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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 08:44 PM
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16. "more advanced operations"
Which would be, what?

Until you have an answer for that, with an intelligent plan to realize them, leave Code Pink the fuck alone.
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  -Why I Criticized Code Pink by Jeff Norman on HuffPost SDuderstadt  Apr-12-10 08:09 PM   #0 
  - Isn't Swanson violating his own rule by criticizing Norman?  TheWraith   Apr-12-10 08:20 PM   #1 
  - I heartily agree...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:23 PM   #2 
  - I disagree. Keeping the issue in the public forum *IS* substantive. Go Code Pink!  nosmokes   Apr-12-10 08:27 PM   #4 
  - Not in the way Code Pink does it...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:59 PM   #23 
  - You must be doing something yourself to expose  sabrina 1   Apr-12-10 08:30 PM   #5 
  - As I have said before...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:33 PM   #7 
  - If you think that acting like wingnuts and mugging for the camera is substantive...  TheWraith   Apr-12-10 08:45 PM   #17 
     - It takes all kinds. In this age of Corporate Media, bless Code Pink for being outrageous  ShortnFiery   Apr-12-10 08:59 PM   #22 
     - How does being noticed negatively help? n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:00 PM   #24 
     - The difference being they don't get a fawning media lavishing coverage on them.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-12-10 09:10 PM   #28 
  - Those uppity women  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-12-10 08:34 PM   #8 
  - Thank you for that giant, fluffy strawman argument. nt  TheWraith   Apr-12-10 08:40 PM   #12 
  - yep  HughMoran   Apr-12-10 08:56 PM   #20 
  - Just acting like a bunch of silly suffragists used to in my grandmother's day...  Generic Other   Apr-12-10 10:37 PM   #93 
     - Did they disrupt the Congressional testimony of PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THEIR SIDE? eom  Hello_Kitty   Apr-12-10 11:52 PM   #102 
        - Or try to take over Nancy Pelosi's office? n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 11:59 PM   #103 
        - As a matter of fact they did  Generic Other   Apr-13-10 12:03 AM   #105 
           - The question was whether they disrupted the testimony of their...  SDuderstadt   Apr-13-10 12:15 AM   #107 
           - IOW, NOT people who supported women getting the right to vote.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-13-10 01:43 AM   #114 
  - I will never forget that Code Pink idiot in a tiara ruining Valerie Plame's testimony.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-12-10 08:35 PM   #9 
     - And I'll never forget Desiree ruining Condi's testimony  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-12-10 08:38 PM   #11 
     - And what do you think that accomplished? eom  Hello_Kitty   Apr-12-10 08:41 PM   #13 
     - Forgive me, but....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:41 PM   #14 
        - If it weren't for Code Pink  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-12-10 09:09 PM   #27 
           - Oh, bullshit....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:12 PM   #29 
              - What other anti-war efforts have been on teevee lately??  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-12-10 09:54 PM   #55 
     - I'll never remember anything you did or said to change the world in anyway at all  Generic Other   Apr-12-10 10:40 PM   #95 
        - Backatcha. We don't know each other IRL.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-12-10 11:49 PM   #101 
  - Do you have a link to this article? Apparently there is a follow  sabrina 1   Apr-12-10 08:26 PM   #3 
  - "then he's just blathering like the rest of them"  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:30 PM   #6 
  - You need to edit this OP to add a link  proud2BlibKansan   Apr-12-10 08:35 PM   #10 
  - Thanks...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:42 PM   #15 
  - "more advanced operations"  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 08:44 PM   #16 
  - Umm, no....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 08:49 PM   #18 
  - That's not an honest critique  HughMoran   Apr-12-10 08:55 PM   #19 
     - Where are the more advanced operations?  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 08:58 PM   #21 
        - Usually the mechanic is not...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:01 PM   #25 
        - You can't be serious  HughMoran   Apr-12-10 09:01 PM   #26 
           - Where are Jeff's solutions? There are none.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:33 PM   #35 
              - What are Code Pink's solutions?  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:35 PM   #37 
              - To use street theater to raise awareness  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:41 PM   #41 
                 - Stupid response....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:45 PM   #44 
                    - So it's no good if someone might criticize code pink?  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:48 PM   #48 
                       - Nice attempt at reframing, dude....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:50 PM   #50 
                          - Hey, it's your argument not mine. You just dont like where it's going.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:51 PM   #52 
                             - No, I object to your reframing, dude....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:52 PM   #53 
                                - You object to me getting to the root of your argument.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:54 PM   #56 
                                   - No, dude...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:56 PM   # 
                                      - Your argument has already flopped.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:57 PM   #58 
                                         - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:59 PM   #60 
                                            - My evaluation has as much validity as anyone elses.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:03 PM   #64 
                                            - I especially don't like your reframing, dude...n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:06 PM   #68 
                                               - You mean cutting to the chase of your argument.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:07 PM   #70 
                                            - You've won the argument  HughMoran   Apr-12-10 10:04 PM   #65 
              - He was responding to Davids "purity test"  HughMoran   Apr-12-10 09:44 PM   #43 
                 - If you are going to put words in my mouth,  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:47 PM   #47 
  - Look, Until a critical mass of people are willing to actually get arrested  G_j   Apr-12-10 09:20 PM   #30 
  - "Look, Until a critical mass of people are willing to actually get arrested"  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:23 PM   #31 
     - You are free to do something different yourself  G_j   Apr-12-10 09:37 PM   #39 
        - Including criticizing Code Pink....n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:46 PM   #45 
           - what do you care about?  G_j   Apr-12-10 10:01 PM   #62 
              - Why don't you research my posts and find out?  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:05 PM   #66 
                 - why would I want to do that?  G_j   Apr-12-10 10:29 PM   #83 
                    - I have stated CLEARLY why I get upset about what Code Pink does.  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:34 PM   #88 
  - This is a low underhanded way of attcking another DUer  arcadian   Apr-12-10 09:28 PM   #32 
  - David Swanson?  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:30 PM   #33 
  - Dupe....self-delete  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:30 PM   #34 
  - Michael Moore uses quite theatrical and unconventional protest techniques  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:34 PM   #36 
  - He makes movies....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:36 PM   #38 
     - Movies that use theatrics to make a point.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:42 PM   #42 
        - Except Moore reaches far more people...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:47 PM   #46 
           - Who says?  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:50 PM   #51 
              - Jesus, this is getting funny....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:54 PM   #54 
                 - You said Moore "reaches more people". I'm asking you for proof of that  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 09:56 PM   #57 
                    - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:58 PM   #59 
                       - Ticket sales don't mean much. And stop hyperbolizing on your right to an opinion  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:02 PM   #63 
                          - I think I have a right to keep my opinion from being misrepresented...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:07 PM   #71 
                             - You do not have a right to control opposing opinions.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:08 PM   #72 
                                - Jesus, dude....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:10 PM   #74 
                                   - Because you said that you have some "right" not to have your opinions messed with  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:31 PM   #84 
                                      - Good night, dude....n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:34 PM   #90 
                                         - Have a good one.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:38 PM   #94 
  - That's a verbose bit of bleating  Bluenorthwest   Apr-12-10 09:41 PM   #40 
  - Did you read what he actually wrote?  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 09:49 PM   #49 
     - Well he did far more that suggest that  Bluenorthwest   Apr-12-10 10:00 PM   #61 
        - I think Code Pink damages progressivism.  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:09 PM   #73 
  - he is a war criminal, someone should have thrown his ass in jail already  Mari333   Apr-12-10 10:05 PM   #67 
  - Oh but lets bash Code Pink instead. It's soooo much more productive.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:06 PM   #69 
  - Stupid either/or argument....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:12 PM   #76 
     - It's stupid to bash Code Pink for their solutions and offer none of your own.  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:32 PM   #86 
        - Good night, dude....n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:35 PM   #91 
  - Code Pink is hardly going to...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:11 PM   #75 
     - Code Pink are the ONLY PEOPLE OUT THERE CALLING HIM A CRIMINAL  Mari333   Apr-12-10 10:15 PM   #77 
        - And embarrassing progressivism in the process...n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:17 PM   #78 
           - so, if a Jew in 1944 saw Hitler and tried to take him down  Mari333   Apr-12-10 10:25 PM   #80 
           - No....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:32 PM   #85 
              - Code Pink making "zero" impact? Care to qualify that  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:34 PM   #89 
                 - Good night, dude....n/t  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:36 PM   #92 
           - Oh dear!  KonaKane   Apr-12-10 10:33 PM   #87 
  - I'm going to assume CP isn't run by idiots...  Cid_B   Apr-12-10 10:22 PM   #79 
  - "I think they realize that pink tiaras and fluffy wands will never result  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:28 PM   #82 
  - Swanson refused to run what I had written because he thinks "self-critique from our own side" is so  grantcart   Apr-12-10 10:27 PM   #81 
  - So where are your strategies and big ideas as others have asked upthread?  Generic Other   Apr-12-10 11:03 PM   #99 
     - "Maybe they need to target our side for some mocking ridicule next"  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 11:06 PM   #100 
     - Well clearly you have marginalized the women on our side without everyone's agreement  Generic Other   Apr-13-10 12:12 AM   #106 
        - DU has 147K+ members.....  SDuderstadt   Apr-13-10 12:16 AM   #108 
     - Strategy and big ideas  grantcart   Apr-13-10 12:02 AM   #104 
        - No one has ever been prpsecuted for a crime?  SDuderstadt   Apr-13-10 12:18 AM   #109 
           - No you prosecute people for the crime they have committed  grantcart   Apr-13-10 12:43 AM   #110 
              - Maybe you should read Bugliosi's book.  SDuderstadt   Apr-13-10 01:06 AM   #112 
  - Points of fact. Many liberals DID NOT support the ACLUs decision to take on  Luminous Animal   Apr-12-10 10:44 PM   #96 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-10 10:55 PM   #97 
  - Nice smear....  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-10 10:57 PM   #98 
  - What a bunch of self-important fuckers  Fading Captain   Apr-13-10 12:45 AM   #111 
  - Are you talking about...  SDuderstadt   Apr-13-10 01:08 AM   #113 
  - locking  lazarus   Apr-13-10 03:19 AM   #115 
 

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