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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 07:24 PM
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74. Really?
I don't think the visuals are good enough to notice the children. The picture I've seen don't look like children or anything, it's just hearsay by the people who decided to put an arrow and mark it "children". Not to mention this was after going over the video who knows how many times and not in the heat of battle paying attention to a lot of other things.

So whether or not it was full of insurgents was up in the air to the trigger happy pilots in the video.

Who knows what the father saw happen, but if he knew that chopper was what shot at those men, it would be patently stupid to drive and start helping a group of men who you don't know why they were shot at with the chopper still hovering overhead and with your children with you. That's why I'm guessing the father had no idea the chopper shot them. In fact, I'm guessing the reporters didn't even know who was shooting at them at first.
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  -Ed Schultz just totally whitewashed the wikileaks video. I am so sick of these people no limit  Apr-06-10 03:01 PM   #0 
  - I'm pretty sure they are under pressure from 2 sources  laughingliberal   Apr-06-10 03:04 PM   #1 
  - This doesn't even have anything to do with this administartion, it happened in 2007  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:05 PM   #3 
  - Except that this administration prefers to "look forward"  dflprincess   Apr-06-10 03:11 PM   #8 
  - I wonder if this administration knew about these videos  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:12 PM   #9 
  - BS. What gives you that stupid idea?  lumpy   Apr-06-10 03:19 PM   #18 
     - Where did I get that stupid idea? From Obama  dflprincess   Apr-06-10 09:37 PM   #127 
  - Lol! I didn't say I agreed with his selling out. I just offered an opinion as to the reason for it.  laughingliberal   Apr-06-10 03:16 PM   #15 
     - You are probably right about his administration not wanting this to be a story  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:21 PM   #22 
        - No worries. Much to be agitated about in today's world. nt  laughingliberal   Apr-06-10 03:36 PM   #28 
  - Not Ed Schultz!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-06-10 03:05 PM   #2 
  - Could be you are wrong, rather than a far fetched theory that the "corporations got to him"  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 03:07 PM   #4 
  - Wrong about what? Are you saying I didn't see what I just saw? Or are you calling me a liar?  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:08 PM   #5 
     - +10000000000000 nt  The Hope Mobile   Apr-06-10 03:10 PM   #7 
     - They shot up an unidentified van that showed up immediately after the fire fight  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 03:13 PM   #11 
     - 2 or 3 minutes after the "firefight". on a public road.  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:15 PM   #14 
     - Again to be accurate he was helping injured insurgents with RPGs  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 04:31 PM   #36 
        - No, he was helping an injured journalist he saw while driving down the street  no limit   Apr-06-10 05:07 PM   #45 
        - That is incorrect and completely speculative on your part.  arcadian   Apr-07-10 10:05 AM   #136 
        - There were NO frickin' RPGs.. What the dumbasses said they thought was an RPG launcher was a CAMERA.  kath   Apr-08-10 12:47 AM   #151 
     - "Firefight"...  trumad   Apr-06-10 03:21 PM   #20 
     - you see, the collateral damage started the firefight, then an unauthorized ambulance engaged  Supersedeas   Apr-07-10 01:28 PM   #146 
     - Apologists, give it a rest  matt819   Apr-06-10 03:29 PM   #24 
     - Not going to happen, but good on you for trying.  Ignis   Apr-06-10 03:34 PM   #26 
     - They were coming to the aid of insurgents  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 04:32 PM   #39 
     - + brazillion  mrs_p   Apr-06-10 06:10 PM   #62 
     - + a brazillion. (oops - didn't mean to be an echo - posted in anger before I saw Mrs p's post.  kath   Apr-08-10 12:49 AM   #152 
     - There was no "fire fight," only a massacre  ArcticFox   Apr-06-10 04:00 PM   #34 
        - You can see the weapons with your own eyes  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 04:29 PM   #35 
           - You can see an AK47. Every single person in that country owns an AK47  no limit   Apr-06-10 05:08 PM   #46 
     - +1  leftstreet   Apr-06-10 03:16 PM   #16 
     - Hear hear  lumpy   Apr-06-10 03:21 PM   #21 
     - "makeshift ambulance"  paulsby   Apr-06-10 03:39 PM   #29 
     - I saw makeshift ambulance because that's exactly what it was  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:48 PM   #33 
     - I appreciate someone else that wants to deal in facts  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 04:33 PM   #40 
     - that's how i roll nt  paulsby   Apr-06-10 05:05 PM   #43 
     - Do you have a dictionary infront of you? Look up ambulance. Then google what makeshift means  no limit   Apr-06-10 05:12 PM   #49 
     - Check your Source, it does NOT say who shot at them  happyslug   Apr-06-10 07:12 PM   #66 
     - they violated the rules of engagement  TorchTheWitch   Apr-06-10 10:28 PM   #128 
     - + 1000000000000000000000  golddigger   Apr-07-10 06:45 AM   #131 
  - This is truly goddawful. Ed Schultz was doing so well during the Health Care discussions.  Judi Lynn   Apr-06-10 03:09 PM   #6 
  - Another casualty of Shuster's "suspension"  tridim   Apr-06-10 03:12 PM   #10 
  - Oh so now you realize that MSNBC is corporate news too?  Uzybone   Apr-06-10 03:13 PM   #12 
  - I knew this for a long time. But I expected people like Shultz to have some integrity  no limit   Apr-06-10 03:14 PM   #13 
  - is this how your logic works?  paulsby   Apr-06-10 03:41 PM   #30 
     - You don't even know what I think of Eds' position.  Uzybone   Apr-06-10 03:46 PM   #31 
     - So you are saying the story that was on during Ed's show was fair  no limit   Apr-06-10 05:16 PM   #50 
        - no, i'm not saying that  paulsby   Apr-06-10 07:35 PM   #86 
           - That's exactly what you said. You excused what he did by saying it was his opinion  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:37 PM   #87 
              - no, it's not what i said  paulsby   Apr-06-10 07:40 PM   #91 
  - now that is fucking sad.  Mari333   Apr-06-10 03:17 PM   #17 
  - for me, it is the point at which their integrity meets the litmus test: WAR CRIMES  G_j   Apr-06-10 08:51 PM   #122 
  - This story was not touched by either..  disillusioned73   Apr-06-10 03:21 PM   #19 
  - They probably saw this  NJmaverick   Apr-06-10 04:31 PM   #37 
  - They don't always cover every story right away.  Berry Cool   Apr-06-10 05:50 PM   #53 
     - You don't think this is an important story?  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:25 PM   #75 
        - You are correct....  disillusioned73   Apr-07-10 08:12 AM   #133 
  - "No one has discredited American liberalism more than liberals themselves"  Better Believe It   Apr-06-10 03:32 PM   #25 
  - still peddling hedges latest hysterical horseshit BBI?  dionysus   Apr-07-10 10:06 AM   #137 
  - Schultz was a Republican and is new to the movement.  upi402   Apr-06-10 03:35 PM   #27 
  - So is Arianna H.  KonaKane   Apr-06-10 05:09 PM   #47 
  - To be fair Jon Stewert had a point  no limit   Apr-06-10 05:30 PM   #52 
  - Ed Schultz works for General Electric  Cali_Democrat   Apr-06-10 03:46 PM   #32 
  - you got it.  Mari333   Apr-06-10 05:05 PM   #44 
  - are KO and maddow corporate GE tools as well?  dionysus   Apr-07-10 10:07 AM   #138 
  - Ed Schultz has never impressed me as a real liberal  KonaKane   Apr-06-10 04:31 PM   #38 
  - He never was.. he was a conservative who couldn't compete with Rushbo  walldude   Apr-06-10 06:06 PM   #59 
     - I never could stomach Ed  titoresque   Apr-06-10 10:38 PM   #130 
  - It wasn't an ambulance...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 04:53 PM   #41 
  - Yes, this was a makeshift ambulance. Look it up in the dictionary  no limit   Apr-06-10 05:11 PM   #48 
  - No...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:12 PM   #65 
     - ambulance /'mbjʊləns/ - An ambulance is a vehicle for taking people to and from hospital  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:20 PM   #71 
        - So if it was on a private road...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:33 PM   #82 
           - I said makeshift. My definition is dead on. You are trying to distract from the real issue  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:34 PM   #83 
              - Well, you are the one trying to distract from the facts.  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:49 PM   #98 
                 - You are making stuff up. The van posed absolutely no threat, the pilots had no reason to believe  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:53 PM   #101 
                    - You don't get it...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:40 PM   #121 
                       - Yeah, Right. I Heard the Same Feeble Excuses A Few Decades Ago.  Paladin   Apr-06-10 08:58 PM   #125 
                          - Considering we have video of this...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 09:03 PM   #126 
  - "It wasn't an ambulance."  EFerrari   Apr-06-10 05:58 PM   #55 
  - It was just a random vehicle...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:14 PM   #68 
     - - ambulance - An ambulance is a vehicle for taking people to and from hospital  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:21 PM   #72 
        - Well then I'm right...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:26 PM   #77 
           - What the hell are you talking about? I said "makeshift" did I not?  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:29 PM   #79 
              - You did one time, and not another...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:38 PM   #88 
                 - An unarmend vehicle that arrived many minutes later to help the injured  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:41 PM   #92 
                    - I'm not making excuses...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:51 PM   #100 
                       - What reason do you have to believe the people in that van were insurgents?  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:54 PM   #102 
                          - I don't...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:59 PM   #107 
                             - And that makes it ok? Killing a person unprovoked because you claim there was a reason  no limit   Apr-06-10 08:00 PM   #108 
                                - What's with the accusations?  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:13 PM   #111 
                                   - So what you are saying is Bush didn't lie, he believed what he said  no limit   Apr-06-10 08:15 PM   #114 
                                      - No I don't...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:28 PM   #118 
                                         - Why did they say the people in the van were picking up weapons when they had no evidance  no limit   Apr-06-10 08:32 PM   #119 
                                            - They assumed it....  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:51 PM   #123 
  - It certainly was an ambulance.  KonaKane   Apr-06-10 06:08 PM   #61 
     - Really?  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:24 PM   #74 
        - Making a lot of assumptions you have no evidance for. Why?  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:27 PM   #78 
           - I didn't dismiss any of those facts in my posts...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:45 PM   #94 
              - It's the best you can do? You are making stupid excuses  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:49 PM   #97 
                 - I said I was guessing...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 07:56 PM   #105 
                    - What was the reason? Enlighten me  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:58 PM   #106 
                       - Did you watch the video?  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:03 PM   #109 
                       - Yes, I watched the video (more than once). And they never picked up any weapons. That was a lie  no limit   Apr-06-10 08:06 PM   #110 
                          - I never said they did...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:19 PM   #116 
                             - They made it up. That's what it boils down to  no limit   Apr-06-10 08:23 PM   #117 
                                - I'm not making excuses...  MellowDem   Apr-06-10 08:36 PM   #120 
                                   - Yes, I have evidance for my assertion. They never picked up any weapons  no limit   Apr-07-10 07:21 AM   #132 
                                      - I agree with you...  MellowDem   Apr-07-10 10:09 AM   #139 
                                         - No I don't know what the pilots were thinking, that's not a defense  no limit   Apr-07-10 10:14 AM   #141 
                       - could be they thought they were firing on insurgents, and they were wrong. it's a tragedy  dionysus   Apr-07-10 10:11 AM   #140 
                          - We have video of exactly what happened. They had no reason to be threatened  no limit   Apr-07-10 11:58 AM   #143 
  - yes, probably no hope left..  DCBob   Apr-06-10 05:01 PM   #42 
  - I have to say  matt819   Apr-06-10 05:28 PM   #51 
  - Me too. The conspiracy theories are just as bad.  Berry Cool   Apr-06-10 05:53 PM   #54 
  - There's only about 3 to 4 that see nothing wrong with the video.  trumad   Apr-06-10 06:04 PM   #58 
  - Maybe this is far fetched...  happy_liberal   Apr-06-10 05:59 PM   #56 
  - What's worse is, nobody seems to care that.  chrisa   Apr-06-10 06:03 PM   #57 
  - Maybe Ed Schultz was more interested in covering current events happening in this country  4lbs   Apr-06-10 06:07 PM   #60 
  - as much as I disdain cable are correct  Uzybone   Apr-06-10 06:42 PM   #64 
  - Except that he did report on this story. Yet his reporting was dishonest  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:39 PM   #89 
  - "The greatest purveyor of violence in the world is my own govt - I can not be silent" MLK, Jr  grahamhgreen   Apr-06-10 06:38 PM   #63 
  - Maybe it's not Ed Shultz toeing the corporate line.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 07:14 PM   #67 
  - Self Delete  whatchamacallit   Apr-06-10 07:17 PM   #70 
  - Then why not mention the children and the van?  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:23 PM   #73 
  - I don't know. You'll have to ask him.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 07:25 PM   #76 
     - What a cop out.You wanna bet if I posted it on twitter or sent an email I would never get a response  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:30 PM   #81 
        - You don't know that. He might.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 07:34 PM   #84 
           - If you want me to waste my time I will, I'll write. But if he doesn't write me back?  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:35 PM   #85 
              - Why should I promise you anything on whether Schulz does anything?  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 07:39 PM   #90 
                 - I didn't think I was the only one that wanted this information. Seems really important.  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:44 PM   #93 
                    - You seem intent on associating me with Ed's lack of response.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 07:48 PM   #96 
                       - Thats a bunch of bullshit. Im not blaming you for ed's lack of repsonse  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:51 PM   #99 
                          - I have changed the language. It was too strong.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 07:54 PM   #103 
                             - But the fact you believe he will actually respond is insane to me  no limit   Apr-06-10 07:56 PM   #104 
                                - I will not make you any promises or guarantees based on his actions.  Bolo Boffin   Apr-06-10 08:14 PM   #113 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-06-10 08:17 PM   #115 
  - Ah yes, a tragic mistake all too often in war  Oilwellian   Apr-07-10 10:00 AM   #135 
  - Hey, Ed's hit the big-time. You don't think they give away TeeVee shows to anybody  Greyhound   Apr-06-10 07:17 PM   #69 
  - Have Keith or Rachel covered this?  senseandsensibility   Apr-06-10 07:30 PM   #80 
  - MSNBComcast  TexasObserver   Apr-06-10 07:47 PM   #95 
  - he did an overnight 180 on the medical insurance bailout too.  branders seine   Apr-06-10 08:14 PM   #112 
  - That's when I stopped listening to him.  The Gunslinger   Apr-06-10 08:53 PM   #124 
  - he wasn't alone  branders seine   Apr-07-10 10:49 AM   #142 
     - And the Stephanie Miller Show as well  The Gunslinger   Apr-07-10 08:04 PM   #148 
  - That's when I stopped listening to him, too.  Maat   Apr-07-10 12:17 PM   #144 
     - I tuned out most of the 'mainstream progressive' media then.  branders seine   Apr-07-10 01:21 PM   #145 
        - Exactly.  Maat   Apr-07-10 11:58 PM   #149 
  - Nobody wants to offend Israel - the country we're REALLY fighting these wars for. nt  democrat2thecore   Apr-06-10 10:29 PM   #129 
  - Att Ed: Murdered Samaritan's 2 Children Speak Out  G_j   Apr-07-10 09:41 AM   #134 
  - The other day, Schultz was whitewashing Tiger . . . disgusting . . .  defendandprotect   Apr-07-10 01:31 PM   #147 
  - They cannot admit to war crimes, it would shatter so many peoples  Rex   Apr-08-10 12:03 AM   #150 

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