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| 6. Democrats have failed to marshal the populist angst to their benefit |
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Really the only way they could have would have been with policies from the more liberal side of the party. Instead they have chosen the Third Way. Centrist policies are, basically, more of the same and might mitigate the damage done to working and middle class Americans but they offer no solution which turns back the tides against us.
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| -The American empire is over. Our descent into a totalitarian capitalism in going to be horrifying |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 03:30 PM |
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It did happened in Germany -- bringing in Nazi era |
kgnu_fan |
Apr-06-10 03:34 PM |
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You are right about the whole layout of this. That is why Republicans are doing nothing to stop hate |
glinda |
Apr-06-10 08:35 PM |
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What do you think, specifically, are the similarities between the Weimar |
cali |
Apr-07-10 03:55 AM |
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You know, Cali, I respect you, but now you see, look at how many people are saying the same thing? |
closeupready |
Apr-07-10 12:51 PM |
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no, I really don't ignore the ugliness of today's political process |
cali |
Apr-07-10 02:22 PM |
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IN A RELATED STORY fangs pulled from teabaggers... only 2 teeth left, dog has no real bite |
happygoluckytoyou |
Apr-07-10 10:46 AM |
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I hit "rec." and it stays at zero. |
Deep13 |
Apr-06-10 03:36 PM |
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Amen n/t |
LiberalLoner |
Apr-06-10 03:43 PM |
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ah, more chicken little'ism |
paulsby |
Apr-06-10 03:43 PM |
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You're dead wrong. Are you blind to what is now happening in our nation? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 03:49 PM |
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no, i'm not |
paulsby |
Apr-06-10 03:58 PM |
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So you don't think this is different and is a real economic crisis. I'd like to know why. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 04:07 PM |
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EVERY recession/depression is "different" |
paulsby |
Apr-06-10 04:22 PM |
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So when was the last economic crisis before the current "Great Recession"? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 04:30 PM |
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depends on how you define "crisis" |
paulsby |
Apr-06-10 05:30 PM |
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You know when I knew for sure that the market would crash in |
JDPriestly |
Apr-06-10 08:43 PM |
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that's actually a very intelligent way to look at it. |
paulsby |
Apr-06-10 09:28 PM |
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Apr-06-10 06:05 PM |
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What I find different |
BonnieJW |
Apr-07-10 08:21 AM |
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And some of those chicken littles are very pleased with themselves |
JDPriestly |
Apr-06-10 08:26 PM |
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You should be buying,when everone else is selling. |
Swede |
Apr-07-10 09:33 AM |
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you are talking about buying and selling when many people around me cant |
rhett o rick |
Apr-07-10 02:38 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Apr-07-10 04:46 PM |
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Good point. Lot's of us never had anything to buy or sell but got |
JDPriestly |
Apr-08-10 01:47 PM |
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The stock market is the biggest con game ever. |
rhett o rick |
Apr-08-10 04:04 PM |
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Agreed. 100%. The stock market is just a big gamble. |
JDPriestly |
Apr-08-10 07:00 PM |
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Yes, where the house manipulates the game. nm |
rhett o rick |
Apr-08-10 11:24 PM |
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Got any good bets working people can place at the Wall Street casino? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-09-10 08:36 AM |
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the op wasnt about the "death of capitalism" |
patrick t. cakes |
Apr-06-10 08:39 PM |
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Bingo!! n/t |
Fire1 |
Apr-07-10 08:38 AM |
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Do yourself a favor, put this one on ignore. |
girl gone mad |
Apr-06-10 07:06 PM |
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LOL. Whoever that is is ALREADY on my ignore list!!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-06-10 08:28 PM |
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I had to log out to make sure it was who I thought it was. |
Occulus |
Apr-07-10 01:00 AM |
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handy tip - printer friendly view shows the ignored nt |
glitch |
Apr-07-10 10:03 AM |
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yup. |
closeupready |
Apr-07-10 12:53 PM |
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bullshit. a heaping pile of hysteria |
cali |
Apr-07-10 04:08 AM |
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+1 |
JTFrog |
Apr-07-10 07:13 AM |
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because the subtext is that Obama and the Ds offer nothing but the garbage from the plates |
bread_and_roses |
Apr-07-10 07:50 AM |
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no, because it's hysterical end-timer crap |
cali |
Apr-07-10 08:26 AM |
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We are just one drought |
femrap |
Apr-07-10 12:21 PM |
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There you go again |
kenfrequed |
Apr-07-10 02:29 PM |
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I think by the time it's all said and done many of us will wish it had been the end |
laughingliberal |
Apr-07-10 04:51 PM |
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HUAC and the red-baiting hysteria of McCarthyism rose during the early days of the post-World War II |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 08:24 AM |
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i agree- although he touches on some reality, his negative hyperbole is way over the top |
BREMPRO |
Apr-07-10 09:07 AM |
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Suggesting we had fascism for 8 years and than ended it with an election in 2008 is pure fantasy. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 11:10 AM |
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of course it is- you didn't read my post clearly- i mentioned "roots with Reagan admin" |
BREMPRO |
Apr-07-10 02:42 PM |
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"corporate influece- at least the dems try to fight it publically and privately." Which Dems are? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 10:19 PM |
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You are 100 % right. But the reason some people can't see it |
icee |
Apr-07-10 07:46 AM |
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So of course you do understand that 1946 might have been |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-07-10 08:14 AM |
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"Pat Boone?" Right. "...halcyon days?" Right..... "Can diagram |
icee |
Apr-07-10 08:33 AM |
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Your post brings up an excellent point |
laughingliberal |
Apr-07-10 04:58 PM |
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That's the point I was trying to make. Back in the old days, despite |
icee |
Apr-07-10 10:21 PM |
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This is not new - in the 1930s, FDR was elected to assauge the populous |
Hestia |
Apr-07-10 08:52 AM |
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How can it be 'new' if it's the "first fascist movement in the US *since the Great Depression*? |
Richardo |
Apr-07-10 10:25 AM |
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ad hominem? |
Dogtown |
Apr-06-10 03:57 PM |
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Um, usually their warnings go unheeded as "chicken little'isms"... |
Deep13 |
Apr-06-10 04:37 PM |
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Ah, more head-in-the-sand-ism |
Odin2005 |
Apr-06-10 07:11 PM |
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I hope you are joking. |
JDPriestly |
Apr-06-10 08:11 PM |
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Simply excellent.... |
icee |
Apr-07-10 08:35 AM |
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brilliant insights- bravo! it is a moral crisis- selfishness is endemic |
BREMPRO |
Apr-07-10 09:19 AM |
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Good points, however, you somehow managed to leave out of your history .... |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 11:16 AM |
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Don't forget |
femrap |
Apr-07-10 12:30 PM |
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Apr-06-10 08:36 PM |
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Welcome to my ignore dungeon. |
L0oniX |
Apr-06-10 09:19 PM |
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right... |
kenfrequed |
Apr-07-10 12:49 PM |
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Says the man that made his career making everything worse. |
Greyhound |
Apr-07-10 01:15 PM |
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Libertarians shouldnt even be allowed in DU unless they promise to at least |
rhett o rick |
Apr-08-10 04:18 PM |
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The 'empire' is going strong, and will continue. American Dream R Dead |
leftstreet |
Apr-06-10 03:43 PM |
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Is that the american dream of the rich white racists ruling over the poor? |
Xenotime |
Apr-07-10 09:19 AM |
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+1 |
Echo In Light |
Apr-12-10 06:15 AM |
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Democrats have failed to marshal the populist angst to their benefit |
laughingliberal |
Apr-06-10 03:44 PM |
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And probably won't because they don't want Republicans to attack them for promoting "class war" |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 03:53 PM |
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because Democrats are just as culpable as Republicans in bringing this disaster about. |
salguine |
Apr-06-10 06:45 PM |
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...... |
DJ13 |
Apr-06-10 03:50 PM |
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Is Totalitarian Capitalism the new term for Fascist?? |
dkofos |
Apr-06-10 03:55 PM |
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Since the term "fascist" is frequently mis-used to describe anything right-wing you might be right. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 04:11 PM |
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Guess so since they are the same thing. nt |
Deep13 |
Apr-06-10 04:38 PM |
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Not having to really prove any of the conclusions in that first paragraph |
treestar |
Apr-06-10 03:58 PM |
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"The American empire is over." OK |
ProSense |
Apr-06-10 04:33 PM |
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Article is a month old. Why is it being posted now? |
cutlassmama |
Apr-06-10 05:52 PM |
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I didn't know there was a statue of limitations regarding publication dates for links in this site |
liberation |
Apr-06-10 06:50 PM |
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I just read it and didn't see it posted earlier. Was it posted before on DU? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-06-10 07:15 PM |
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4 other times that I know of. |
cali |
Apr-07-10 04:27 AM |
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And you had to read it again? |
Dr.Phool |
Apr-07-10 08:23 AM |
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so what? |
fascisthunter |
Apr-07-10 11:43 AM |
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blah blah blah, people have been pushing this crap forever |
crazyjoe |
Apr-06-10 06:09 PM |
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this column is WAY too optimistic |
branders seine |
Apr-06-10 06:53 PM |
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Here's one. |
troubledamerican |
Apr-06-10 08:26 PM |
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The Balkanization of the US is inevitable. |
branders seine |
Apr-07-10 11:14 AM |
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Chile 1973 is more likely. |
troubledamerican |
Apr-07-10 12:45 PM |
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I see the whole thing splitting into rival neo-feudal such states though. |
branders seine |
Apr-07-10 12:46 PM |
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...each with nuclear weapons & state-of-the-art military hardware? |
troubledamerican |
Apr-07-10 02:59 PM |
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some with more than others |
branders seine |
Apr-08-10 01:23 PM |
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We are SOOO fucked. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-06-10 07:10 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Apr-06-10 08:21 PM |
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uh, no sorry. that is flawed logic of the first order. |
cali |
Apr-07-10 04:32 AM |
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you might be confused. it's called ridiculing hedges hysterical BS... |
dionysus |
Apr-07-10 08:37 AM |
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Says you |
Echo In Light |
Apr-11-10 08:14 AM |
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They Thought They were Free.... |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-06-10 08:30 PM |
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I have that book, have read it, along with recounts |
tnlefty |
Apr-06-10 09:49 PM |
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One of the smartest people I ever knew turned me on to that book |
truedelphi |
Apr-07-10 03:04 AM |
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Mayer was a fascinating man in many, many ways... |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-07-10 08:10 PM |
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I did not know of his Chicago background. |
truedelphi |
Apr-08-10 03:50 PM |
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Thanks for sourcing that! |
Echo In Light |
Apr-07-10 08:37 AM |
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K&R n/t |
glinda |
Apr-06-10 08:36 PM |
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"Liberal apologists" |
Skittles |
Apr-06-10 10:42 PM |
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Welp, Oprah is starting a TV network. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-10 10:42 PM |
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K&R |
Angry Dragon |
Apr-07-10 12:06 AM |
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what, me worry? |
tomp |
Apr-07-10 12:11 AM |
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Great piece. |
SpankMe |
Apr-07-10 12:16 AM |
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I put it at 70%. |
icee |
Apr-07-10 07:49 AM |
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I, too, am extremely disappointed, but mostly in the liberal leadership, like the Progressive Caucus |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-07-10 12:53 AM |
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Yes I too am disappointed in the way they allowed the DLC |
truedelphi |
Apr-07-10 03:10 AM |
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This Democratic congressman didn't fold. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 08:41 AM |
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Good to know. Let me know when he runs for office - |
truedelphi |
Apr-07-10 04:42 PM |
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move out! |
speedcat |
Apr-07-10 12:54 AM |
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That's very articulate. |
Ghost Dog |
Apr-07-10 01:36 AM |
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Great article |
Hestia |
Apr-07-10 09:14 AM |
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Not this piece of shit again. |
cali |
Apr-07-10 01:52 AM |
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+1, It is rather naive |
JCMach1 |
Apr-07-10 03:12 AM |
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Yeah it's kind of just a writers sort of narcicism (sp?) thinking they're |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-07-10 07:26 AM |
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How's your war going, cali? |
Octafish |
Apr-07-10 08:27 PM |
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+1 |
Echo In Light |
Apr-10-10 03:46 PM |
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Why call it my war, genius if you know I"m staunchly against both of them? |
cali |
Apr-10-10 03:50 PM |
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K&R |
my2sense |
Apr-07-10 01:53 AM |
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Well you should get your recs. nt |
newtothegame |
Apr-07-10 08:20 AM |
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k/r - this angers the Right people for accurate reasons |
Echo In Light |
Apr-07-10 08:25 AM |
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more fail porn, eh BBI? |
dionysus |
Apr-07-10 08:30 AM |
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The author is doing it wrong.... |
Moostache |
Apr-07-10 08:30 AM |
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The Republicans are where they want to be |
LiberalLovinLug |
Apr-07-10 02:26 PM |
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I initially thought this was going to be another gloom-and-doom screed |
deutsey |
Apr-07-10 08:53 AM |
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Oh no it's all OVAR!!!! |
Autonomy |
Apr-07-10 09:38 AM |
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Ask any weatherman how accurate forecasts usually are. |
caseymoz |
Apr-07-10 10:24 AM |
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It will be swift and brutal if we go this direction |
Politicub |
Apr-07-10 11:43 AM |
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notice how many recs this gets |
fascisthunter |
Apr-07-10 11:45 AM |
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Isn't "CAPITALIST TOTALITARIANISM" here already? |
h9socialist |
Apr-07-10 12:40 PM |
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We don't live under a political or fascist dictatorship yet. If we did, you wouldn't be posting. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 01:28 PM |
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Have you ever read "1984"???? |
h9socialist |
Apr-07-10 01:35 PM |
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I am reminded of "1984" almost every day I participate in the "outer reality" |
truedelphi |
Apr-08-10 01:42 AM |
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You are hereby entitled to . . . |
h9socialist |
Apr-08-10 08:28 AM |
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Oh thank you! Serve it up soon please |
truedelphi |
Apr-08-10 03:39 PM |
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I liked your post until you started up with the chemtrail insanity. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-08-10 04:21 PM |
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Okay Odin2005 - I am TOTALLY open to anyone who can explain this |
truedelphi |
Apr-08-10 04:38 PM |
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. |
Echo In Light |
Apr-10-10 06:04 AM |
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Besides, mine isn't the biggest overdramatization we've heard lately! |
h9socialist |
Apr-07-10 01:37 PM |
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Spot on |
DirkGently |
Apr-07-10 12:56 PM |
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Predictions of the future |
davidthegnome |
Apr-07-10 01:14 PM |
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The specifics.. |
sendero |
Apr-07-10 05:11 PM |
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I have to agree |
davidthegnome |
Apr-07-10 06:21 PM |
#129 |
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Quite Feasible |
colsohlibgal |
Apr-07-10 02:56 PM |
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Bump |
Echo In Light |
Apr-07-10 03:32 PM |
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I gotta take issue with one thing... |
Octafish |
Apr-07-10 08:20 PM |
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+1 |
Echo In Light |
Apr-08-10 01:24 PM |
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You should re-post this. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-08-10 03:40 PM |
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Quasimodo predicted this ! |
RagAss |
Apr-07-10 08:31 PM |
#133 |
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Isn't there an End Of Days website or something that people like you would be happier at? |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-07-10 10:22 PM |
#136 |
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Just waiting around for the Democrats to fight the Republicans. |
Better Believe It |
Apr-07-10 10:39 PM |
#137 |
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Yes- we all were/are waiting for Democrats to stand for something on their left platform |
n.michigan |
Apr-08-10 09:14 AM |
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+1000 (don't hold your breath, though) |
Echo In Light |
Apr-08-10 02:39 PM |
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I don't think anyone is begging for it |
davidthegnome |
Apr-08-10 05:38 AM |
#141 |
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Really? I think it will be fun. |
MellowDem |
Apr-07-10 10:43 PM |
#138 |
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Hey...didn't I see you ranting wildly on public access cable the other night? |
tjwash |
Apr-07-10 10:43 PM |
#139 |
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Who do you mean? The author or me? |
Better Believe It |
Apr-08-10 03:20 PM |
#148 |
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Goddamn liberals |
Echo In Light |
Apr-08-10 04:23 PM |
#155 |
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