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Mon Apr-12-10 10:06 PM
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| 68. I especially don't like your reframing, dude...n/t |
| -Why I Criticized Code Pink by Jeff Norman on HuffPost |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:09 PM |
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Isn't Swanson violating his own rule by criticizing Norman? |
TheWraith |
Apr-12-10 08:20 PM |
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I heartily agree... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:23 PM |
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I disagree. Keeping the issue in the public forum *IS* substantive. Go Code Pink! |
nosmokes |
Apr-12-10 08:27 PM |
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Not in the way Code Pink does it... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:59 PM |
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You must be doing something yourself to expose |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-12-10 08:30 PM |
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As I have said before... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:33 PM |
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If you think that acting like wingnuts and mugging for the camera is substantive... |
TheWraith |
Apr-12-10 08:45 PM |
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It takes all kinds. In this age of Corporate Media, bless Code Pink for being outrageous |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-12-10 08:59 PM |
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How does being noticed negatively help? n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:00 PM |
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The difference being they don't get a fawning media lavishing coverage on them. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-12-10 09:10 PM |
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Those uppity women |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-12-10 08:34 PM |
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Thank you for that giant, fluffy strawman argument. nt |
TheWraith |
Apr-12-10 08:40 PM |
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yep |
HughMoran |
Apr-12-10 08:56 PM |
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Just acting like a bunch of silly suffragists used to in my grandmother's day... |
Generic Other |
Apr-12-10 10:37 PM |
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Did they disrupt the Congressional testimony of PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THEIR SIDE? eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-12-10 11:52 PM |
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Or try to take over Nancy Pelosi's office? n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 11:59 PM |
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As a matter of fact they did |
Generic Other |
Apr-13-10 12:03 AM |
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The question was whether they disrupted the testimony of their... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-13-10 12:15 AM |
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IOW, NOT people who supported women getting the right to vote. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-13-10 01:43 AM |
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I will never forget that Code Pink idiot in a tiara ruining Valerie Plame's testimony. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-12-10 08:35 PM |
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And I'll never forget Desiree ruining Condi's testimony |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-12-10 08:38 PM |
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And what do you think that accomplished? eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-12-10 08:41 PM |
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Forgive me, but.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:41 PM |
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If it weren't for Code Pink |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-12-10 09:09 PM |
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Oh, bullshit.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:12 PM |
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What other anti-war efforts have been on teevee lately?? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-12-10 09:54 PM |
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I'll never remember anything you did or said to change the world in anyway at all |
Generic Other |
Apr-12-10 10:40 PM |
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Backatcha. We don't know each other IRL. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-12-10 11:49 PM |
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Do you have a link to this article? Apparently there is a follow |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-12-10 08:26 PM |
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"then he's just blathering like the rest of them" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:30 PM |
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You need to edit this OP to add a link |
proud2BlibKansan |
Apr-12-10 08:35 PM |
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Thanks... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:42 PM |
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"more advanced operations" |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 08:44 PM |
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Umm, no.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 08:49 PM |
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That's not an honest critique |
HughMoran |
Apr-12-10 08:55 PM |
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Where are the more advanced operations? |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 08:58 PM |
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Usually the mechanic is not... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:01 PM |
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You can't be serious |
HughMoran |
Apr-12-10 09:01 PM |
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Where are Jeff's solutions? There are none. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:33 PM |
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What are Code Pink's solutions? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:35 PM |
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To use street theater to raise awareness |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:41 PM |
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Stupid response.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:45 PM |
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So it's no good if someone might criticize code pink? |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:48 PM |
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Nice attempt at reframing, dude.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:50 PM |
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Hey, it's your argument not mine. You just dont like where it's going. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:51 PM |
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No, I object to your reframing, dude.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:52 PM |
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You object to me getting to the root of your argument. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:54 PM |
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No, dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:56 PM |
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Your argument has already flopped. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:57 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:59 PM |
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My evaluation has as much validity as anyone elses. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:03 PM |
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I especially don't like your reframing, dude...n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:06 PM |
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You mean cutting to the chase of your argument. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:07 PM |
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You've won the argument |
HughMoran |
Apr-12-10 10:04 PM |
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He was responding to Davids "purity test" |
HughMoran |
Apr-12-10 09:44 PM |
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If you are going to put words in my mouth, |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:47 PM |
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Look, Until a critical mass of people are willing to actually get arrested |
G_j |
Apr-12-10 09:20 PM |
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"Look, Until a critical mass of people are willing to actually get arrested" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:23 PM |
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You are free to do something different yourself |
G_j |
Apr-12-10 09:37 PM |
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Including criticizing Code Pink....n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:46 PM |
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what do you care about? |
G_j |
Apr-12-10 10:01 PM |
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Why don't you research my posts and find out? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:05 PM |
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why would I want to do that? |
G_j |
Apr-12-10 10:29 PM |
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I have stated CLEARLY why I get upset about what Code Pink does. |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:34 PM |
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This is a low underhanded way of attcking another DUer |
arcadian |
Apr-12-10 09:28 PM |
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David Swanson? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:30 PM |
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Dupe....self-delete |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:30 PM |
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Michael Moore uses quite theatrical and unconventional protest techniques |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:34 PM |
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He makes movies.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:36 PM |
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Movies that use theatrics to make a point. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:42 PM |
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Except Moore reaches far more people... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:47 PM |
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Who says? |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:50 PM |
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Jesus, this is getting funny.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:54 PM |
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You said Moore "reaches more people". I'm asking you for proof of that |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 09:56 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:58 PM |
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Ticket sales don't mean much. And stop hyperbolizing on your right to an opinion |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:02 PM |
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I think I have a right to keep my opinion from being misrepresented... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:07 PM |
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You do not have a right to control opposing opinions. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:08 PM |
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Jesus, dude.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:10 PM |
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Because you said that you have some "right" not to have your opinions messed with |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:31 PM |
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Good night, dude....n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:34 PM |
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Have a good one. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:38 PM |
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That's a verbose bit of bleating |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-12-10 09:41 PM |
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Did you read what he actually wrote? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 09:49 PM |
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Well he did far more that suggest that |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-12-10 10:00 PM |
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I think Code Pink damages progressivism. |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:09 PM |
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he is a war criminal, someone should have thrown his ass in jail already |
Mari333 |
Apr-12-10 10:05 PM |
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Oh but lets bash Code Pink instead. It's soooo much more productive. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:06 PM |
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Stupid either/or argument.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:12 PM |
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It's stupid to bash Code Pink for their solutions and offer none of your own. |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:32 PM |
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Good night, dude....n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:35 PM |
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Code Pink is hardly going to... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:11 PM |
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Code Pink are the ONLY PEOPLE OUT THERE CALLING HIM A CRIMINAL |
Mari333 |
Apr-12-10 10:15 PM |
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And embarrassing progressivism in the process...n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:17 PM |
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so, if a Jew in 1944 saw Hitler and tried to take him down |
Mari333 |
Apr-12-10 10:25 PM |
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No.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:32 PM |
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Code Pink making "zero" impact? Care to qualify that |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:34 PM |
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Good night, dude....n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:36 PM |
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Oh dear! |
KonaKane |
Apr-12-10 10:33 PM |
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I'm going to assume CP isn't run by idiots... |
Cid_B |
Apr-12-10 10:22 PM |
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"I think they realize that pink tiaras and fluffy wands will never result |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:28 PM |
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Swanson refused to run what I had written because he thinks "self-critique from our own side" is so |
grantcart |
Apr-12-10 10:27 PM |
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So where are your strategies and big ideas as others have asked upthread? |
Generic Other |
Apr-12-10 11:03 PM |
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"Maybe they need to target our side for some mocking ridicule next" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 11:06 PM |
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Well clearly you have marginalized the women on our side without everyone's agreement |
Generic Other |
Apr-13-10 12:12 AM |
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DU has 147K+ members..... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-13-10 12:16 AM |
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Strategy and big ideas |
grantcart |
Apr-13-10 12:02 AM |
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No one has ever been prpsecuted for a crime? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-13-10 12:18 AM |
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No you prosecute people for the crime they have committed |
grantcart |
Apr-13-10 12:43 AM |
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Maybe you should read Bugliosi's book. |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-13-10 01:06 AM |
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Points of fact. Many liberals DID NOT support the ACLUs decision to take on |
Luminous Animal |
Apr-12-10 10:44 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-12-10 10:55 PM |
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Nice smear.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-12-10 10:57 PM |
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What a bunch of self-important fuckers |
Fading Captain |
Apr-13-10 12:45 AM |
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Are you talking about... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-13-10 01:08 AM |
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locking |
lazarus |
Apr-13-10 03:19 AM |
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