| 103. Yeah, forgive me for not being part of the "You're eithe with us or Against us" Crowd |
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Funny thing about it, it's just human nature.
BTW - Fred Thompson said he was getting the flack from repugs digging into his past and trying to find dirt.
Dems aren't alone on this and to think they are or it is beneath the party is for the birds.
If the candidates can't hold up to our scrutiny then they don't belong in the race cause the repugs are far worse.
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| -The Democratic Presidential Primary on DU: The Lower Your Expectations, the Happier You Will Be. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:23 PM |
#0 |
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Sorry, David. That's a longwinded cop-out. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:25 PM |
#1 |
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Old Crusoe, again you're going soft on terror, like all your DINO ilk, & fluorodating our water, too |
Bucky |
May-04-07 07:45 PM |
#165 |
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I know feel Edwards is being unfairly picked on. He's not. |
Clarkie1 |
May-04-07 08:18 PM |
#166 |
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Thanks for the advice. |
lpbk2713 |
May-03-07 12:26 PM |
#2 |
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First. You guys are great |
Robbien |
May-03-07 12:28 PM |
#3 |
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We are going to do that. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:29 PM |
#5 |
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Why resist? |
sandnsea |
May-03-07 12:31 PM |
#10 |
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It is our feeling that segregating it has a tendency to intensify it. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:38 PM |
#15 |
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Ah, well that's possible |
sandnsea |
May-03-07 01:15 PM |
#38 |
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I hope it's not put into GD:Politics |
hfojvt |
May-03-07 03:43 PM |
#91 |
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I like that suggestion, but would personally recommend that it be |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 03:55 PM |
#93 |
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I'm on board my good friend |
cboy4 |
May-03-07 04:20 PM |
#97 |
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-- -- hey there. Some true blue steel and gumption from the Golden State. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 04:24 PM |
#100 |
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perhaps the lower expectations should have been there from the start |
hfojvt |
May-03-07 04:21 PM |
#98 |
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I can't make an executive decision in your behalf but I want to, |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 04:28 PM |
#101 |
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Old Crusoe, I hear you with the "Slam and Slime" forum. Really that crowd deserves its own space. |
chimpymustgo |
May-03-07 05:36 PM |
#106 |
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I had this great government teacher in high school. He asked us to |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 06:44 PM |
#115 |
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Funny what HIGHER expectations can evoke. Sounds like a stimulating, enlightening class |
chimpymustgo |
May-03-07 08:10 PM |
#120 |
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...and use that as a beginning point. Yes. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:26 PM |
#124 |
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How 'bout we call it Primary Wars? |
rosesaylavee |
May-03-07 05:46 PM |
#107 |
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That's when I joined, too |
SharonRB |
May-03-07 09:37 PM |
#133 |
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Wooo hoo. |
rosesaylavee |
May-03-07 10:32 PM |
#134 |
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It is. That's why GD:P was broken off from GD and it actually got worse than GD. |
blondeatlast |
May-04-07 07:54 AM |
#149 |
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I like this idea too |
LSK |
May-03-07 11:36 PM |
#139 |
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Who decides what is character assasination and what is valid questioning? |
Tom Rinaldo |
May-04-07 11:10 AM |
#157 |
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You're allowed to miss points, but it makes your position less effective. |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:44 PM |
#159 |
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Second |
sandnsea |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#6 |
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It's deja vu all over again! |
Old and In the Way |
May-03-07 12:28 PM |
#4 |
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Well said, Skinner |
WesDem |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#7 |
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The circus has come to town and "gotcha" politics is in the center ring. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#8 |
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Heh, I'll kick that. - n/t |
porphyrian |
May-03-07 12:30 PM |
#9 |
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Bravo!!! |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 12:33 PM |
#11 |
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I enjoyed that. |
Kali |
May-03-07 12:33 PM |
#12 |
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"you need to seriously modify your expectations" |
IA_Seth |
May-03-07 12:34 PM |
#13 |
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As long as you're sanctioning "ugly," then, I guess the anti-Israeli |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:36 PM |
#14 |
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Not the way you put it |
bonito |
May-03-07 12:48 PM |
#22 |
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The admins are mighty swift when they delete an anti-Israel post, but |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:50 PM |
#23 |
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This argument is lame. |
Skinner |
May-03-07 12:56 PM |
#27 |
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And a great deal more swiftly than a non-ethnic attack agains a Democrat, |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:58 PM |
#28 |
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i think you need to re-read the op. |
mopinko |
May-03-07 01:06 PM |
#33 |
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Actually, I read OPs on the boards better than some folks read their |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:08 PM |
#35 |
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LOL! |
Behind the Aegis |
May-03-07 01:14 PM |
#37 |
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I think the original poster knows exactly what I mean. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:15 PM |
#39 |
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It appears, from his response, you were not clear. |
Behind the Aegis |
May-03-07 01:21 PM |
#46 |
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The OP's ethnic heritage and mine have common crosspaths in |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:24 PM |
#50 |
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Thanks, as always! |
Beaverhausen |
May-03-07 12:39 PM |
#16 |
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Also good to remind that criticizing candidates DURING the primary is fair game, BUT, |
blm |
May-03-07 12:41 PM |
#17 |
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Are you trying to start a FLAME WAR with this thread? |
IChing |
May-03-07 12:44 PM |
#18 |
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And it's my least favorite kind of flame war, too. |
SmokingJacket |
May-03-07 12:45 PM |
#19 |
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Don't forget, we have our own craft group here on DU! |
Longhorn |
May-03-07 12:47 PM |
#21 |
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Really?? |
SmokingJacket |
May-03-07 12:55 PM |
#25 |
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Now all we need is a pro-Democratic one. That would be great. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 12:59 PM |
#29 |
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I don't understand why it bothers you that we criticize the candidates. |
merh |
May-03-07 02:25 PM |
#76 |
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With the OP's official endorsement today of lowered expectations, |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:38 PM |
#79 |
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Yeah, forgive me for not being part of the "You're eithe with us or Against us" Crowd |
merh |
May-03-07 04:58 PM |
#103 |
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If it was my call, merh, you're forgiven for everything you've ever done on this |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 05:10 PM |
#105 |
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I want our party to win, but I don't want someone to win that is |
merh |
May-03-07 07:29 PM |
#118 |
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Well, we're going to whomp 'em a good one in November 08. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:15 PM |
#121 |
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watch - I want a hand in the whomping |
merh |
May-03-07 08:25 PM |
#123 |
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Good points, well written, as always. Thanks! |
Longhorn |
May-03-07 12:45 PM |
#20 |
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Thank you, Skinner |
Carolina |
May-03-07 12:51 PM |
#24 |
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Hey, I tried taking a break |
juajen |
May-03-07 12:55 PM |
#26 |
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Skinner, my attitude is: the worst Democrat in the current crop. . . |
DinahMoeHum |
May-03-07 01:03 PM |
#30 |
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I think we'll all vote for a Democrat, regardless. |
zanne |
May-03-07 01:07 PM |
#34 |
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I have a neighbor who wishes Howell Heflin had lived to be president. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:09 PM |
#36 |
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I'm still a Pat Paulsen supporter |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 01:49 PM |
#54 |
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Dead or not, Paulsen was a pretty ok guy. I met him once in Cleveland. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:50 PM |
#55 |
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I never had the privilege, but that was my impression |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 03:00 PM |
#83 |
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Well, make sure it isn't wisdom gained for no purpose. I mean, in |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 03:04 PM |
#84 |
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Dead is OK. |
zanne |
May-04-07 07:50 AM |
#148 |
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Your post doesn't address the fundamental unfairness exhibited almost |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:04 PM |
#31 |
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(Why do you hang out at a "fundamentally unfair" board?) |
annabanana |
May-03-07 02:03 PM |
#62 |
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One registers or one does not. If the administrator is endorsing |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:26 PM |
#77 |
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I think you make a good point Old Crusoe. |
mzmolly |
May-03-07 04:00 PM |
#95 |
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Hello, mzmolly, and thank you. I continue to read what you have |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 05:07 PM |
#104 |
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He wasn't "sanctioning blatant attacks"... |
InvisibleTouch |
May-04-07 09:50 AM |
#153 |
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The OP offers a generic solution to a rampant problem on his own site. |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:47 PM |
#160 |
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Lower your expectation, the happier you will be... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
May-03-07 01:04 PM |
#32 |
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My mother used to say..... |
zanne |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#40 |
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My mother used to say..... |
zanne |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#42 |
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Okay, my students (who are taking a quiz right now) must be wondering why I'm grinning! |
Longhorn |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#43 |
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Dripping Springs, Texas? |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
May-03-07 01:23 PM |
#49 |
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when are you going to direct candidate discussions into its own forum |
KG |
May-03-07 01:17 PM |
#41 |
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And we keep lowering expectations...until .. |
madfloridian |
May-03-07 01:20 PM |
#44 |
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Yes. But when it's officially sanctioned by the admins, then I guess it |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:22 PM |
#47 |
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It's at least a week old by my estimates |
ZombyWoof |
May-03-07 01:20 PM |
#45 |
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Lower my expectations - good advice! |
iamahaingttta |
May-03-07 01:23 PM |
#48 |
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Just be glad you're not a Howell Heflin Democrat. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 01:25 PM |
#51 |
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LOL. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:00 PM |
#59 |
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Excellent photo. LOL! |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:02 PM |
#61 |
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The people in that craft group can probably help you knit one |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:04 PM |
#64 |
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LOL!. They look damned capable, at that. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:06 PM |
#66 |
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Just don't go all Barry Manilow on me. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:10 PM |
#69 |
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Rest easy. As we speak, I've arranged for heartless thugs to |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:13 PM |
#71 |
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Do not trifle with the Big Barry, por favor |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 03:12 PM |
#86 |
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Barry Manilow and Jimi Hendrix in one post. Now dammit, that's impressive. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 03:22 PM |
#88 |
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You got it.! (Although I've always preferred "Foxy Lady") |
Buns_of_Fire |
May-03-07 06:54 PM |
#117 |
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On tv the other night, I saw two guys make crossbows out of paper, which |
DemBones DemBones |
May-03-07 11:27 PM |
#138 |
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Paper crossbows? Wow. I've never heard of that. |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:16 AM |
#143 |
| -
When the dust settled on all our passionate bantering.... |
RiverStone |
May-03-07 01:25 PM |
#52 |
| -
It'd be nice if .... |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 01:29 PM |
#53 |
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Hear hear! Well said and lots of god advice. n/t |
John Q. Citizen |
May-03-07 01:52 PM |
#56 |
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"probably won't satisfy a majority of people here" |
annabanana |
May-03-07 01:56 PM |
#57 |
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I predict I'll be in that group! |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 02:10 PM |
#70 |
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Thanks, Skinner.. I appreciate everything you all do here. |
solara |
May-03-07 01:57 PM |
#58 |
| -
I would like to see the admins extend an honorary DU registration to |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:00 PM |
#60 |
| -
HA! I'm already a step ahead of you! Just bought my brand spankin' new SUPER INDUSTRIAL |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-03-07 02:03 PM |
#63 |
| -
This? |
annabanana |
May-03-07 02:08 PM |
#67 |
| -
YEPPERS! Sears Roebuck SPECIAL! Guaranteed for LIFE or your money back! |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-03-07 02:18 PM |
#75 |
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Can someone please give me a hand here? |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:05 PM |
#65 |
| -
here. . . . |
annabanana |
May-03-07 02:09 PM |
#68 |
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And here. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-03-07 02:14 PM |
#72 |
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I don't get the part about the tractor. What's the deal with that? |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:15 PM |
#73 |
| -
Any chance we'll be seeing any DU member vs member formal debates? |
WakingLife |
May-03-07 02:18 PM |
#74 |
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Nice idea, the formal debate thing. |
avrdream |
May-03-07 02:54 PM |
#82 |
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I'm with you Skinner 100%. Best of luck nt |
IronLionZion |
May-03-07 02:28 PM |
#78 |
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expect the worst and never be disappointed, |
madokie |
May-03-07 02:48 PM |
#80 |
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Sounds like you're covered for life, then, madokie. |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 02:52 PM |
#81 |
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Herding cats is never easy under the best of circumstances. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-03-07 03:07 PM |
#85 |
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Good links from good sources...mandatory. |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 03:14 PM |
#87 |
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Oh, yes, I definitely agree. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-03-07 03:54 PM |
#92 |
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Gotcha |
seasonedblue |
May-03-07 06:15 PM |
#112 |
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I have found the ignore and hide a thread functions very |
Cleita |
May-03-07 03:22 PM |
#89 |
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I try to avoid Ignore / Hide |
unc70 |
May-03-07 04:42 PM |
#102 |
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One of the things I like most about this site |
bling bling |
May-03-07 03:41 PM |
#90 |
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Well! I too am shocked, alarmed and dismayed, plus 'you name it' |
Jersey Devil |
May-03-07 03:59 PM |
#94 |
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I'm already getting my flame-retardant suit ready. |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-03-07 04:11 PM |
#96 |
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Expectation = "premeditated resentment" |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 04:23 PM |
#99 |
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Does neatness count? n/t |
H2O Man |
May-03-07 05:47 PM |
#108 |
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I hope sew. |
TahitiNut |
May-03-07 08:30 PM |
#127 |
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Thanks for all that you and the other admins do here! |
rosesaylavee |
May-03-07 05:53 PM |
#109 |
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The mods can't police everything. |
pa28 |
May-03-07 06:05 PM |
#110 |
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Yes. That actually sets the bar relatively, but reasonably low. Lose the Republican hit jobs. |
chimpymustgo |
May-03-07 08:22 PM |
#122 |
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Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
crispini |
May-03-07 06:11 PM |
#111 |
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I chill during primary season because I will vote for a slice of bologna if it's a D... |
rosebud57 |
May-03-07 06:31 PM |
#113 |
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That pretty much sums up whom I will vote for too, any Democrat on the ticket. |
Cleita |
May-03-07 06:41 PM |
#114 |
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I find Atrios' Axioms For Primary Season sometimes useful in this context.... |
BlooInBloo |
May-03-07 06:49 PM |
#116 |
| -
Whew... |
8_year_nightmare |
May-03-07 07:32 PM |
#119 |
| -
The late Gilda Radner will be making a cameo appearance on DU |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:28 PM |
#125 |
| -
Hiya, Old Crusoe! |
8_year_nightmare |
May-04-07 07:38 AM |
#146 |
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Couldn't be better. The Wells Fargo wagon is always just around the corner! |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 04:49 PM |
#161 |
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Lower expectations. Wasn't that a Sat. Night Live skit? Funny too! |
lonestarnot |
May-03-07 08:29 PM |
#126 |
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So glad there are Emily Latella fans here. |
8_year_nightmare |
May-04-07 07:44 AM |
#147 |
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Your candidate needs to lose, so mine can win. |
Rex |
May-03-07 08:31 PM |
#128 |
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If I recall, Bush is the master of low expectations. |
Everybody |
May-03-07 08:34 PM |
#129 |
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On the near-most penny there is engraved the image of the last |
Old Crusoe |
May-03-07 08:52 PM |
#130 |
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I have been lowering my expectations all day. |
madfloridian |
May-03-07 11:11 PM |
#137 |
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It could be that there's a discipline to it, like how the Buddhists |
Old Crusoe |
May-04-07 07:12 PM |
#163 |
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Our Champion will be forged in fire! |
bvar22 |
May-03-07 08:53 PM |
#131 |
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There's the DU spirit! |
WesDem |
May-04-07 11:51 AM |
#158 |
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Thanks, Skinner |
SharonRB |
May-03-07 09:18 PM |
#132 |
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You really should make this a sticky post |
Forkboy |
May-03-07 10:59 PM |
#135 |
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Perhaps we can take a step back and praise our energy in this! |
calipendence |
May-03-07 11:05 PM |
#136 |
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"The Lower Your Expectations, The Happier You Will Be" |
Skip Intro |
May-03-07 11:38 PM |
#140 |
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Wait |
tavalon |
May-04-07 03:41 AM |
#141 |
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can't get any lower |
radfringe |
May-04-07 03:44 AM |
#142 |
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Good advice |
Oeditpus Rex |
May-04-07 04:20 AM |
#144 |
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Well, since the powerbrokers really chose the president |
RestoreGore |
May-04-07 05:43 AM |
#145 |
| -
On the firing line: |
westerebus |
May-04-07 08:48 AM |
#150 |
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A good example of why We Love You.... |
Ojai Person |
May-04-07 09:25 AM |
#151 |
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That's a good reminder and a much-needed reality check. |
InvisibleTouch |
May-04-07 09:35 AM |
#152 |
| -
Please try to contain the ugliness at least |
carolinayellowdog |
May-04-07 09:57 AM |
#154 |
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I guess I just don't get it |
WesDem |
May-04-07 11:00 AM |
#156 |
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I don't get it, either. |
AngryOldDem |
May-04-07 06:10 PM |
#162 |
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I agree with all of that, especially on the name-calling and flames |
WesDem |
May-04-07 07:41 PM |
#164 |
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Not the members but the TOPICS that cause most dissension |
carolinayellowdog |
May-05-07 06:28 AM |
#167 |
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GDP was founded as the forum for the topic of primaries |
WesDem |
May-05-07 07:43 AM |
#168 |
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I've read your original post again now |
WesDem |
May-05-07 08:12 AM |
#169 |
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the 'alert' key is your friend |
AZDemDist6 |
May-04-07 10:28 AM |
#155 |
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