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183. Interesting point re: it being a youth-up construct. (nt)
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  -"That's gay" as an insult. BlueStater  Apr-12-10 05:05 PM   #0 
  - agreed 101%  azurnoir   Apr-12-10 05:07 PM   #1 
  - +1  StopTheNeoCons   Apr-12-10 05:16 PM   #14 
  - Sometimes things get burned in to our vocabulary that are hard to get out  no limit   Apr-12-10 05:07 PM   #2 
  - maybe I'm just old but that usage of "gay" IMO  azurnoir   Apr-12-10 05:09 PM   #4 
  - eenie meenie minie moe, catch a _______ by the toe  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 05:10 PM   #6 
  - Is "tiger" offensive?  OneTenthofOnePercent   Apr-12-10 05:13 PM   #11 
  - The common word was "n..."  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 05:20 PM   #17 
  - I'm sure he knows. He also uses "gay" as an insult, so there you have it.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:20 PM   #19 
  - I always heard tiger until I got older and someone said the n word  Shell Beau   Apr-12-10 05:28 PM   #30 
  - It was the times I grew up in. My folks were pretty radically openminded  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 05:41 PM   #47 
  - The saying makes more sense, unfortunately, with the "n" word in place.  Shell Beau   Apr-12-10 05:43 PM   #48 
  - My little kid brain heard it as "nickle."  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:12 PM   #104 
  - I must have moved in the wrong crowds-- I'd only ever heard Tiger (grew up in 70s)  Malikshah   Apr-13-10 11:42 AM   #184 
  - SHOCKED -- Really ?????  SmileyRose   Apr-14-10 06:51 PM   #190 
  - In my family, we said, "tiger"  pinboy3niner   Apr-12-10 05:52 PM   #53 
  - I have never hear "n*****" until today. I always thought it was tiger.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Apr-12-10 06:20 PM   #65 
     - My friend, you must be young enough to have escaped  pinboy3niner   Apr-12-10 06:56 PM   #92 
     - Growing up, I never thought that rhyme made ANY sense.  darkstar3   Apr-12-10 07:24 PM   #113 
        - The silly notion of a TIGER paying 50 dollars every day . . .  pinboy3niner   Apr-12-10 07:56 PM   #132 
     - Many childrens rhymes and chants are based in horrifying histories.  wolfgangmo   Apr-13-10 10:37 AM   #180 
  - No... but I'd imagine willful ignorance is.  LanternWaste   Apr-13-10 07:47 AM   #165 
  - eenie meenie minie moe, catch old Hitler by the toe  Thirtieschild   Apr-12-10 05:16 PM   #13 
  - Someone very close to me who I love very much  Blue_In_AK   Apr-12-10 05:45 PM   #51 
  - I'm from Texas and don't know anyone that calls them that.  Flying Dream Blues   Apr-12-10 10:31 PM   #148 
  - That's good.  Blue_In_AK   Apr-12-10 11:51 PM   #157 
  - I grew up with that term...  TeeYiYi   Apr-13-10 09:04 AM   #170 
  - Whoa, I never heard of anything but "tiger" being used in  iris27   Apr-12-10 06:20 PM   #66 
  - it was a long time ago, in a galaxy far away  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 06:37 PM   #79 
  - always just thought it was tiger.  yodoobo   Apr-12-10 06:41 PM   #81 
  - I'm 28 -- not all that old -- and it never got burned into my vocab. n/t  iris27   Apr-12-10 06:19 PM   #64 
  - People stopped using the N word. They can stop saying "that's so gay."  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:08 PM   #100 
  - Only among a very certain subset of people is it common.  darkstar3   Apr-12-10 07:30 PM   #114 
  - it's not that hard to get out -- we just have to stop making BS excuses for it  fishwax   Apr-12-10 07:41 PM   #126 
  - "It can't be, I'm not a Republican."  Warpy   Apr-12-10 05:09 PM   #3 
  - this post is retarded  maxsolomon   Apr-12-10 05:10 PM   #5 
  - Yep both of those "gay" and "retarded" were both used pretty commonly when I was in HS.  alphafemale   Apr-12-10 06:59 PM   #93 
     - gerry-rigged?  maxsolomon   Apr-12-10 07:02 PM   #96 
     - Also VWs, though. nt  Smarmie Doofus   Apr-12-10 07:08 PM   #101 
     - My dad was of WWII vintage.  alphafemale   Apr-12-10 07:13 PM   #106 
        - Gran Torino was quite hard to watch. n/t  muffin1   Apr-12-10 07:49 PM   #129 
     - How 'bout "Jimmy the lock"?  darkstar3   Apr-12-10 07:33 PM   #117 
     - okay...???  alphafemale   Apr-12-10 07:39 PM   #123 
        - I was told that it was anti-irish,  darkstar3   Apr-12-10 07:59 PM   #135 
     - Never knew the origins behind "gypped" until I was in my early 20's.  iris27   Apr-12-10 09:06 PM   #142 
     - Huh, I thought it was jury-rigged, like a bought out jury.  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 10:37 PM   #151 
     - Actually the term is jury rig and it's origins are nautical.  Recovered Repug   Apr-13-10 05:33 AM   #161 
        - Jury Rigged is many centuries old, but Jerry Rigged is WW2 vintage.  Xithras   Apr-13-10 11:45 AM   #185 
  - Ain't that a bitch. (nt)  redqueen   Apr-12-10 05:10 PM   #7 
  - You got a problem with bitches?  Incitatus   Apr-12-10 07:07 PM   #99 
  - I agree with you. I wince when I hear it.  BurtWorm   Apr-12-10 05:10 PM   #8 
  - Me too. Seeing ignorance so proudly displayed is wince-worthy.  glitch   Apr-12-10 05:31 PM   #38 
     - That's the one that makes me mad  gvstn   Apr-12-10 06:43 PM   #82 
     - Yes. Insults boys and girls at the same time. A two-fer. n/t  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:14 PM   #107 
     - It pisses me off to no end that they use that in the military.  darkstar3   Apr-12-10 07:35 PM   #119 
  - I said it until I was about 15 or so when I learned better  Hippo_Tron   Apr-12-10 05:11 PM   #9 
  - I use it sometimes.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Apr-12-10 05:12 PM   #10 
  - It holds a LOT of water to gay people and you should be ashamed.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:14 PM   #12 
  - And how does "lame", used by the OP, come across to polio victims? /nt  jberryhill   Apr-12-10 05:21 PM   #20 
  - Does the physically challenged community self-identify as "lamers"?  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:23 PM   #22 
     - "Lamers"? No. "Lame", yes  jberryhill   Apr-12-10 05:27 PM   #29 
        - I don't know what your angle is here. "That's gay" is an offensive insult. Bottom line.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:29 PM   #31 
        - So is, "that's lame"  jberryhill   Apr-12-10 05:30 PM   #33 
           - Perfect, I don't use "that's lame" either.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:30 PM   #35 
           - Actually, one of the dictionary definitions of "lame" is weak.  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:02 PM   #95 
        - Look. Gay people are discriminated against every fucking day in this country.  muffin1   Apr-12-10 05:40 PM   #46 
           - I agree  jberryhill   Apr-12-10 05:45 PM   #49 
              - Who is saying it is an acceptable substitute? n/t  muffin1   Apr-12-10 07:34 PM   #118 
  - So you speak for all gay people now?  no limit   Apr-13-10 08:24 AM   #167 
  - I had a 20ish male lecture me that "bitch" shouldn't be offensive to me, a 50ish female  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 05:27 PM   #28 
  - Is bitch only offensive as a noun?  hughee99   Apr-12-10 06:26 PM   #70 
     - IMO, depends on the circumstance.  iris27   Apr-12-10 06:31 PM   #74 
     - It depends on how its used. My sibs and I call each other "the bitches" but you can't  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 06:36 PM   #78 
        - It's an odd word in several ways  hughee99   Apr-12-10 07:14 PM   #108 
  - "....than AIDS"???  iris27   Apr-12-10 06:26 PM   #71 
  - Please STOP. It's a terrible and hurtful habit.  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 06:59 PM   #94 
  - +1 n/t  AngryOldDem   Apr-13-10 08:21 AM   #166 
  - Perhaps you need to work on your vocab. nt  RedCappedBandit   Apr-12-10 09:06 PM   #141 
  - And now that you know it is offensive,  LanternWaste   Apr-13-10 09:12 AM   #174 
  - "the word having evolved to mean "lame""  jberryhill   Apr-12-10 05:16 PM   #15 
  - You could have gotten your point across without the photo.  BlueStater   Apr-12-10 06:35 PM   #77 
  - One of the dictionary definitions of "lame" is "weak." So to use the word lame  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:16 PM   #109 
  - It pisses me off.  Love Bug   Apr-12-10 05:17 PM   #16 
  - The word gay has many different meanings to different folks  npk   Apr-12-10 05:20 PM   #18 
  - Not Really.  Toasterlad   Apr-12-10 05:29 PM   #32 
  - Yes, gay used to mean happy. But to say "that homework is so gay" is clearly  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:04 PM   #97 
     - I agree with you 100%  npk   Apr-12-10 07:39 PM   #124 
     - I've always heard it used as an adjective...  snooper2   Apr-13-10 09:05 AM   #172 
     - dupe post due to IE being a shitty piece of software  snooper2   Apr-13-10 09:05 AM   #173 
  - The answer to "words changing over time"...  IntravenousDemilo   Apr-12-10 05:22 PM   #21 
  - Rethugs have used all those hate words, to ruin their offensiveness.  Gman2   Apr-12-10 05:23 PM   #23 
  - "That's so ______." I've asked people to substitute a socially unacceptable slang w/ 'gay' before  Echo In Light   Apr-12-10 05:25 PM   #24 
  - And I can't stand 'just sayin', but people use it, and they are not trying  Obamanaut   Apr-12-10 05:25 PM   #25 
  - You poor thing.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:26 PM   #26 
  - Now that response was so g, er, lame. nt  Obamanaut   Apr-12-10 05:31 PM   #39 
     - It's all I could muster for a post so dismissive of a community as yours was.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:36 PM   #43 
     - Notice the first line in the OP.  Obamanaut   Apr-12-10 05:59 PM   #56 
        - I guess Bluebear was hoping he might find democratic  muffin1   Apr-12-10 06:45 PM   #83 
        - Nothing surprises me here anymore, love.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 06:56 PM   #91 
           - I know. I only wish I WAS surprised.  muffin1   Apr-12-10 07:37 PM   #120 
           - you got my support too ,bluebear  mitchtv   Apr-12-10 10:31 PM   #149 
        - We know what you think now. And we know you're an insensitive boor.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 06:52 PM   #87 
           - just sayin' nt  Obamanaut   Apr-12-10 06:54 PM   #89 
              - Just sayin' you're off to the ignore pile. What a jerk.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 06:55 PM   #90 
              - Had To Jump In Somwehere  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-13-10 05:37 AM   #162 
              - Your attitude makes me sick.  muffin1   Apr-12-10 07:44 PM   #128 
     - If you know it is offensive to gay people, why would you still  Shell Beau   Apr-12-10 05:38 PM   #44 
  - You People In the Just Sayin' Community Have It Rough.  Toasterlad   Apr-12-10 05:31 PM   #40 
  - Yeah, that's the same...  muffin1   Apr-12-10 05:33 PM   #41 
  - You are as insensitive to gays as your namesake.  VMI Dem   Apr-12-10 06:29 PM   #73 
  - +1  muffin1   Apr-12-10 06:46 PM   #84 
  - +1  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 06:53 PM   #88 
  - That's not analogous. "That's so gay" connects the word "gay" with something negative.  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:07 PM   #98 
  - gosh, that's almost the same thing  fishwax   Apr-12-10 07:50 PM   #130 
  - What precisely is insulting about the phrase, "just sayin'..."?  LanternWaste   Apr-13-10 09:14 AM   #175 
  - I avoid both "gay" and "lame" as an insult. As a professional writer and editor, I make myself and  Brickbat   Apr-12-10 05:26 PM   #27 
  - How can gay being equivalent to lame not be offensive?  Shell Beau   Apr-12-10 05:30 PM   #34 
  - Precisely  Echo In Light   Apr-12-10 05:30 PM   #36 
  - Cue calls of "everyone is too PC" and "poutrage" and "looking to be offended"  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 05:40 PM   #45 
     - I agree things can get too PC from time to time, but if someone is  Shell Beau   Apr-12-10 05:48 PM   #52 
  - Agreed.  wakemewhenitsover   Apr-12-10 05:31 PM   #37 
  - yes, it's horrible. sadly, the youth tend to say it because they're less educated, they need  Divine Discontent   Apr-12-10 05:36 PM   #42 
  - And Jon Stewart's got people calling each other "pussies" and "douches." nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-12-10 06:12 PM   #61 
     - pussies? that's not cool. I don't watch him (no cable) but he should know better.  Divine Discontent   Apr-12-10 07:12 PM   #105 
     - For as much as I love Jon, he really is fairly clueless in the sexism and racism departments.  iris27   Apr-12-10 07:24 PM   #112 
        - I'm starting to think he's just insensitive. How can he not know? I don't see the show often  Captain Hilts   Apr-13-10 08:45 AM   #168 
  - I hate it.  donco6   Apr-12-10 05:45 PM   #50 
  - My 14 y/o great niece joined the FB group against using 'so gay' as an insult. Good for her! n/t  CurtEastPoint   Apr-12-10 05:52 PM   #54 
  - That's fantastic. I'm sure you've told her how proud you are of her.  muffin1   Apr-12-10 05:57 PM   #55 
  - Something I like to tell people:  Dr Morbius   Apr-12-10 05:59 PM   #57 
  - I call it "teacher voice."  donco6   Apr-12-10 06:03 PM   #58 
  - I hate it too, but  d_r   Apr-12-10 06:04 PM   #59 
  - And it's sexist to insult a man by calling him a "pussy" or "douche" but no one cares. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-12-10 06:11 PM   #60 
  - Yeah. You're right.  BlueStater   Apr-12-10 06:22 PM   #67 
  - Wow! I didn't know the 'lame' thing either. I've picked that one up here. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-12-10 06:24 PM   #68 
  - I think there's a difference, though.  BlueStater   Apr-12-10 06:28 PM   #72 
     - Lame is popular with the equine crowd  mitchtv   Apr-12-10 10:40 PM   #152 
  - "lame". I hadn't heard that was incorrect. I've always use things like  madinmaryland   Apr-12-10 07:08 PM   #102 
  - It equates physical impairment - lameness - with negativity.  Dr Morbius   Apr-12-10 07:39 PM   #122 
  - I hadn't thought of actually associating lame with disabled people, assuming  madinmaryland   Apr-12-10 08:58 PM   #137 
  - I guess now I will have to say it is a "piss-poor" excuse.  madinmaryland   Apr-12-10 08:59 PM   #138 
  - Lame means "weak," according to my dictionary.  pnwmom   Apr-14-10 06:47 PM   #188 
  - i think we call them disabled now because lame was so offensive, so its confusng!  bettyellen   Apr-12-10 07:58 PM   #134 
  - Lame also means "weak," as in a "lame argument." The word gay doesn't mean weak. n/t  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 07:19 PM   #111 
  - Or even a girl  JerseygirlCT   Apr-12-10 06:33 PM   #76 
  - Yes! WHAT could be worse than being called a 'girl'!!! Good point. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-12-10 06:38 PM   #80 
  - Some of us care. nt  iris27   Apr-12-10 07:17 PM   #110 
     - Keep the faith, Iris27!  Captain Hilts   Apr-12-10 10:28 PM   #147 
  - I know some otherswise smart people (or thought they were) who say that...  Whisp   Apr-12-10 06:16 PM   #62 
  - LOL...I initially read your first sentence as "I'm just curious what you GAYS think about it". :)  iris27   Apr-12-10 06:17 PM   #63 
  - i get on people at work when they use it  fizzgig   Apr-12-10 06:26 PM   #69 
  - Good comeback. Thanks. n/t  Qutzupalotl   Apr-12-10 06:47 PM   #86 
  - Good for you! I have stopped total strangers in a stre to tell them off for it.  Lisa0825   Apr-12-10 07:43 PM   #127 
  - "what exactly was homosexual about the situation" is a VERY good comeback.  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 10:43 PM   #153 
  - I don't let it go uncorrected  JerseygirlCT   Apr-12-10 06:32 PM   #75 
  - I've said it before. Not as an insult but because whatever it was - was totally gay!  devilgrrl   Apr-12-10 06:46 PM   #85 
  - The banality of evil. It may be mindless but it's contemtptible. nt  Smarmie Doofus   Apr-12-10 07:11 PM   #103 
  - It's homophobic, it's offensive, it should not be tolerated. n/t  Unvanguard   Apr-12-10 07:31 PM   #115 
  - I think it's terrible. nt.  WeekendWarrior   Apr-12-10 07:31 PM   #116 
  - I think it is an insult  ccharles000   Apr-12-10 07:38 PM   #121 
  - I continue to use "gay" in its original meaning.  timtom   Apr-12-10 07:40 PM   #125 
  - As in John Denver singing "sunshine on my shoulder makes me happy, sunshine on my shoulder makes me  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 10:45 PM   #154 
  - The majority of gays here have said it's offensive.  donco6   Apr-12-10 07:54 PM   #131 
  - All you need to know.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 08:06 PM   #136 
  - +1 with sadness. nt  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 10:45 PM   #155 
  - All you ever need to know about their character.  myrna minx   Apr-13-10 09:33 AM   #176 
  - It is vile  guitar man   Apr-12-10 07:58 PM   #133 
  - It is used as a negative...which makes it bad...nt  and-justice-for-all   Apr-12-10 09:00 PM   #139 
  - I don't think teenagers think about it too much....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Apr-12-10 09:06 PM   #140 
  - They don't, but they should -- and will, if approached about it. The best is  pnwmom   Apr-12-10 10:17 PM   #146 
  - Yes, it's offensive  TuxedoKat   Apr-12-10 09:47 PM   #143 
  - Then there's the word "dumb".  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-12-10 10:05 PM   #144 
  - Another word I hate: "Spaz", it's a reference to a person with Cerebral Palsy.  Odin2005   Apr-12-10 10:06 PM   #145 
  - My mom was wonderful, had MS. She tripped once, friend said "are you spastic?"in one of those voices  uppityperson   Apr-12-10 10:31 PM   #150 
  - I hate that term as well.  Bluebear   Apr-12-10 10:46 PM   #156 
  - I am amused  Codeine   Apr-13-10 12:09 AM   #158 
  - There was an "irregardless" thread? Pet peeve of mine...glad I missed it.  TokenQueer   Apr-13-10 07:23 AM   #163 
  - they're not really similar issues at all  fishwax   Apr-13-10 10:09 AM   #179 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-10 12:21 AM   #159 
  - The meaning of words does change over time  JoeyT   Apr-13-10 02:15 AM   #160 
  - Depends who's saying it. I've mostly given up being offended by it.  Prism   Apr-13-10 07:45 AM   #164 
  - Interesting point re: it being a youth-up construct. (nt)  redqueen   Apr-13-10 11:36 AM   #183 
  - It's probably not the best thing to say but...  bamacrat   Apr-13-10 08:52 AM   #169 
  - This thread has scores of LGBT people telling you it has *not* lost all meaning.  myrna minx   Apr-13-10 09:35 AM   #177 
     - I don't say it to them or in front of them. So...  bamacrat   Apr-13-10 10:42 AM   #181 
        - Then exactly what do you mean  muffin1   Apr-13-10 12:10 PM   #186 
           - Well many things....  bamacrat   Apr-14-10 12:13 AM   #187 
              - So, when you use 'gay' to refer to something stupid,  muffin1   Apr-15-10 10:13 AM   #191 
  - I stopped using it many years ago  slackmaster   Apr-13-10 09:05 AM   #171 
  - Just had this conversation w my 13 yo, who isn't homophobic.  mod mom   Apr-13-10 09:42 AM   #178 
  - I agree. The same thing happened talking to a teen I know.  pnwmom   Apr-14-10 06:49 PM   #189 
  - According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the negative use of "gay" goes back to 1978  Love Bug   Apr-13-10 11:33 AM   #182 
 

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