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Fri Apr-09-10 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 35. In What Way Is Your Life Different Under Obama Then It Was Under Bush? |
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Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 12:06 PM by Toasterlad
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| -To everbody so pissed off at Obama they won't be voting |
WeDidIt |
Apr-09-10 09:46 AM |
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Agree. Too bad Obama voters in VA already stopped voting in '09. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-09-10 09:47 AM |
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I voted - reluctantly. |
muffin1 |
Apr-09-10 09:55 AM |
#5 |
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I held my nose and voted in VA many, many times. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-09-10 10:11 AM |
#9 |
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Your post brilliantly illustrates the conundrum |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 11:45 AM |
#53 |
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And There Lies The GREATEST Rub "laughingliberal" Because Either |
ChiciB1 |
Apr-09-10 01:28 PM |
#122 |
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I would never not vote |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-09-10 09:49 AM |
#2 |
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Absolutely...and until Rahm and Obama realize they need to stop |
joeybee12 |
Apr-09-10 09:50 AM |
#3 |
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for who? President Obama? or you? or the rest of us? |
ncteechur |
Apr-09-10 09:46 PM |
#149 |
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Who said I won't be voting? |
LWolf |
Apr-09-10 09:54 AM |
#4 |
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+1 |
Arctic Dave |
Apr-09-10 10:00 AM |
#7 |
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NO!!! You must vote for a Dem who opposes your core values! Otherwise, you'll be wasting your vote!! |
Karmadillo |
Apr-09-10 11:52 AM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Apr-09-10 01:49 PM |
#127 |
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This is always a point worth making... K&R |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 09:58 AM |
#6 |
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Its a bullshit strawman point, but you go ahead and kick it. |
Stinky The Clown |
Apr-09-10 12:19 PM |
#75 |
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Sometimes the strawman IS reality. |
ncteechur |
Apr-09-10 09:51 PM |
#150 |
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Will Someone PLEASE Put Some More Money In the Jukebox? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 10:10 AM |
#8 |
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Do you piss in every thread you're in? |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-09-10 10:11 AM |
#10 |
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Just the Ones You're In, Too. You Inspire Me. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 10:37 AM |
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This deserves to be pissed on. It's only the millionth rehash of the same |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 10:43 AM |
#19 |
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Too bad they're not listening. It will be largely the fault of... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-09-10 10:23 AM |
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if you want someone's vote, you don't shit on them and tell them to take it |
RainDog |
Apr-09-10 10:27 AM |
#12 |
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+1,000,000,000,000. |
muffin1 |
Apr-09-10 10:29 AM |
#13 |
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Thank you! n/t |
QC |
Apr-09-10 10:45 AM |
#22 |
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Likewise, if you're a voter, you don't always get the choices you want, but... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-09-10 10:49 AM |
#25 |
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The voter is entitled to vote, or not vote, for whomever he or she sees fit based |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 10:54 AM |
#31 |
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Huh? The voter can do any damn thing he or she wants to, including... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-09-10 11:24 AM |
#37 |
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The majority of the electorate wanted a public option. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-09-10 11:33 AM |
#43 |
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And An End To DADT. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:59 PM |
#106 |
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Oh, that's inconvenient. But I'm sure you'll receive a response soon. |
Ignis |
Apr-09-10 02:19 PM |
#131 |
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What? I can't hear you over the sound of all these crickets. n/t |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 02:57 PM |
#133 |
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Why, that's not very sporting at all! |
Ignis |
Apr-09-10 05:54 PM |
#140 |
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Everywhere? |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-09-10 09:35 PM |
#147 |
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Yes. |
girl gone mad |
Apr-11-10 06:56 AM |
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That is the point. So why are you demanding that people vote Democratic as though |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 12:07 PM |
#64 |
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I'm not "demanding" anything. I am juust explaining that in most elections... |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-09-10 09:41 PM |
#148 |
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You assume that people don't know what their options are. I know exactly what my choices are |
Raineyb |
Apr-10-10 01:38 PM |
#164 |
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+1 |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-09-10 11:58 AM |
#59 |
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OMG - you can't be serious |
EnlightenedOne |
Apr-09-10 10:48 AM |
#24 |
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In What Way Is Your Life Different Under Obama Then It Was Under Bush? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 11:18 AM |
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My school loans for one. My cousins are going back on their parent's health insurnace for another. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 11:21 AM |
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I'll Allow You the School Loan |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 11:26 AM |
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Oh and the court remained 5-4 Conservative v. Liberal instead of 6-3 Conservative Liberal |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 11:28 AM |
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That Really Did Help On That Whole "Corporations Don't Get a Vote" Thing, Didn't It? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 11:57 AM |
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Well, I suppose if you take the very short view of things, it doesn't matter. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 12:11 PM |
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We Dodged a Bullet With Souter In the First Place. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:51 PM |
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The Republican Party (and the Democratic Party) is a very different animal than it was in the 80s |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 12:54 PM |
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But It's Not the ONLY Outcome of A Presidential Election |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:58 PM |
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This actually isn't about *your* vote. You wanted to know how people's lives were different because |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 01:04 PM |
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But Obama Is Not the Supreme Court. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 01:13 PM |
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When you pick someone like Alito, do you really think there is any question as to which way he will |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 01:32 PM |
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I'm Not Talking About Not Voting Democratic. I'm Talking About Not Voting Progressive. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 02:04 PM |
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i'm sure you understand how voting works. Its a zero sum game |
onenote |
Apr-10-10 12:11 PM |
#160 |
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Principles Matter. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-10-10 04:50 PM |
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so how is it in your "self interest" to help get a republican elected? |
onenote |
Apr-10-10 12:10 PM |
#159 |
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You Can Attempt To Blame Me All You Want. It Won't Work Anymore. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-10-10 04:52 PM |
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and you can pretend that you're not to blame all you want. that won't work either. |
onenote |
Apr-11-10 06:34 AM |
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So, Who Is More To Blame: Me Or Ralph Nader? |
Toasterlad |
Apr-11-10 11:48 AM |
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Well... I can now be assassinated if the president doesn't like me. |
jgraz |
Apr-09-10 12:04 PM |
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Half a Point. You Could Have Been Assassinated Under Bush, Too. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:07 PM |
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I think the cheering Democrats is the worst part |
jgraz |
Apr-09-10 12:13 PM |
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You Said It, Brother. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:18 PM |
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Eh? I think there may be some slight miscommunication here. |
TreasonousBastard |
Apr-09-10 11:26 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-09-10 11:31 AM |
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It will be similar to when the Republicans took a beating in 2008 and figured |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 11:34 AM |
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The key word in your post is "progressives". |
backscatter712 |
Apr-09-10 11:38 AM |
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No, we'll blame you and the corporations for which you stand. |
Greyhound |
Apr-09-10 12:39 PM |
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This administration and its apologists have made it clear that they don't need the left |
dflprincess |
Apr-09-10 01:59 PM |
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They're going to say it anyways; it's a manipulative tactic, not a reasonable position. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-09-10 10:32 AM |
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If you don't vote because Obama is not as liberal as you wish he were you might as well... |
bamacrat |
Apr-09-10 10:40 AM |
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Voting for repuke-lites is only exacerbating the problem. |
muffin1 |
Apr-09-10 10:44 AM |
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No it wouldn't. It may wake us liberals up but like Bush the next Dem pres. would have to ... |
bamacrat |
Apr-09-10 10:49 AM |
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What's the difference between Obama and the GOP on education? None. |
tonysam |
Apr-09-10 10:46 AM |
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The GOP would allow prayer. |
bamacrat |
Apr-09-10 10:50 AM |
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Their pattern: 1. Sit out or vote third party; 2. Act |
ecstatic |
Apr-09-10 10:42 AM |
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I don't know, the corporatists are going to wait a hell of a long time for this democrat's vote. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-09-10 10:51 AM |
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Why does the GOP hope more liberals feel the way you do? |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 11:36 AM |
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Just go ahead and say "pony" if that's what you're implying. |
Ignis |
Apr-09-10 11:28 AM |
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Yup they are like a slinky on an escalator |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 11:35 AM |
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The DLC pattern: 1. collaborate with Repukes to destroy the country |
jgraz |
Apr-09-10 12:15 PM |
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It will be so much easier to take when the DLC Democrats |
dflprincess |
Apr-09-10 02:08 PM |
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Calling them amnesiacs implies they're forgetful.. |
girl gone mad |
Apr-11-10 07:06 AM |
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But it's okay to privatize public services, like education, because a "Democrat" does it. |
tonysam |
Apr-09-10 10:43 AM |
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I agree - - - - - I find it funny that there are those (including some in this thread) |
DrDan |
Apr-09-10 10:51 AM |
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You've wore many of us out. That old meme falls on deaf ears. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-09-10 10:43 AM |
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Intimidation.. geez louise.. |
Peacetrain |
Apr-09-10 11:34 AM |
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You are willing to see the Country go down in flames |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 11:37 AM |
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Yes, and Obama is pouring gasoline on the fire |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-09-10 12:47 PM |
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Waaah! Waaah! Waaah! Obama is not 100% perfect on every issue! |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-09-10 10:51 AM |
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Apr-09-10 10:57 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Apr-09-10 11:05 AM |
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Then run someone |
Egnever |
Apr-09-10 11:34 AM |
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Gosh, it must be because liberal ideas are really terrible |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-09-10 11:40 AM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 11:47 AM |
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It couldn't possibly be that many liberals are their own worse enemy |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 11:49 AM |
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We get it, Rahm, we're fucking retards. |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-09-10 12:01 PM |
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When you are willing to let a repuke win to try to prove a point |
Egnever |
Apr-09-10 12:10 PM |
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yup |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:17 PM |
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We get it. The narrative for November: "Blame the Dirty Fucking Hippies". eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-09-10 12:24 PM |
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Why did he use those unfortunate choice of words? If I remember |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:16 PM |
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Rahm was FORCED to use those "unfortunate words"! |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-09-10 12:27 PM |
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LINK? |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:28 PM |
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Unfortunate choice of words? He didn't have to use those words at all |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 12:37 PM |
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He should have told the liberals attacking Dems instead of Republicans they were being foolish |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:49 PM |
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Self destructive. The only time blue dogs seem to get in line is when their job |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 12:56 PM |
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Are you a white heterosexual male not living in poverty? |
Ignis |
Apr-09-10 02:35 PM |
#132 |
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I'm someone whose wife has a pre-existing medical condition |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-09-10 08:25 PM |
#141 |
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rec'd |
helderheid |
Apr-09-10 10:57 AM |
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This is why primaries are created |
LynneSin |
Apr-09-10 11:43 AM |
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ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS 'FIX' THE HEALTH CARE BILL LIKE YOU PROMISED. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-09-10 11:57 AM |
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How many times do I have to repost this? |
jgraz |
Apr-09-10 12:03 PM |
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Sorry, J...."Republican! Boo!" Is All the DLC Has. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:09 PM |
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Excellent post. - n/t |
Zenlitened |
Apr-09-10 03:24 PM |
#134 |
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I'll gladly vote for Obama when, and if, he earns my vote. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-09-10 12:12 PM |
#68 |
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How was that vote any better than a vote for McCain? |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:25 PM |
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It wasn't wasted on somebody I don't agree with. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-09-10 12:28 PM |
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I am talking real world, how was it any better in the real world where results matter? |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:29 PM |
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My conscience is part of the real world. Is yours? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-09-10 12:35 PM |
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My vote has made drastic changes in the real world, from nuclear disarmament |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:39 PM |
#87 |
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YOUR vote did that? Amazing. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-09-10 12:41 PM |
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Yup, voting can be a powerful thing if it is used wisely |
NJmaverick |
Apr-09-10 12:50 PM |
#94 |
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And, do you start hurricanes by exhaling? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-09-10 01:00 PM |
#108 |
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Hear, hear! |
Greyhound |
Apr-09-10 12:40 PM |
#89 |
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"Earning" a vote is a strange concept |
treestar |
Apr-09-10 08:29 PM |
#142 |
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A "strange concept"? It's called democracy. Look it up. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-09-10 11:12 PM |
#153 |
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Better yet, imagine if President Straw Man were picking his replacement. |
Stinky The Clown |
Apr-09-10 12:18 PM |
#73 |
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There is a handful of people that claim there is no difference between the two. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 12:19 PM |
#76 |
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Are you talking about regular posters? |
Stinky The Clown |
Apr-09-10 12:30 PM |
#83 |
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Posters who say that there is no difference between President Obama and President McCain. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 12:33 PM |
#84 |
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And Still None Of Them Voted For McCain, Or Are Sorry He Lost. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:53 PM |
#97 |
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Actually, one person did say they wish McCain had won |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 12:59 PM |
#105 |
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One person. Wow. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Apr-09-10 01:02 PM |
#110 |
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Seeing one well respected DUer advocate such an asinine approach is a pretty jarring sight |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 01:09 PM |
#116 |
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well respected by who? |
NNN0LHI |
Apr-10-10 05:25 PM |
#168 |
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You mean trolls... |
walldude |
Apr-09-10 01:03 PM |
#111 |
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No. I mean well respected DUers who have been here for years. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-09-10 01:10 PM |
#117 |
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LOL there are a number of those "well respected" trolls |
walldude |
Apr-09-10 01:31 PM |
#123 |
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If they cut the shit, what would they use to distract from the theft? n/t |
Greyhound |
Apr-09-10 12:41 PM |
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President Straw Man! We see a lot of him around here. nt |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 12:53 PM |
#98 |
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Elections do have consequences |
ecstatic |
Apr-09-10 12:55 PM |
#101 |
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That's what we hear |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 01:01 PM |
#109 |
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Maybe you should take a little time to read up on recent changes |
ecstatic |
Apr-09-10 01:04 PM |
#113 |
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Oh, yes! I love the liberal education policies that Newt has been traveling around with Arne to |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 01:11 PM |
#118 |
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You gotta be kidding.... |
blindpig |
Apr-09-10 12:50 PM |
#95 |
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It's All They Have. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-09-10 12:54 PM |
#99 |
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And they think if they repeat it ad nauseam that people will start to believe them. |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 12:57 PM |
#103 |
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Imagine if someone really liberal were picking Stevens' replacement ...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-09-10 01:00 PM |
#107 |
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The Purity Test Posts Should Be Riiiiiight Around The Corner... |
WillyT |
Apr-09-10 01:05 PM |
#114 |
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I hear it. Must be getting close. nt |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 01:13 PM |
#119 |
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Hey I have an idea... |
walldude |
Apr-09-10 01:08 PM |
#115 |
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I'm gonna do what I always do |
whatchamacallit |
Apr-09-10 01:20 PM |
#121 |
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It won't work... |
JoseGaspar |
Apr-09-10 01:39 PM |
#125 |
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Thank you! How people can ignore that most people get tired of being blackmailed with this crap is |
laughingliberal |
Apr-09-10 01:47 PM |
#126 |
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what you say is true. |
RainDog |
Apr-09-10 08:36 PM |
#143 |
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Get back to me if we get a liberal in the Stephens mold |
ibegurpard |
Apr-09-10 03:32 PM |
#135 |
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THREE THINGS |
EnlightenedOne |
Apr-09-10 04:02 PM |
#136 |
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First, the Democratic nominee basically ran as a Republican. Why vote for a faux Republican |
Raineyb |
Apr-09-10 05:18 PM |
#138 |
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"the fault will be with the candidates and not the voters" |
laughingliberal |
Apr-10-10 11:35 AM |
#155 |
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Thanks for pointing that out |
SusanaMontana41 |
Apr-09-10 04:16 PM |
#137 |
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No votey, no gripey! |
Born_A_Truman |
Apr-09-10 05:23 PM |
#139 |
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Seems as if many here also believe 'votey, no gripey.' |
laughingliberal |
Apr-10-10 11:53 AM |
#157 |
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Simple math : That 2 does not = 3 does not mean that 2 > 3 |
demwing |
Apr-09-10 08:51 PM |
#144 |
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They don't care about that. They would rather exult in their self-righteous purity. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Apr-09-10 08:55 PM |
#145 |
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Imagine if we got out of Afghanistan. |
rug |
Apr-09-10 09:01 PM |
#146 |
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Thank God for crums that fall off the table...Dems should be thankful for what they get.. |
lib2DaBone |
Apr-09-10 09:53 PM |
#151 |
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3rd party is coming.. people are tired of being ripped off... |
lib2DaBone |
Apr-09-10 10:01 PM |
#152 |
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That may be, but the third party everyone is talking about is the racist, hate mongering |
still_one |
Apr-10-10 09:05 AM |
#154 |
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Apr-10-10 11:50 AM |
#156 |
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The end result is almost always between the lesser of two evils. |
Silent3 |
Apr-10-10 12:29 PM |
#161 |
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The only people I know pissed at Obama are Republicans |
subaltern |
Apr-10-10 11:57 AM |
#158 |
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Isn't it a little early for the purity test? |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-10-10 12:41 PM |
#162 |
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Vote for a third party and send a message |
Threedifferentones |
Apr-10-10 12:47 PM |
#163 |
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I'll be voting ... |
gleaner |
Apr-10-10 05:13 PM |
#167 |
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And here we thought only Repukes drummed up |
xchrom |
Apr-11-10 07:47 AM |
#172 |
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