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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. We can win this one, and there's no reason to believe we can't fight it concurrently with others.
The Administration's caution on this is getting a bit ridiculous.
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  -Barney Frank says Obama is not for DADT repeal this year, 'frustrated, disappointed' with President Bluebear  Apr-12-10 09:13 PM   #0 
  - he's never been for it  Skittles   Apr-12-10 09:18 PM   #1 
  - I'm really starting to doubt Rahm's "Move to the right and get Ross Perot to run" strategy  DefenseLawyer   Apr-12-10 09:18 PM   #2 
  - but it's an election year - can't do anything "controversial" in an election year  ruggerson   Apr-12-10 09:20 PM   #3 
  - And it's only been 1 and a half years!!!1  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 09:20 PM   #4 
  - It's only a 4 year term!!11  EFerrari   Apr-12-10 10:59 PM   #61 
  - Exactly. They never stop campaigning.nt  EFerrari   Apr-12-10 10:58 PM   #59 
  - You can only fight one battle at a time.  theoldman   Apr-12-10 09:26 PM   #5 
  - We can win this one, and there's no reason to believe we can't fight it concurrently with others.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 09:41 PM   #10 
  - Yeah, that's why 75% of Americans favor gays serving openly. Any more apologia?  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 09:43 PM   #11 
     - just like the majority of Americans wanted a robust PO  amborin   Apr-12-10 10:16 PM   #19 
        - To hell with what the American people want  avaistheone1   Apr-13-10 02:36 AM   #71 
  - He clearly cut a deal with the military, but this is caution in the service of nothing.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 09:31 PM   #6 
  - This President does not support gay rights.  VMI Dem   Apr-12-10 09:35 PM   #7 
  - Truer words were never spoken. nt  DURHAM D   Apr-12-10 10:27 PM   #24 
  - Right.  closeupready   Apr-13-10 02:16 PM   #89 
  - Saw a WISER poll posted at Pam's House Blend  Bolo Boffin   Apr-12-10 09:37 PM   #8 
  - For what it's worth, polls that stress the "openly" part tend to get less encouraging results.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 09:39 PM   #9 
     - 75% at this poll...  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 09:44 PM   #12 
  - i'm a fierce advocate!  KG   Apr-12-10 09:45 PM   #13 
  - ...suckers!  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 09:48 PM   #15 
  - rofl  closeupready   Apr-13-10 02:17 PM   #90 
  - Face it, he's just not that into you. n/t  QC   Apr-12-10 09:47 PM   #14 
  - =)  Bluebear   Apr-15-10 03:57 PM   #106 
  - Shocker  Smashcut   Apr-12-10 09:49 PM   #16 
  - I thought that DADT repeal was going to be part of the Defense Authorization Bill  Proud Liberal Dem   Apr-12-10 10:05 PM   #17 
  - Obama could put a moratorium on GLBT firings in the military NOW pending repeal.  riderinthestorm   Apr-12-10 10:19 PM   #20 
  - That was more a proposal being floated around than a concrete plan.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 10:21 PM   #23 
     - He does NOT play a "large role" in setting the Congressional agenda.  Proud Liberal Dem   Apr-12-10 10:36 PM   #28 
        - Yes, that's why he cancelled his Asia trip to push health insurance reform through  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:38 PM   #31 
        - Of course he does. That's what being president means in modern times.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 10:44 PM   #37 
        - I thought that that's what we have majority/minority leaders & whips for?  Proud Liberal Dem   Apr-12-10 10:50 PM   #46 
           - They work with the president. I have no problem blaming them too.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 11:11 PM   #63 
        - They don't call the Presidency the "bully pulpit" for nothing.  riderinthestorm   Apr-12-10 10:44 PM   #39 
        - You're completely wrong  ruggerson   Apr-12-10 10:48 PM   #44 
        - Ah yes, he just gets the credit when something passes right?  Tailormyst   Apr-12-10 10:54 PM   #53 
           - +  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 03:33 AM   #72 
           - He is the greatest political genius in the history of human civilization  QC   Apr-13-10 08:38 AM   #73 
              - It's certainly something.........  Tailormyst   Apr-13-10 01:25 PM   #83 
                 - You said it.  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 11:14 PM   #99 
  - Between that and the whole EFCA thing...meh.  Brickbat   Apr-12-10 10:12 PM   #18 
  - +1 nt  laughingliberal   Apr-12-10 10:40 PM   #34 
  - I will join Barney in that revelatory realization  Mari333   Apr-12-10 10:20 PM   #21 
  - Scheduled for early 2011.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:21 PM   #22 
  - Just in time for the 2012 elections  Tailormyst   Apr-12-10 10:29 PM   #25 
     - Long list of things to do.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:31 PM   #27 
     - Yes, those will be so easy to "check off", we'll be right there next in line!  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:36 PM   #29 
     - Oh none of them are easy.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:41 PM   #35 
        - Why won't "my personal priority" be easy? Polls are overwhelmingly favorable.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:44 PM   #38 
        - You and your little pet issues!  QC   Apr-12-10 10:45 PM   #40 
        - Everybody has a personal favorite,  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:47 PM   #42 
        - 'So you'll have to take a number like everyone else.' - I don't know whose reincarnation you are  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:51 PM   #48 
        - I think the dolphins are dancing tonight. n/t  QC   Apr-12-10 10:59 PM   #60 
        - No they're not all important.  harkadog   Apr-12-10 10:54 PM   #54 
        - ...  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:58 PM   #58 
        - They're not all important to you,  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 11:01 PM   #62 
        - This is not a zero-sum game, and has never been.  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 11:14 PM   #64 
           - Thank you.  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 07:36 PM   #97 
        - When they recycle themselves you would think they'd choose a new script.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:52 PM   #51 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-10 10:46 PM   #41 
           - What fresh hell are you pushing here? What do teabaggers have to do with our President & Congress?  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:50 PM   #47 
              - I have a personal priority too. The economy.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:54 PM   #55 
        - Her "personal priority"?  Tailormyst   Apr-12-10 10:48 PM   #43 
        - Don't pick nits.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:49 PM   #45 
           - This isn't about semantics it is about equal rights, civil rights  Tailormyst   Apr-12-10 10:55 PM   #56 
              - I know, and I agree it's important.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:57 PM   #57 
                 - Just Not As Important As Anything Else.  Toasterlad   Apr-13-10 09:20 AM   #76 
                    - It's ALL important.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-13-10 01:57 PM   #86 
                       - No, You're the One EXCUSING It.  Toasterlad   Apr-13-10 03:04 PM   #91 
                          - ++++  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 04:47 PM   #94 
                          - Oh knock it off. I have nothing to do with any of it.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-13-10 11:15 PM   #100 
                             - I Have a Firm Grip On Myself, Thanks.  Toasterlad   Apr-14-10 09:15 AM   #101 
                                - +  Bluebear   Apr-14-10 04:57 PM   #105 
        - Christ on a cracker! You live in Canada! Where GLBTers can  bullwinkle428   Apr-12-10 11:22 PM   #65 
        - Yes, and where health care is free.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 11:27 PM   #66 
           - "I have no idea, I just read somewhere", then bloody hell STFU. Thank you.  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 01:35 AM   #70 
           - I added some info for you. You're welcome.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-13-10 01:58 PM   #87 
           - Scheduled for 2011 right before the 2012 elections  Tailormyst   Apr-13-10 08:47 AM   #74 
        - Civil Rights are "Your personal priority". Wild.  uppityperson   Apr-15-10 04:23 PM   #108 
     - Surprisingly equal rights always get pushed to the bottom of the list.  Tailormyst   Apr-12-10 10:38 PM   #30 
        - It's not the bottom, it's not even the middle.  ZeitgeistObserver   Apr-12-10 10:42 PM   #36 
     - don't worry after the 2010 elections  mitchtv   Apr-12-10 10:51 PM   #49 
     - See:  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:52 PM   #50 
     - I don't like the delay but that doesn't mean he opposes it  CreekDog   Apr-13-10 09:58 AM   #79 
        - My mother always said " actions speak louder then words"  Tailormyst   Apr-13-10 01:38 PM   #84 
           - No they haven't  CreekDog   Apr-13-10 01:46 PM   #85 
              - Okay, TO ME, his actions have spoken loudly and clearly.  Tailormyst   Apr-13-10 03:12 PM   #92 
                 - Indeed.  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 03:21 PM   #93 
                 - and to many observers outside too  CreekDog   Apr-13-10 05:02 PM   #96 
                    - I think I like you  Tailormyst   Apr-13-10 07:40 PM   #98 
                       - You caught me on a good day  CreekDog   Apr-14-10 01:02 PM   #102 
  - Like all politicians, he's looking at the next election cycle...  Robeson   Apr-12-10 10:30 PM   #26 
  - He should do this NOW and save Marijuana for 2012 n/t  Mojeoux   Apr-12-10 10:38 PM   #32 
  - I'll certainly be looking at him next election cycle.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:38 PM   #33 
     - I won"t  mitchtv   Apr-12-10 10:54 PM   #52 
  - Bullshit. It's Congress' job to pass laws  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-12-10 11:34 PM   #67 
  - So then I assume he'll be taking no credit for HCR passing.  Smashcut   Apr-13-10 12:59 AM   #68 
  - Blah, blah, blah.  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 01:34 AM   #69 
  - You won't mind if I call you on it every time you try to credit the president with some bill passing  Tailormyst   Apr-13-10 08:49 AM   #75 
  - Also, this poster knows more about how Congress works than does Barney Frank.  Bluebear   Apr-13-10 01:17 PM   #82 
  - I would expect nothing more from the poster who thinks prison rape is ok.  Forkboy   Apr-15-10 04:07 PM   #107 
  - Barack Obama Doesn't Care About Gay People.  Toasterlad   Apr-13-10 09:23 AM   #77 
  - That's probably an overly charitable interpretation of his behavior.  LeftyMom   Apr-13-10 09:45 AM   #78 
     - You certainly don't kick off your campaign by very publicly shitting on people  QC   Apr-13-10 10:05 AM   #80 
  - He has been saying --  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-13-10 10:19 AM   #81 
  - +1 and raise you  HillWilliam   Apr-14-10 02:14 PM   #103 
  - K&R... Considering that we went into Iraq without a Declaration  walldude   Apr-13-10 02:12 PM   #88 
  - get in line Barney.  branders seine   Apr-13-10 05:00 PM   #95 
  - Obama's views on GLBT folk are bigoted, so no surprise here.  Zhade   Apr-14-10 02:32 PM   #104 
  - Mr. Frank is in a long line.  deaniac21   Apr-15-10 04:32 PM   #109 
 

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