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68. because the subtext is that Obama and the Ds offer nothing but the garbage from the plates
of the upper 1%? a pile of stinking scraps and bones for the hoi-polloi (us) while our Corporate Overlords feast on our life's blood?

I offer you the trajectory of health care "reform" as a perfect example of how Hedges' "spiritual and moral suicide" plays out in the real world.

we are to be grateful for the scraps and bones, according to the apologists for the entrenchment of the power elites

i once read a post-apocalyptic novel in which some traveler and companions moved through a blasted landscape trying to avoid gangs of nihilistic youth who burned people alive for my worst moments i fear such for my little grand-daughter...

that's the path we are on

for truth, Camus harsh croaking carries far more power than Obama's soporific mellifluousness

and for those who's response to an article like this is frothing rage, i'd examine that response closely - after all, there's a reason that the saying goes ... "anger masks fear"
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  -The American empire is over. Our descent into a totalitarian capitalism in going to be horrifying Better Believe It  Apr-06-10 03:30 PM   #0 
  - It did happened in Germany -- bringing in Nazi era  kgnu_fan   Apr-06-10 03:34 PM   #1 
  - You are right about the whole layout of this. That is why Republicans are doing nothing to stop hate  glinda   Apr-06-10 08:35 PM   #38 
  - What do you think, specifically, are the similarities between the Weimar  cali   Apr-07-10 03:55 AM   #60 
  - You know, Cali, I respect you, but now you see, look at how many people are saying the same thing?  closeupready   Apr-07-10 12:51 PM   #108 
     - no, I really don't ignore the ugliness of today's political process  cali   Apr-07-10 02:22 PM   #116 
  - IN A RELATED STORY fangs pulled from teabaggers... only 2 teeth left, dog has no real bite  happygoluckytoyou   Apr-07-10 10:46 AM   #95 
  - I hit "rec." and it stays at zero.  Deep13   Apr-06-10 03:36 PM   #2 
  - Amen n/t  LiberalLoner   Apr-06-10 03:43 PM   #5 
  - ah, more chicken little'ism  paulsby   Apr-06-10 03:43 PM   #3 
  - You're dead wrong. Are you blind to what is now happening in our nation?  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 03:49 PM   #7 
  - no, i'm not  paulsby   Apr-06-10 03:58 PM   #13 
  - So you don't think this is different and is a real economic crisis. I'd like to know why.  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 04:07 PM   #14 
     - EVERY recession/depression is "different"  paulsby   Apr-06-10 04:22 PM   #16 
        - So when was the last economic crisis before the current "Great Recession"?  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 04:30 PM   #17 
        - depends on how you define "crisis"  paulsby   Apr-06-10 05:30 PM   #21 
        - You know when I knew for sure that the market would crash in  JDPriestly   Apr-06-10 08:43 PM   #42 
           - that's actually a very intelligent way to look at it.  paulsby   Apr-06-10 09:28 PM   #44 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-06-10 06:05 PM   #23 
        - What I find different  BonnieJW   Apr-07-10 08:21 AM   #71 
        - And some of those chicken littles are very pleased with themselves  JDPriestly   Apr-06-10 08:26 PM   #34 
        - You should be buying,when everone else is selling.  Swede   Apr-07-10 09:33 AM   #90 
           - you are talking about buying and selling when many people around me cant  rhett o rick   Apr-07-10 02:38 PM   #119 
           - +1 nt  laughingliberal   Apr-07-10 04:46 PM   #125 
           - Good point. Lot's of us never had anything to buy or sell but got  JDPriestly   Apr-08-10 01:47 PM   #146 
              - The stock market is the biggest con game ever.  rhett o rick   Apr-08-10 04:04 PM   #152 
                 - Agreed. 100%. The stock market is just a big gamble.  JDPriestly   Apr-08-10 07:00 PM   #157 
                    - Yes, where the house manipulates the game. nm  rhett o rick   Apr-08-10 11:24 PM   #158 
           - Got any good bets working people can place at the Wall Street casino?  Better Believe It   Apr-09-10 08:36 AM   #159 
        - the op wasnt about the "death of capitalism"  patrick t. cakes   Apr-06-10 08:39 PM   #41 
           - Bingo!! n/t  Fire1   Apr-07-10 08:38 AM   #82 
  - Do yourself a favor, put this one on ignore.  girl gone mad   Apr-06-10 07:06 PM   #28 
  - LOL. Whoever that is is ALREADY on my ignore list!!!!  BrklynLiberal   Apr-06-10 08:28 PM   #36 
  - I had to log out to make sure it was who I thought it was.  Occulus   Apr-07-10 01:00 AM   #53 
     - handy tip - printer friendly view shows the ignored nt  glitch   Apr-07-10 10:03 AM   #92 
  - yup.  closeupready   Apr-07-10 12:53 PM   #109 
  - bullshit. a heaping pile of hysteria  cali   Apr-07-10 04:08 AM   #61 
  - +1  JTFrog   Apr-07-10 07:13 AM   #64 
  - because the subtext is that Obama and the Ds offer nothing but the garbage from the plates  bread_and_roses   Apr-07-10 07:50 AM   #68 
  - no, because it's hysterical end-timer crap  cali   Apr-07-10 08:26 AM   #75 
     - We are just one drought  femrap   Apr-07-10 12:21 PM   #102 
     - There you go again  kenfrequed   Apr-07-10 02:29 PM   #118 
     - I think by the time it's all said and done many of us will wish it had been the end  laughingliberal   Apr-07-10 04:51 PM   #126 
  - HUAC and the red-baiting hysteria of McCarthyism rose during the early days of the post-World War II  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 08:24 AM   #73 
  - i agree- although he touches on some reality, his negative hyperbole is way over the top  BREMPRO   Apr-07-10 09:07 AM   #86 
     - Suggesting we had fascism for 8 years and than ended it with an election in 2008 is pure fantasy.  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 11:10 AM   #96 
        - of course it is- you didn't read my post clearly- i mentioned "roots with Reagan admin"  BREMPRO   Apr-07-10 02:42 PM   #120 
           - "corporate influece- at least the dems try to fight it publically and privately." Which Dems are?  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 10:19 PM   #134 
  - You are 100 % right. But the reason some people can't see it  icee   Apr-07-10 07:46 AM   #66 
  - So of course you do understand that 1946 might have been  Bluenorthwest   Apr-07-10 08:14 AM   #69 
  - "Pat Boone?" Right. "...halcyon days?" Right..... "Can diagram  icee   Apr-07-10 08:33 AM   #78 
  - Your post brings up an excellent point  laughingliberal   Apr-07-10 04:58 PM   #127 
     - That's the point I was trying to make. Back in the old days, despite  icee   Apr-07-10 10:21 PM   #135 
  - This is not new - in the 1930s, FDR was elected to assauge the populous  Hestia   Apr-07-10 08:52 AM   #84 
  - How can it be 'new' if it's the "first fascist movement in the US *since the Great Depression*?  Richardo   Apr-07-10 10:25 AM   #94 
  - ad hominem?  Dogtown   Apr-06-10 03:57 PM   #11 
  - Um, usually their warnings go unheeded as "chicken little'isms"...  Deep13   Apr-06-10 04:37 PM   #19 
  - Ah, more head-in-the-sand-ism  Odin2005   Apr-06-10 07:11 PM   #30 
  - I hope you are joking.  JDPriestly   Apr-06-10 08:11 PM   #32 
  - Simply excellent....  icee   Apr-07-10 08:35 AM   #79 
  - brilliant insights- bravo! it is a moral crisis- selfishness is endemic  BREMPRO   Apr-07-10 09:19 AM   #89 
  - Good points, however, you somehow managed to leave out of your history ....  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 11:16 AM   #98 
  - Don't forget  femrap   Apr-07-10 12:30 PM   #103 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-06-10 08:36 PM   #40 
  - Welcome to my ignore dungeon.  L0oniX   Apr-06-10 09:19 PM   #43 
  - right...  kenfrequed   Apr-07-10 12:49 PM   #107 
  - Says the man that made his career making everything worse.  Greyhound   Apr-07-10 01:15 PM   #112 
  - Libertarians shouldnt even be allowed in DU unless they promise to at least  rhett o rick   Apr-08-10 04:18 PM   #153 
  - The 'empire' is going strong, and will continue. American Dream R Dead  leftstreet   Apr-06-10 03:43 PM   #4 
  - Is that the american dream of the rich white racists ruling over the poor?  Xenotime   Apr-07-10 09:19 AM   #88 
     - +1  Echo In Light   Apr-12-10 06:15 AM   #164 
  - Democrats have failed to marshal the populist angst to their benefit  laughingliberal   Apr-06-10 03:44 PM   #6 
  - And probably won't because they don't want Republicans to attack them for promoting "class war"  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 03:53 PM   #9 
  - because Democrats are just as culpable as Republicans in bringing this disaster about.  salguine   Apr-06-10 06:45 PM   #25 
  - ......  DJ13   Apr-06-10 03:50 PM   #8 
  - Is Totalitarian Capitalism the new term for Fascist??  dkofos   Apr-06-10 03:55 PM   #10 
  - Since the term "fascist" is frequently mis-used to describe anything right-wing you might be right.  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 04:11 PM   #15 
  - Guess so since they are the same thing. nt  Deep13   Apr-06-10 04:38 PM   #20 
  - Not having to really prove any of the conclusions in that first paragraph  treestar   Apr-06-10 03:58 PM   #12 
  - "The American empire is over." OK  ProSense   Apr-06-10 04:33 PM   #18 
  - Article is a month old. Why is it being posted now?  cutlassmama   Apr-06-10 05:52 PM   #22 
  - I didn't know there was a statue of limitations regarding publication dates for links in this site  liberation   Apr-06-10 06:50 PM   #26 
  - I just read it and didn't see it posted earlier. Was it posted before on DU?  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 07:15 PM   #31 
  - 4 other times that I know of.  cali   Apr-07-10 04:27 AM   #62 
     - And you had to read it again?  Dr.Phool   Apr-07-10 08:23 AM   #72 
  - so what?  fascisthunter   Apr-07-10 11:43 AM   #99 
  - blah blah blah, people have been pushing this crap forever  crazyjoe   Apr-06-10 06:09 PM   #24 
  - this column is WAY too optimistic  branders seine   Apr-06-10 06:53 PM   #27 
  - Here's one.  troubledamerican   Apr-06-10 08:26 PM   #35 
     - The Balkanization of the US is inevitable.  branders seine   Apr-07-10 11:14 AM   #97 
        - Chile 1973 is more likely.  troubledamerican   Apr-07-10 12:45 PM   #105 
           - I see the whole thing splitting into rival neo-feudal such states though.  branders seine   Apr-07-10 12:46 PM   #106 
              - ...each with nuclear weapons & state-of-the-art military hardware?  troubledamerican   Apr-07-10 02:59 PM   #122 
                 - some with more than others  branders seine   Apr-08-10 01:23 PM   #144 
  - We are SOOO fucked.  Odin2005   Apr-06-10 07:10 PM   #29 
  - K&R  amborin   Apr-06-10 08:21 PM   #33 
  - uh, no sorry. that is flawed logic of the first order.  cali   Apr-07-10 04:32 AM   #63 
  - you might be confused. it's called ridiculing hedges hysterical BS...  dionysus   Apr-07-10 08:37 AM   #80 
     - Says you  Echo In Light   Apr-11-10 08:14 AM   #163 
  - They Thought They were Free....  BrklynLiberal   Apr-06-10 08:30 PM   #37 
  - I have that book, have read it, along with recounts  tnlefty   Apr-06-10 09:49 PM   #45 
  - One of the smartest people I ever knew turned me on to that book  truedelphi   Apr-07-10 03:04 AM   #57 
  - Mayer was a fascinating man in many, many ways...  BrklynLiberal   Apr-07-10 08:10 PM   #130 
     - I did not know of his Chicago background.  truedelphi   Apr-08-10 03:50 PM   #151 
  - Thanks for sourcing that!  Echo In Light   Apr-07-10 08:37 AM   #81 
  - K&R n/t  glinda   Apr-06-10 08:36 PM   #39 
  - "Liberal apologists"  Skittles   Apr-06-10 10:42 PM   #46 
  - Welp, Oprah is starting a TV network.  lonestarnot   Apr-06-10 10:42 PM   #47 
  - K&R  Angry Dragon   Apr-07-10 12:06 AM   #48 
  - what, me worry?  tomp   Apr-07-10 12:11 AM   #49 
  - Great piece.  SpankMe   Apr-07-10 12:16 AM   #50 
  - I put it at 70%.  icee   Apr-07-10 07:49 AM   #67 
  - I, too, am extremely disappointed, but mostly in the liberal leadership, like the Progressive Caucus  grahamhgreen   Apr-07-10 12:53 AM   #51 
  - Yes I too am disappointed in the way they allowed the DLC  truedelphi   Apr-07-10 03:10 AM   #58 
     - This Democratic congressman didn't fold.  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 08:41 AM   #83 
        - Good to know. Let me know when he runs for office -  truedelphi   Apr-07-10 04:42 PM   #124 
  - move out!  speedcat   Apr-07-10 12:54 AM   #52 
  - That's very articulate.  Ghost Dog   Apr-07-10 01:36 AM   #54 
  - Great article  Hestia   Apr-07-10 09:14 AM   #87 
  - Not this piece of shit again.  cali   Apr-07-10 01:52 AM   #55 
  - +1, It is rather naive  JCMach1   Apr-07-10 03:12 AM   #59 
  - Yeah it's kind of just a writers sort of narcicism (sp?) thinking they're  cbdo2007   Apr-07-10 07:26 AM   #65 
  - How's your war going, cali?  Octafish   Apr-07-10 08:27 PM   #132 
     - +1  Echo In Light   Apr-10-10 03:46 PM   #161 
     - Why call it my war, genius if you know I"m staunchly against both of them?  cali   Apr-10-10 03:50 PM   #162 
  - K&R  my2sense   Apr-07-10 01:53 AM   #56 
  - Well you should get your recs. nt  newtothegame   Apr-07-10 08:20 AM   #70 
  - k/r - this angers the Right people for accurate reasons  Echo In Light   Apr-07-10 08:25 AM   #74 
  - more fail porn, eh BBI?  dionysus   Apr-07-10 08:30 AM   #76 
  - The author is doing it wrong....  Moostache   Apr-07-10 08:30 AM   #77 
  - The Republicans are where they want to be  LiberalLovinLug   Apr-07-10 02:26 PM   #117 
  - I initially thought this was going to be another gloom-and-doom screed  deutsey   Apr-07-10 08:53 AM   #85 
  - Oh no it's all OVAR!!!!  Autonomy   Apr-07-10 09:38 AM   #91 
  - Ask any weatherman how accurate forecasts usually are.  caseymoz   Apr-07-10 10:24 AM   #93 
  - It will be swift and brutal if we go this direction  Politicub   Apr-07-10 11:43 AM   #100 
  - notice how many recs this gets  fascisthunter   Apr-07-10 11:45 AM   #101 
  - Isn't "CAPITALIST TOTALITARIANISM" here already?  h9socialist   Apr-07-10 12:40 PM   #104 
  - We don't live under a political or fascist dictatorship yet. If we did, you wouldn't be posting.  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 01:28 PM   #113 
     - Have you ever read "1984"????  h9socialist   Apr-07-10 01:35 PM   #114 
     - I am reminded of "1984" almost every day I participate in the "outer reality"  truedelphi   Apr-08-10 01:42 AM   #140 
        - You are hereby entitled to . . .  h9socialist   Apr-08-10 08:28 AM   #142 
        - Oh thank you! Serve it up soon please  truedelphi   Apr-08-10 03:39 PM   #149 
        - I liked your post until you started up with the chemtrail insanity.  Odin2005   Apr-08-10 04:21 PM   #154 
        - Okay Odin2005 - I am TOTALLY open to anyone who can explain this  truedelphi   Apr-08-10 04:38 PM   #156 
        - .  Echo In Light   Apr-10-10 06:04 AM   #160 
     - Besides, mine isn't the biggest overdramatization we've heard lately!  h9socialist   Apr-07-10 01:37 PM   #115 
  - Spot on  DirkGently   Apr-07-10 12:56 PM   #110 
  - Predictions of the future  davidthegnome   Apr-07-10 01:14 PM   #111 
  - The specifics..  sendero   Apr-07-10 05:11 PM   #128 
     - I have to agree  davidthegnome   Apr-07-10 06:21 PM   #129 
  - Quite Feasible  colsohlibgal   Apr-07-10 02:56 PM   #121 
  - Bump  Echo In Light   Apr-07-10 03:32 PM   #123 
  - I gotta take issue with one thing...  Octafish   Apr-07-10 08:20 PM   #131 
  - +1  Echo In Light   Apr-08-10 01:24 PM   #145 
  - You should re-post this.  Swamp Rat   Apr-08-10 03:40 PM   #150 
  - Quasimodo predicted this !  RagAss   Apr-07-10 08:31 PM   #133 
  - Isn't there an End Of Days website or something that people like you would be happier at?  BlooInBloo   Apr-07-10 10:22 PM   #136 
  - Just waiting around for the Democrats to fight the Republicans.  Better Believe It   Apr-07-10 10:39 PM   #137 
  - Yes- we all were/are waiting for Democrats to stand for something on their left platform  n.michigan   Apr-08-10 09:14 AM   #143 
  - +1000 (don't hold your breath, though)  Echo In Light   Apr-08-10 02:39 PM   #147 
  - I don't think anyone is begging for it  davidthegnome   Apr-08-10 05:38 AM   #141 
  - Really? I think it will be fun.  MellowDem   Apr-07-10 10:43 PM   #138 
  - Hey...didn't I see you ranting wildly on public access cable the other night?  tjwash   Apr-07-10 10:43 PM   #139 
     - Who do you mean? The author or me?  Better Believe It   Apr-08-10 03:20 PM   #148 
        - Goddamn liberals  Echo In Light   Apr-08-10 04:23 PM   #155 

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