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Response to Reply #137
161. The Green's party has had little to no electoral success
Edited on Sun Apr-11-10 03:58 PM by NJmaverick
why would the Dems want to court sure disaster?
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  -Should the Democrats consider and treat the Green party as they do the GOP? NJmaverick  Apr-11-10 10:54 AM   #0 
  - We have the Green Party and Ralph Nader to  MineralMan   Apr-11-10 10:56 AM   #1 
  - jajaja  mdmc   Apr-11-10 11:02 AM   #3 
  - Oh Dog, not that tired old piece of shit excuse.  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:03 AM   #4 
  - That Florida race couldn't have been stolen if there had been, say,  MineralMan   Apr-11-10 11:18 AM   #14 
  - Yeah, yeah, I know the rest of your tired old canard.  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:23 AM   #20 
  - Our opinions differ, clearly.  MineralMan   Apr-11-10 11:36 AM   #28 
  - Oh, goody for you.  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:48 AM   #31 
  - I blame the monarch  Moochy   Apr-11-10 11:54 AM   #36 
  - And, of course, the voter purges carried out under Jeb and Katherine were not a factor  laughingliberal   Apr-11-10 12:17 PM   #56 
  - They call me uppity, but I find things like this to interfere with discussion...  uppityperson   Apr-11-10 05:42 PM   #202 
  - The Florida race was stolen by Jeb and Cruella before Nader was even on the ballot  Sebastian Doyle   Apr-11-10 02:33 PM   #142 
  - Preach it! That fucking meme fucking died years ago, and they are too fucking tired to bury it.  bobbolink   Apr-11-10 03:58 PM   #172 
  - Oh please  AnOhioan   Apr-11-10 11:06 AM   #5 
  - Now that part I will buy.  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:12 AM   #9 
  - gore also screwed the pooch on gun control  paulsby   Apr-11-10 12:26 PM   #63 
  - Not only that he chose Donna Brazille for his campaign manager.n/t  Cleita   Apr-11-10 02:05 PM   #127 
  - And Gore is the first one to admit this...  walldude   Apr-11-10 03:35 PM   #156 
  - like al gore's campaign had nothing to do with it. ok fine nt  msongs   Apr-11-10 11:20 AM   #16 
  - Bullfuckingshit  conscious evolution   Apr-11-10 11:20 AM   #17 
  - that's crap  nickinSTL   Apr-11-10 11:29 AM   #24 
  - Yeah if Nader hadn't stood out there with a gun and forced people to vote  walldude   Apr-11-10 11:52 AM   #34 
  - You are not based in reality.  asdjrocky   Apr-11-10 12:14 PM   #51 
  - nader has no power w/o nader voters  paulsby   Apr-11-10 12:25 PM   #62 
  - Um, it was the Supreme Court that selected Bush.  Lucian   Apr-11-10 12:57 PM   #99 
  - My New Blu-Ray Player Stopped Working After Only Six Months. Goddamn You, Ralph Nader!  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 02:25 PM   #139 
  - WOW. Nader must be SUPERMAN!!!  bvar22   Apr-11-10 02:31 PM   #141 
  - The Democratic Party needs to destroy the Green Party and the GOP  Gman   Apr-11-10 10:56 AM   #2 
  - The Democratic Party is doing a fine job of destroying itself already.  AnOhioan   Apr-11-10 11:08 AM   #8 
  - Amen.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 02:21 PM   #135 
  - This two party, winner takes all system sucks.  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:18 AM   #13 
  - Not American Nor Exceptional enough  Moochy   Apr-11-10 11:25 AM   #21 
     - damn right  paulsby   Apr-11-10 12:27 PM   #65 
        - Not the DU I'm reading  Moochy   Apr-11-10 12:31 PM   #69 
           - rubbish  paulsby   Apr-11-10 12:39 PM   #72 
              - Here's my opinion  Moochy   Apr-11-10 12:49 PM   #86 
                 - that's irrelevant to the factual statement  paulsby   Apr-11-10 01:20 PM   #108 
                    - It's relevant to your bias  Moochy   Apr-11-10 01:42 PM   #113 
                       - it's relevant to the fact that you ignore the facts and embrace a double standard  paulsby   Apr-11-10 01:47 PM   #115 
                          - The sunday morning bridge crew  Moochy   Apr-11-10 01:58 PM   #119 
  - Yes our common values of Environmental Protections and Social Justice be damned - EVIL GREENS!  ShortnFiery   Apr-11-10 11:25 AM   #22 
  - Greens file for office to defeat a Democrat. That makes them my enemy  Gman   Apr-11-10 11:35 AM   #26 
  - They are trying to keep them honest.  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:39 AM   #29 
  - Neo-Liberal Organizing Tactics  Moochy   Apr-11-10 11:50 AM   #32 
  - And that is okay with me. It helps to illuminate how closely aligned the Dems  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 12:54 PM   #96 
  - Amazing how tough someone can sound sitting behind a keyboard  jgraz   Apr-11-10 02:16 PM   #134 
  - +1000  amborin   Apr-11-10 08:18 PM   #208 
  - It seems the Greens will team up with whoever is out of power  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 11:51 AM   #33 
  - The best way the Democrats could destroy the Greens...  Tesha   Apr-11-10 12:49 PM   #85 
  - The Democratic Party needs to destroy the DLC and the BlueBalled Cowards.  Sebastian Doyle   Apr-11-10 02:28 PM   #140 
  - I can't tell when you're being sarcastic.  rucky   Apr-11-10 08:19 PM   #210 
  - Silly position, since many of us vote for members of both parties.  Xithras   Apr-12-10 11:50 AM   #232 
  - With undue consideration?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-11-10 11:08 AM   #6 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-11-10 11:08 AM   #7 
  - I'm a Democrat who frequently votes for Greens.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-11-10 11:13 AM   #10 
  - Bingo!  Webster Green   Apr-11-10 11:21 AM   #18 
  - Exactly where in the constitution is the word "democracy" ?  slampoet   Apr-11-10 11:27 AM   #23 
     - Exactly where in the constitution are the words "Democratic Party"?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-11-10 12:24 PM   #61 
        - They are in the Federalist Papers.  slampoet   Apr-11-10 01:18 PM   #107 
           - Nowhere. So, what? It's an obvious presupposition in the Constitution.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-11-10 01:58 PM   #118 
              - Voting = republic  slampoet   Apr-11-10 03:03 PM   #147 
                 - Well, count me as a believer in Democracy.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-11-10 03:09 PM   #149 
                 - If you believe in Democracy tell me when was the last time you've been to a city council meeting?  slampoet   Apr-11-10 09:41 PM   #217 
                    - I've never been to a city council meeting. What has that to do with it?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-11-10 11:01 PM   #225 
                       - City council meetings are the prime example of participatory democracy in the USA and have been for  slampoet   Apr-13-10 01:24 AM   #235 
                 - That sort of definition fits well on a Ron Paul flyer, but doesn't hold up.  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 03:14 PM   #150 
                    - If you support a third party it does.  slampoet   Apr-11-10 09:40 PM   #216 
                       - Um... what?  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 10:23 PM   #223 
  - that would be great!!  RainDog   Apr-11-10 11:14 AM   #11 
  - LOL! I hadn't thought of it that way! :)  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 12:50 PM   #90 
  - It's winner take all; therefore, it's a competition with every other party.  DevonRex   Apr-11-10 11:14 AM   #12 
  - Personally, I think that Greens should......................  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-10 11:19 AM   #15 
  - How best to win those green voters over than to pledge to destroy their institution  Moochy   Apr-11-10 11:22 AM   #19 
  - It seems to me the Greens oppose whoever is in power  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 11:54 AM   #35 
     - Dunno maybe go to a Green Underground.com?  Moochy   Apr-11-10 11:55 AM   #38 
     - very small-minded and binary thinking  RainDog   Apr-11-10 12:43 PM   #75 
  - Common ground? The Greens are considerably to the left of the Democrats. The Greens  salguine   Apr-11-10 11:34 AM   #25 
  - "The Greens are only there because the Democrats have made them necessary. "  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 12:51 PM   #92 
  - +1000  amborin   Apr-11-10 09:48 PM   #219 
  - gee duh...  Ysabel   Apr-11-10 11:35 AM   #27 
  - There are many Dems who have voted for Republicans as well  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 11:54 AM   #37 
  - my point is (duh) dems need votes...  Ysabel   Apr-11-10 12:09 PM   #46 
     - Are you aware that 9% of the voters that voted for Obama were Republicans?  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:11 PM   #47 
        - yeah so and what is your point / you started this dumb thread...  Ysabel   Apr-11-10 12:12 PM   #49 
           - No I am supporting my assertion that there are many similarities  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:14 PM   #52 
              - well i differ / and grow tired of this as well / see you later...  Ysabel   Apr-11-10 12:22 PM   #60 
              - where is any data to support this assertion?  RainDog   Apr-11-10 01:37 PM   #112 
              - I find it amusing that "working against the Dems",  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 04:04 PM   #178 
                 - Amusing? I find it shocking. And depressing.  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 04:11 PM   #186 
  - Oh no, it is much better to follow the same strategy that kept them out  Greyhound   Apr-11-10 12:38 PM   #71 
  - No  Johonny   Apr-11-10 11:46 AM   #30 
  - You mean reach out to them in the spirit of bipartisanship?  fishwax   Apr-11-10 11:57 AM   #39 
  - Technically that would be tripartisanship  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 11:58 AM   #41 
     - not if we cut out the GOP  fishwax   Apr-11-10 12:13 PM   #50 
  - when they start illegal wars and torturing ask me again  Motown_Johnny   Apr-11-10 11:58 AM   #40 
  - it's easy to be pure when you have no power  paulsby   Apr-11-10 12:29 PM   #67 
     - Its easy to be dismissive of would-be allies  Moochy   Apr-11-10 01:54 PM   #117 
        - have you ever looked at kucinich's RECORD?  paulsby   Apr-11-10 01:58 PM   #120 
           - Yeah that fool! That useless fool!  Moochy   Apr-11-10 02:01 PM   #123 
              - you really can't ever just address a basic topic without wandering off into nonsequiters, ad hominem  paulsby   Apr-11-10 02:08 PM   #129 
                 - Yeah I just looked at his record  Moochy   Apr-11-10 02:12 PM   #133 
  - I'm a green who sometimes votes for democrats...  mike_c   Apr-11-10 11:59 AM   #42 
  - I hear that :^(  GreenPartyVoter   Apr-11-10 03:15 PM   #152 
  - +1  varelse   Apr-11-10 03:59 PM   #173 
  - If they're working to defeat Democrats, then they deserve to be treated as such.  Patriot 76   Apr-11-10 12:02 PM   #43 
  - Greens are not the enemy.  redwitch   Apr-11-10 12:04 PM   #44 
  - Sure, I think the Democratic Party should officially reject...  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 12:08 PM   #45 
  - They don't do that with the GOP (because they can't disagree on things like national security and  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:12 PM   #48 
  - I didn't claim that they did that with the GOP.  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 12:16 PM   #54 
  - As I said in my original OP it's on an ideological issue it's an election issue  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:42 PM   #73 
     - And damned the consequences.  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 12:49 PM   #87 
        - no better than having a (G) after their name  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:51 PM   #91 
           - I may be wrong but you seem to be advocating opposing the Green Party  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 12:59 PM   #100 
              - The Green Party is already opposing the Dems so why shouldn't  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 01:01 PM   #102 
                 - The Green Party does not oppose Democratic candidates simply because they have a (D)  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 01:59 PM   #121 
  - To justify their status on the enemies list  Moochy   Apr-11-10 12:17 PM   #55 
  - Then the Dems would be just the Repubs....  AnOhioan   Apr-11-10 12:47 PM   #80 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-11-10 12:16 PM   #53 
  - Umm, don't they do that already?  MadHound   Apr-11-10 12:18 PM   #57 
  - Didn't the GOP and the right help finance Green candidate Nader???  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:20 PM   #59 
     - During the '00 when he ran on the Green Party ticket, no, he didn't get GOP money  MadHound   Apr-11-10 12:27 PM   #64 
     - I am talking 08  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:30 PM   #68 
        - As I said previously, Nader wasn't on the Green ticket  MadHound   Apr-11-10 12:34 PM   #70 
           - It seems to me the Greens oppose whoever is in power  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:43 PM   #74 
              - Umm, the Greens have never worked with the Dems,  MadHound   Apr-11-10 12:47 PM   #79 
              - Well you agree with me then. You know the Dems have certainly pushed issues the Greens support  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:50 PM   #88 
                 - Actually, given just the modern record of issues the Dems and 'Pugs have cooperated on  MadHound   Apr-11-10 12:54 PM   #95 
                    - Eliminating banks in student loans, raising CAFE standards, ending ban on Stem Cell research  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:59 PM   #101 
                       - But...but...but...  MineralMan   Apr-11-10 01:21 PM   #109 
              - Many things seemed magical to the people in the middle ages too  Moochy   Apr-11-10 12:47 PM   #81 
     - 100 times more Republican money went to Kerry than to Nader.  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 12:29 PM   #66 
  - Well the Democrats have voted for Republican policies on many occasions...  Bjorn Against   Apr-11-10 12:19 PM   #58 
  - green positions have proven to be winners in other western democracies  RainDog   Apr-11-10 12:46 PM   #78 
  - Why Not Allow All Party Candidates to Debate?  LeFleur1   Apr-11-10 12:48 PM   #84 
  - Should the Green Party consider and treat Democrats as they do the GOP?  rug   Apr-11-10 12:45 PM   #76 
  - Seems to me that is already happening, which is why I raised the question  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 12:48 PM   #83 
  - Clumsy, as usual. - n/t  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 12:46 PM   #77 
  - +1000000  RainDog   Apr-11-10 12:47 PM   #82 
     - Um, not quite that advanced, sadly. More like Kerplunking!  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 01:04 PM   #104 
  - You are assuming that Democrats are on the left..  Fumesucker   Apr-11-10 12:50 PM   #89 
  - I really wish the rec function extended to replies as well  AnOhioan   Apr-11-10 12:53 PM   #93 
  - +1  Lucian   Apr-11-10 12:56 PM   #98 
  - Anbody who blames Nader for 2000 hates Democracy  arcadian   Apr-11-10 12:54 PM   #94 
  - Funny world when you are villified for  walldude   Apr-11-10 01:03 PM   #103 
  - Um, the Greens are the only true Progressives left.  Lucian   Apr-11-10 12:55 PM   #97 
  - What about dems like Kucinich, Grayson and Dean?  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 01:04 PM   #105 
     - I'm sure if the Greens were a strong, viable party...  Lucian   Apr-11-10 01:43 PM   #114 
        - Regardless, you have to admit that the Greens do not have a monopoly on progressive  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 01:47 PM   #116 
           - Well of course they don't.  Lucian   Apr-11-10 01:59 PM   #122 
  - Greens don't accomplish a God Damn thing  TexasObserver   Apr-11-10 01:07 PM   #106 
  - greens have won elections where I live  RainDog   Apr-11-10 01:35 PM   #111 
  - So, are you saying that the Greens are simultaneously ineffective and powerful?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-11-10 02:02 PM   #124 
  - province of overgrown juveniles.  Moochy   Apr-11-10 02:04 PM   #126 
  - curious - do you think the democratic party should be the party of pederasts, too?  RainDog   Apr-11-10 01:29 PM   #110 
  - The Greens were a symptom of the Democrats pulling to centrism and  Cleita   Apr-11-10 02:03 PM   #125 
  - In my area Green Party members are disaffected Democrats  tnlefty   Apr-11-10 02:08 PM   #128 
  - Why? It's a two-party system, and the Dems are one of the two. The Greens are no threat, but...  ClassWarrior   Apr-11-10 02:09 PM   #130 
  - It's possible that the Green Party in the United States will begin  saltpoint   Apr-11-10 02:11 PM   #131 
  - A better question would be: Should we treat the Democrats the same as the GOP?  Ardent15   Apr-11-10 02:12 PM   #132 
  - Good point. GOP is as GOP does. nt  laughingliberal   Apr-11-10 02:23 PM   #138 
  - If the Democratic Party Was True To Its Ideals, There Would Be No Green Party.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 02:22 PM   #136 
  - I doubt it, the Dems and the Greens do have differences in core principles  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:56 PM   #170 
  - Please Elaborate  Moochy   Apr-11-10 03:59 PM   #176 
     - This is your topic, feel free to post of list of the similarities and differences  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:05 PM   #180 
        - "most posters here already know all or most of that information"  Moochy   Apr-11-10 04:08 PM   #182 
           - I don't see any specifics that you care to discuss  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:09 PM   #185 
              - Since you made the assertion that their are core differnces, it is up to you to back it up.  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 04:46 PM   #195 
                 - I Don't Expect You'll Receive a Reply. And You Can Add Equality To Your List.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 10:07 PM   #220 
  - Bingo!  tnlefty   Apr-11-10 09:00 PM   #215 
  - You mean adopt their platform?  Marr   Apr-11-10 02:22 PM   #137 
  - Sooo beat me to it.  jgraz   Apr-11-10 02:38 PM   #143 
  - Careful, pointing out the obvious around here  Moochy   Apr-11-10 02:41 PM   #145 
     - That's because most people don't understand what "argumentum ad hominem" means  jgraz   Apr-11-10 02:44 PM   #146 
  - The Green's party has had little to no electoral success  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:42 PM   #161 
     - Besides there's no money to be had advocating for good policy!  Moochy   Apr-11-10 03:53 PM   #165 
     - Are you really trying to sell the idea that politicians enter politics to make money?  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:00 PM   #177 
     - Not at all  Moochy   Apr-11-10 04:05 PM   #179 
        - A pragmatic progressive deals with that issue with campaign finance reform  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:07 PM   #181 
           - It appears that they've lost sight of the meaning of pragmatism...  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 04:36 PM   #194 
     - +1  The Gunslinger   Apr-11-10 08:35 PM   #213 
     - So are they irrelevant, or do they swing elections?  Marr   Apr-11-10 03:53 PM   #166 
        - just because a party is lacking in popular support doesn't mean they can't be destructive  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:59 PM   #174 
           - Then they should be courted.  Marr   Apr-11-10 04:09 PM   #184 
              - This isn't a coalition style government, as such there is little to no point  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:11 PM   #187 
                 - It doesn't seem as if you've ever met, let alone spoken with, a Green.  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 04:18 PM   #189 
                 - Many Republicans are former Dems and so I see little difference  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 05:21 PM   #201 
                    - I used to think your knowledge of politics was minimal.  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 08:18 PM   #209 
                 - But you like bipartisan, "moderate" Democrats?  Marr   Apr-11-10 07:35 PM   #206 
  - Until the U.S. adopts proportional representation, the Greens are counterproductive.  backscatter712   Apr-11-10 02:39 PM   #144 
  - People Are Going To Vote For Who They Want To Vote For.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 03:03 PM   #148 
     - That's not always true. Many progressives are pragmatic progressives  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:20 PM   #153 
        - Those Aren't Progressives. Those Are Sheep.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 03:24 PM   #155 
        - Only a head in the clouds idealist with little appreciation of the real world would say that  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:39 PM   #158 
           - And Only a DLC Prole Would Use Scare Tactics To Bully People Into Voting For the Same Old Shit  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 03:41 PM   #160 
              - I don't know I think calling people sheep is pretty much a bullying tactic  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:44 PM   #162 
                 - LOL. I'll Pay You the Compliment Of Assuming You Don't Believe the Shit You're Saying.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 09:44 PM   #218 
        - Many, but not all, and the ranks of the "pragmatic" seems to be diminishing.  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 03:38 PM   #157 
        - We better hope you are wrong, because the pragmatics are the ONLY ones  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:41 PM   #159 
           - Then the pragmatic thing to do would be...  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 03:48 PM   #164 
              - The Greens are not the Dems and the Greens are guilty of attacks on the Dems  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:54 PM   #167 
                 - In general, your entire premise is false.  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 04:08 PM   #183 
                    - The facts say otherwise  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:25 PM   #191 
                       - Hey at least you are reading their platform  Moochy   Apr-11-10 04:28 PM   #193 
                       - Thanks for that. It reminded me that the Democrats were not only complicit  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 04:53 PM   #197 
                       - Did you ever stop to ask yourself...  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 08:52 PM   #214 
                          - "You Put a Red Korean Over a White American, Which Makes You Pretty Pinko"  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 10:11 PM   #221 
                             - Hmmph. I'll bet you subscribe to Reader's Digest, doncha?  Zenlitened   Apr-11-10 10:28 PM   #224 
        - Translation:  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 03:56 PM   #169 
           - That wasn't a translation, that was a distortion  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:56 PM   #171 
  - I guess it depends on priorities.  LWolf   Apr-11-10 03:14 PM   #151 
  - So voters are more pragmatic and consider the effectiveness of their votes  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:21 PM   #154 
     - Effectiveness also depends on priorities.  LWolf   Apr-11-10 06:24 PM   #204 
  - If the democratic party stopped pandering to the right there would be  Warren Stupidity   Apr-11-10 03:46 PM   #163 
  - I doubt it, there will always be disruptive 3rd parties  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 03:55 PM   #168 
  - I doubt that. Because when the Dem Party moves leftward, the squishy, self-styled "centrists"...  ClassWarrior   Apr-11-10 03:59 PM   #175 
  - Like what happened in the 70s?  NJmaverick   Apr-11-10 04:17 PM   #188 
  - "Disruptive"? In what way? Hacking voting machines and fraudulently manipulating  salguine   Apr-11-10 07:51 PM   #207 
     - :D  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-12-10 10:46 AM   #227 
  - + 1,000,000 nt  LWolf   Apr-11-10 06:24 PM   #205 
  - I didn't know the Democratic Party was on the left these days.  The Gunslinger   Apr-11-10 04:20 PM   #190 
  - If the Democrats weren't racing so fast to the right, you might have a point.  Stinky The Clown   Apr-11-10 04:27 PM   #192 
  - After Florida 2000, the Greens are done...  hayu_lol   Apr-11-10 04:46 PM   #196 
     - Mayor of SF?  Moochy   Apr-11-10 04:54 PM   #198 
     - 300,000 Dems voted for Bush in Florida. 10-11 mil Dems nationwide voted for Bush.  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 04:55 PM   #199 
     - There are currently 150 Green Party office holders in the U.S.  Luminous Animal   Apr-11-10 05:01 PM   #200 
        - I had no idea. Thanks for that information. nt  laughingliberal   Apr-11-10 08:28 PM   #211 
  - If only! Imagine if there were 200 Green Amendments to the Health Care Bill.  Puregonzo1188   Apr-11-10 06:07 PM   #203 
  - What a great point! I'm betting the Greens would love it if the Democrats treated them the same as  laughingliberal   Apr-11-10 08:31 PM   #212 
     - That Would, In Fact, Be AWESOME. And Not As Far Away As You Might Think.  Toasterlad   Apr-11-10 10:13 PM   #222 
  - what a stupid ass post  G_j   Apr-11-10 11:05 PM   #226 
  - This thread is disgusting.  Maat   Apr-12-10 10:48 AM   #228 
  - And that's precisely the m.o. of too many conservative dems & mods  Echo In Light   Apr-12-10 11:45 AM   #231 
     - You're correct (n/t).  Maat   Apr-12-10 11:55 AM   #233 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-10 10:52 AM   #229 
  - ,  Moochy   Apr-12-10 09:09 PM   #234 
  - they are in competition because the Greens often attack dems and work against dems more than the GOP  WI_DEM   Apr-12-10 11:43 AM   #230 
 

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