such GREAT discussion on the internets. |
flvegan |
Apr-17-10 07:34 PM |
#142 |
| -
Because the right wing has been in charge most recently . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-17-10 09:49 PM |
#148 |
| -
Not so much to encourage people to have kids but so that they have more resources for them |
CreekDog |
Apr-17-10 09:59 PM |
#150 |
| -
Because people with children vote more reliably than those without. |
TransitJohn |
Apr-17-10 10:48 PM |
#153 |
| -
Why do the rich get tax cuts? |
eyeofdelphi |
Apr-18-10 12:53 AM |
#158 |
| -
Why not a tax credit for childless people who have pets? |
meow2u3 |
Apr-18-10 07:20 AM |
#160 |
| -
Because it is in society's interest to have kids. |
tonysam |
Apr-18-10 11:07 AM |
#164 |
| -
People who make that lifestyle choice want to reward others who do the same. |
RB TexLa |
Apr-18-10 12:46 PM |
#165 |
| -
so people like the Duggars can maximize their huge & selfish sucking of the taxpayers |
ima_sinnic |
Apr-18-10 02:12 PM |
#170 |
| -
It costs money to raise them and they are potential members of the |
treestar |
Apr-18-10 04:31 PM |
#180 |
| -
So we have more money to take them to restuarants... and on AIRPLANES |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-19-10 03:42 AM |
#185 |
| -
Perhaps the most equable solution is tax credits for three children. |
olegramps |
Apr-19-10 06:25 AM |
#188 |
| -
Net gain to social security within 40 years. n/t |
adamuu |
Apr-19-10 06:43 AM |
#191 |
| -
Because feeding the little carpet munchers cost money. n/t |
cynatnite |
Apr-19-10 10:06 PM |
#195 |
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