| 128. Your candidate needs to lose, so mine can win. |
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Yup, you hit the nail on the head Skinner. And to all those that have a thin skin, better not read too much GD for the next year, try the Lounge. It will be easier on your 'outrage' level. Trust me on this.
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| -The Democratic Presidential Primary on DU: The Lower Your Expectations, the Happier You Will Be. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:23 PM |
#0 |
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Sorry, David. That's a longwinded cop-out. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:25 PM |
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Old Crusoe, again you're going soft on terror, like all your DINO ilk, & fluorodating our water, too |
Bucky |
May-04-07 07:45 PM |
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I know feel Edwards is being unfairly picked on. He's not. |
Clarkie1 |
May-04-07 08:18 PM |
#166 |
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Thanks for the advice. |
lpbk2713 |
May-03-07 12:26 PM |
#2 |
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First. You guys are great |
Robbien |
May-03-07 12:28 PM |
#3 |
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We are going to do that. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:29 PM |
#5 |
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Why resist? |
sandnsea |
May-03-07 12:31 PM |
#10 |
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It is our feeling that segregating it has a tendency to intensify it. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:38 PM |
#15 |
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Ah, well that's possible |
sandnsea |
May-03-07 01:15 PM |
#38 |
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I hope it's not put into GD:Politics |
hfojvt |
May-03-07 03:43 PM |
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I like that suggestion, but would personally recommend that it be |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 03:55 PM |
#93 |
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I'm on board my good friend |
cboy4 |
May-03-07 04:20 PM |
#97 |
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-- -- hey there. Some true blue steel and gumption from the Golden State. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 04:24 PM |
#100 |
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perhaps the lower expectations should have been there from the start |
hfojvt |
May-03-07 04:21 PM |
#98 |
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I can't make an executive decision in your behalf but I want to, |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 04:28 PM |
#101 |
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Old Crusoe, I hear you with the "Slam and Slime" forum. Really that crowd deserves its own space. |
chimpymustgo |
May-03-07 05:36 PM |
#106 |
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I had this great government teacher in high school. He asked us to |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 06:44 PM |
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Funny what HIGHER expectations can evoke. Sounds like a stimulating, enlightening class |
chimpymustgo |
May-03-07 08:10 PM |
#120 |
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...and use that as a beginning point. Yes. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:26 PM |
#124 |
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How 'bout we call it Primary Wars? |
rosesaylavee |
May-03-07 05:46 PM |
#107 |
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That's when I joined, too |
SharonRB |
May-03-07 09:37 PM |
#133 |
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Wooo hoo. |
rosesaylavee |
May-03-07 10:32 PM |
#134 |
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It is. That's why GD:P was broken off from GD and it actually got worse than GD. |
blondeatlast |
May-04-07 07:54 AM |
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I like this idea too |
LSK |
May-03-07 11:36 PM |
#139 |
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Who decides what is character assasination and what is valid questioning? |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-04-07 11:10 AM |
#157 |
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You're allowed to miss points, but it makes your position less effective. |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:44 PM |
#159 |
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Second |
sandnsea |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#6 |
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It's deja vu all over again! |
Old and In the Way |
May-03-07 12:28 PM |
#4 |
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Well said, Skinner |
WesDem |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#7 |
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The circus has come to town and "gotcha" politics is in the center ring. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#8 |
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Heh, I'll kick that. - n/t |
porphyrian |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#9 |
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Bravo!!! |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 12:33 PM |
#11 |
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I enjoyed that. |
Kali |
May-03-07 12:33 PM |
#12 |
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"you need to seriously modify your expectations" |
IA_Seth |
May-03-07 12:34 PM |
#13 |
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As long as you're sanctioning "ugly," then, I guess the anti-Israeli |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:36 PM |
#14 |
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Not the way you put it |
bonito |
May-03-07 12:48 PM |
#22 |
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The admins are mighty swift when they delete an anti-Israel post, but |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:50 PM |
#23 |
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This argument is lame. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:56 PM |
#27 |
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And a great deal more swiftly than a non-ethnic attack agains a Democrat, |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:58 PM |
#28 |
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i think you need to re-read the op. |
mopinko |
May-03-07 01:06 PM |
#33 |
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Actually, I read OPs on the boards better than some folks read their |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:08 PM |
#35 |
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LOL! |
Behind the Aegis |
May-03-07 01:14 PM |
#37 |
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I think the original poster knows exactly what I mean. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:15 PM |
#39 |
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It appears, from his response, you were not clear. |
Behind the Aegis |
May-03-07 01:21 PM |
#46 |
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The OP's ethnic heritage and mine have common crosspaths in |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:24 PM |
#50 |
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Thanks, as always! |
Beaverhausen |
May-03-07 12:39 PM |
#16 |
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Also good to remind that criticizing candidates DURING the primary is fair game, BUT, |
blm |
May-03-07 12:41 PM |
#17 |
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Are you trying to start a FLAME WAR with this thread? |
IChing |
May-03-07 12:44 PM |
#18 |
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And it's my least favorite kind of flame war, too. |
SmokingJacket |
May-03-07 12:45 PM |
#19 |
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Don't forget, we have our own craft group here on DU! |
Longhorn |
May-03-07 12:47 PM |
#21 |
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Really?? |
SmokingJacket |
May-03-07 12:55 PM |
#25 |
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Now all we need is a pro-Democratic one. That would be great. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:59 PM |
#29 |
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I don't understand why it bothers you that we criticize the candidates. |
merh |
May-03-07 02:25 PM |
#76 |
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With the OP's official endorsement today of lowered expectations, |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:38 PM |
#79 |
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Yeah, forgive me for not being part of the "You're eithe with us or Against us" Crowd |
merh |
May-03-07 04:58 PM |
#103 |
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If it was my call, merh, you're forgiven for everything you've ever done on this |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 05:10 PM |
#105 |
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I want our party to win, but I don't want someone to win that is |
merh |
May-03-07 07:29 PM |
#118 |
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Well, we're going to whomp 'em a good one in November 08. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:15 PM |
#121 |
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watch - I want a hand in the whomping |
merh |
May-03-07 08:25 PM |
#123 |
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Good points, well written, as always. Thanks! |
Longhorn |
May-03-07 12:45 PM |
#20 |
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Thank you, Skinner |
Carolina |
May-03-07 12:51 PM |
#24 |
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Hey, I tried taking a break |
juajen |
May-03-07 12:55 PM |
#26 |
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Skinner, my attitude is: the worst Democrat in the current crop. . . |
DinahMoeHum |
May-03-07 01:03 PM |
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I think we'll all vote for a Democrat, regardless. |
zanne |
May-03-07 01:07 PM |
#34 |
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I have a neighbor who wishes Howell Heflin had lived to be president. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:09 PM |
#36 |
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I'm still a Pat Paulsen supporter |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 01:49 PM |
#54 |
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Dead or not, Paulsen was a pretty ok guy. I met him once in Cleveland. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:50 PM |
#55 |
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I never had the privilege, but that was my impression |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 03:00 PM |
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Well, make sure it isn't wisdom gained for no purpose. I mean, in |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 03:04 PM |
#84 |
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Dead is OK. |
zanne |
May-04-07 07:50 AM |
#148 |
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Your post doesn't address the fundamental unfairness exhibited almost |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:04 PM |
#31 |
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(Why do you hang out at a "fundamentally unfair" board?) |
annabanana |
May-03-07 02:03 PM |
#62 |
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One registers or one does not. If the administrator is endorsing |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:26 PM |
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I think you make a good point Old Crusoe. |
mzmolly |
May-03-07 04:00 PM |
#95 |
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Hello, mzmolly, and thank you. I continue to read what you have |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 05:07 PM |
#104 |
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He wasn't "sanctioning blatant attacks"... |
InvisibleTouch |
May-04-07 09:50 AM |
#153 |
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The OP offers a generic solution to a rampant problem on his own site. |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:47 PM |
#160 |
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Lower your expectation, the happier you will be... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
May-03-07 01:04 PM |
#32 |
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My mother used to say..... |
zanne |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#40 |
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My mother used to say..... |
zanne |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#42 |
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Okay, my students (who are taking a quiz right now) must be wondering why I'm grinning! |
Longhorn |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#43 |
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Dripping Springs, Texas? |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
May-03-07 01:23 PM |
#49 |
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when are you going to direct candidate discussions into its own forum |
KG |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#41 |
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And we keep lowering expectations...until .. |
madfloridian |
May-03-07 01:20 PM |
#44 |
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Yes. But when it's officially sanctioned by the admins, then I guess it |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:22 PM |
#47 |
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It's at least a week old by my estimates |
ZombyWoof |
May-03-07 01:20 PM |
#45 |
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Lower my expectations - good advice! |
iamahaingttta |
May-03-07 01:23 PM |
#48 |
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Just be glad you're not a Howell Heflin Democrat. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:25 PM |
#51 |
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LOL. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:00 PM |
#59 |
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Excellent photo. LOL! |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:02 PM |
#61 |
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The people in that craft group can probably help you knit one |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:04 PM |
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LOL!. They look damned capable, at that. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:06 PM |
#66 |
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Just don't go all Barry Manilow on me. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:10 PM |
#69 |
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Rest easy. As we speak, I've arranged for heartless thugs to |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:13 PM |
#71 |
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Do not trifle with the Big Barry, por favor |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 03:12 PM |
#86 |
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Barry Manilow and Jimi Hendrix in one post. Now dammit, that's impressive. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 03:22 PM |
#88 |
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You got it.! (Although I've always preferred "Foxy Lady") |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 06:54 PM |
#117 |
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On tv the other night, I saw two guys make crossbows out of paper, which |
DemBones DemBones |
May-03-07 11:27 PM |
#138 |
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Paper crossbows? Wow. I've never heard of that. |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:16 AM |
#143 |
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When the dust settled on all our passionate bantering.... |
RiverStone |
May-03-07 01:25 PM |
#52 |
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It'd be nice if .... |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 01:29 PM |
#53 |
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Hear hear! Well said and lots of god advice. n/t |
John Q. Citizen |
May-03-07 01:52 PM |
#56 |
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"probably won't satisfy a majority of people here" |
annabanana |
May-03-07 01:56 PM |
#57 |
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I predict I'll be in that group! |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 02:10 PM |
#70 |
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Thanks, Skinner.. I appreciate everything you all do here. |
solara |
May-03-07 01:57 PM |
#58 |
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I would like to see the admins extend an honorary DU registration to |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:00 PM |
#60 |
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HA! I'm already a step ahead of you! Just bought my brand spankin' new SUPER INDUSTRIAL |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-03-07 02:03 PM |
#63 |
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This? |
annabanana |
May-03-07 02:08 PM |
#67 |
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YEPPERS! Sears Roebuck SPECIAL! Guaranteed for LIFE or your money back! |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-03-07 02:18 PM |
#75 |
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Can someone please give me a hand here? |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:05 PM |
#65 |
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here. . . . |
annabanana |
May-03-07 02:09 PM |
#68 |
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And here. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:14 PM |
#72 |
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I don't get the part about the tractor. What's the deal with that? |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:15 PM |
#73 |
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Any chance we'll be seeing any DU member vs member formal debates? |
WakingLife |
May-03-07 02:18 PM |
#74 |
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Nice idea, the formal debate thing. |
avrdream |
May-03-07 02:54 PM |
#82 |
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I'm with you Skinner 100%. Best of luck nt |
IronLionZion |
May-03-07 02:28 PM |
#78 |
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expect the worst and never be disappointed, |
madokie |
May-03-07 02:48 PM |
#80 |
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Sounds like you're covered for life, then, madokie. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:52 PM |
#81 |
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Herding cats is never easy under the best of circumstances. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-03-07 03:07 PM |
#85 |
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Good links from good sources...mandatory. |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 03:14 PM |
#87 |
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Oh, yes, I definitely agree. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-03-07 03:54 PM |
#92 |
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Gotcha |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 06:15 PM |
#112 |
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I have found the ignore and hide a thread functions very |
Cleita |
May-03-07 03:22 PM |
#89 |
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I try to avoid Ignore / Hide |
unc70 |
May-03-07 04:42 PM |
#102 |
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One of the things I like most about this site |
bling bling |
May-03-07 03:41 PM |
#90 |
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Well! I too am shocked, alarmed and dismayed, plus 'you name it' |
Jersey Devil |
May-03-07 03:59 PM |
#94 |
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I'm already getting my flame-retardant suit ready. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-03-07 04:11 PM |
#96 |
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Expectation = "premeditated resentment" |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 04:23 PM |
#99 |
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Does neatness count? n/t |
H2O Man |
May-03-07 05:47 PM |
#108 |
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I hope sew. |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 08:30 PM |
#127 |
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Thanks for all that you and the other admins do here! |
rosesaylavee |
May-03-07 05:53 PM |
#109 |
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The mods can't police everything. |
pa28 |
May-03-07 06:05 PM |
#110 |
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Yes. That actually sets the bar relatively, but reasonably low. Lose the Republican hit jobs. |
chimpymustgo |
May-03-07 08:22 PM |
#122 |
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Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
crispini |
May-03-07 06:11 PM |
#111 |
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I chill during primary season because I will vote for a slice of bologna if it's a D... |
rosebud57 |
May-03-07 06:31 PM |
#113 |
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That pretty much sums up whom I will vote for too, any Democrat on the ticket. |
Cleita |
May-03-07 06:41 PM |
#114 |
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I find Atrios' Axioms For Primary Season sometimes useful in this context.... |
BlooInBloo |
May-03-07 06:49 PM |
#116 |
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Whew... |
8_year_nightmare |
May-03-07 07:32 PM |
#119 |
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The late Gilda Radner will be making a cameo appearance on DU |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:28 PM |
#125 |
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Hiya, Old Crusoe! |
8_year_nightmare |
May-04-07 07:38 AM |
#146 |
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Couldn't be better. The Wells Fargo wagon is always just around the corner! |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:49 PM |
#161 |
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Lower expectations. Wasn't that a Sat. Night Live skit? Funny too! |
lonestarnot |
May-03-07 08:29 PM |
#126 |
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So glad there are Emily Latella fans here. |
8_year_nightmare |
May-04-07 07:44 AM |
#147 |
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Your candidate needs to lose, so mine can win. |
Rex |
May-03-07 08:31 PM |
#128 |
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If I recall, Bush is the master of low expectations. |
Everybody |
May-03-07 08:34 PM |
#129 |
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On the near-most penny there is engraved the image of the last |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:52 PM |
#130 |
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I have been lowering my expectations all day. |
madfloridian |
May-03-07 11:11 PM |
#137 |
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It could be that there's a discipline to it, like how the Buddhists |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 07:12 PM |
#163 |
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Our Champion will be forged in fire! |
bvar22 |
May-03-07 08:53 PM |
#131 |
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There's the DU spirit! |
WesDem |
May-04-07 11:51 AM |
#158 |
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Thanks, Skinner |
SharonRB |
May-03-07 09:18 PM |
#132 |
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You really should make this a sticky post |
Forkboy |
May-03-07 10:59 PM |
#135 |
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Perhaps we can take a step back and praise our energy in this! |
calipendence |
May-03-07 11:05 PM |
#136 |
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"The Lower Your Expectations, The Happier You Will Be" |
Skip Intro |
May-03-07 11:38 PM |
#140 |
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Wait |
tavalon |
May-04-07 03:41 AM |
#141 |
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can't get any lower |
radfringe |
May-04-07 03:44 AM |
#142 |
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Good advice |
Oeditpus Rex |
May-04-07 04:20 AM |
#144 |
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Well, since the powerbrokers really chose the president |
RestoreGore |
May-04-07 05:43 AM |
#145 |
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On the firing line: |
westerebus |
May-04-07 08:48 AM |
#150 |
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A good example of why We Love You.... |
Ojai Person |
May-04-07 09:25 AM |
#151 |
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That's a good reminder and a much-needed reality check. |
InvisibleTouch |
May-04-07 09:35 AM |
#152 |
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Please try to contain the ugliness at least |
carolinayellowdog |
May-04-07 09:57 AM |
#154 |
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I guess I just don't get it |
WesDem |
May-04-07 11:00 AM |
#156 |
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I don't get it, either. |
AngryOldDem |
May-04-07 06:10 PM |
#162 |
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I agree with all of that, especially on the name-calling and flames |
WesDem |
May-04-07 07:41 PM |
#164 |
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Not the members but the TOPICS that cause most dissension |
carolinayellowdog |
May-05-07 06:28 AM |
#167 |
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GDP was founded as the forum for the topic of primaries |
WesDem |
May-05-07 07:43 AM |
#168 |
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I've read your original post again now |
WesDem |
May-05-07 08:12 AM |
#169 |
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the 'alert' key is your friend |
AZDemDist6 |
May-04-07 10:28 AM |
#155 |